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Re: problems with cox.net accounts?

 

Hmmm...cox.net got redirected to cox.com. Could you just have the TLD wrong?

Bruce


Re: Transferring UK Group

 

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 01:02 pm, Andy wrote:
Does the automated transfer process have a way to translate underscores in the name to something else?
You have to create the new group before you can initiate a transfer, so this issue with acceptable characters should be encountered upon group creation and has no bearing on the transfer agent.

I suspect the underscore restriction has something to do with the subdomain addressing that one encounters in groups.io when creating subgroups. Y!G has no subgroups.

Bruce


Re: How long does it take to transfer

 

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Ok, I have sent my request via?/edittransfer?start=1 and will be waiting.

Thanks,
Ken Lum
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On 19 Mar 2018, at 1:12 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

The transfer itself does not take long, but there is a waiting list, so it won't be done immediately. As best I can tell, groups are being transferred in order of request. Last I heard the queue was running around 2-3 days...AFTER you accept the transfer agent as a group Moderator and send notification that you're ready.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Re: Can you move messages but not members?

 

Tammi,

We are preparing our yahoogroup before we make the move. Our admin is wondering if we can move messages but not members. Can we?

What Bruce said: yes but don't.

Instead see the topic starting at GMF #6176.

Shal


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Re: Transferring member emails and archived messages

 

Please read?/static/transfer?and we'll try to answer any questions you have afterward.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Re: How long does it take to transfer

 

The transfer itself does not take long, but there is a waiting list, so it won't be done immediately. As best I can tell, groups are being transferred in order of request. Last I heard the queue was running around 2-3 days...AFTER you accept the transfer agent as a group Moderator and send notification that you're ready.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Re: Transferring member emails and archived messages

 

Ken,

I have just established a new Group and want to transfer the archived messages and member emails from my old Yahoo Group to the new Groups.io group. Not sure how to do this.
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Start here: /static/transfer
Shal


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Re: Can you move messages but not members?

 

If the members aren't moved first, the messages cannot be linked to any existing member accounts, and will instead be linked to the group owner. Generally speaking it's unlikely that's what your group members will want.

The same goes for files and photos and all other group content.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Re: LInks

 

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 12:37 pm, ray_r.rm wrote:
Can I add them to the Description area?
Yes.

And will other links in a message appear as clickable?
That depends on your group settings and also on he individual user settings. See Admin->Settings->Message Formatting.

Bruce


Re: Disappearing highlighting

 

There are some group and member settings that might bear on this. Hopefully others have played with these settings enough that they know more about what they do than I currently do.

Group settings...check Admin->Settings->Message Formatting. Normalize HTML emails will strip colors and such. Force HTML emails will make sure it's sent out as HTML but this might not be too friendly to some email clients. Leaving both unclicked should forward whatever is received, at least to those receiving Individual Messages (more on that below). Plain text only will strip all formatting.?Pick your poison.

Now click on the "Subscription" tab for your individual preferences, which contains personalized settings. "Individual emails" should receive whatever the group settings recommend. I believe the full featured digest setting is kinda like "normalize HTML emails" in that it will preserve fonts and size but strip colors, CSS, etc. Plain digest is [probably] like plain text only. I don't know about the daily summary.

The good thing about some of these plain text formats is that they contain no active hyperlinks and are thus less likely to be flagged as malicious/spam. What to do depends on what you want it to do, which was not explicit in your inquiry.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Re: Transferring UK Group

 

Hmm...

Underscores are OK in Yahoo!Group names.

Underscores are NOT OK in Groups.io group names.? Bummer.

I guess that's why you got the error message?? Does the automated transfer process have a way to translate underscores in the name to something else?

Regards,
Andy


Re: problems with cox.net accounts?

 

A web search of cox.net and whitelist turned up this hit:



I hope this helps...if not, further search of their help area might.

Bruce


LInks

 

How can I create clickable links on the Home page, or equivalent, to advertise my other Group(s)
Few people wound ever find them in the Database section.
Can I add them to the Description area?

And will other links in a message appear as clickable?

Thanks,
Richard


Re: SPF, Groups.io and Office365 Exchange Online #split

 

Lawrence,

Is it worth those of us who have control over our domains, have SPF set up for our mail hosts,

I think that is always worthwhile. I'm a little surprised that your mail ever reaches anyone's inbox if your domain's DNS entries don't have SPF records listing your mail server(s). If you are contracting with a provider for custom domain email service they probably took care of this for you.
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and who send a fair amount of mail via adding an SPF include record for ?

This I don't think is needed nor a good idea.

Groups.io publishes SPF records for its outbound servers, and it is the "envelope from" that inbound services ought to be testing against. That is, SPF applies to the actual sender (the connecting server) not to the domain in the header From field.

Just worrying that at some point emails will start being bounced, junked or blocked.?

That may happen as a result of DMARC testing - which has the added requirement that the header From field's domain "align with" (match) the envelope from's. That's been a major bug-a-boo with email list services. Groups.io has a work-around for the DMARC problem, which you will notice in action on the From addresses of messages from certain email services (including Yahoo Mail and AOL most prominently): the addresses are re-written so that they are (header) From Groups.io as well as being envelope From Groups.io. This was necessary because those outbound services specify a DMARC policy of "reject".

Posting here as searching the Help Center for SPF returns zero results, and newest comments on SPF in here seem to be quite a while ago.?

SPF is really an infrastructure mechanism that most email users need never know or care about. But mail server admins definitely need to know about.

Shal


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Can you move messages but not members?

 

We are preparing our yahoogroup before we make the move. Our admin is wondering if we can move messages but not members. Can we? ?Thanks so much. Tammi


Re: Truncated Email Addresses #issue

J_Catlady
 

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:48 am, Marina wrote:
if I read posts via mail, links are correctly displayed.
If I read posts online they are truncated (not just in preview, I mean the actual message).
This would be consistent with a setting of "mask all email addresses in the web archive." Could you check that setting again?
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Transferring member emails and archived messages

 

I have just established a new Group and want to transfer the archived messages and member emails from my old Yahoo Group to the new Groups.io group. Not sure how to do this. Maybe can point me to any instructions on the website or send instructions on how to do this to my email. Thanks for your help.

Ken Lum
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Re: Truncated Email Addresses #issue

J_Catlady
 

Didn't happen in the test I ran. I think you have the wrong setting checked for "mask email addresses in the archive."

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Marina <moderatore@...> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 10:24 am, J_Catlady wrote:

> I just tested this and I think there's a small bug. Mark evidently forgot to
> unmask email addresses in the message previews. They ARE unmasked in the
> actual message archive.

The strange thing is:
if I read posts via mail, links are correctly displayed.
If I read posts online they are truncated (not just in preview, I mean the actual message).

Marina








Re: bouncing

 

Hi Marina & All,

It isn't just Groups IO mail that is bouncing. I have a gmail account that forwards to my Yahoo account. Yahoo was bouncing some of them for "554 5.7.9 Message not accepted for policy reasons."

I was able to contact some of my bouncing members by going to the Yahoo group and sending a "Special Notice" to all members with a list of those that are bouncing. I gave my gmail address and 3 of them have responded and have reset their bounces. I've had no new bounces since Mar 17.

I wonder if this is linked to a Yahoo update of their spam filters. Since I've used my Yahoo address for groups, my level of spam has increased to the point that I was getting 50 to 100/day. I figure it was due to group members having me in their address books and then getting hacked. For the last several days, the spam has dropped to 5 to 10/day.

Paul, Ohio, USA

On Monday, March 19, 2018, 2:13:57 PM EDT, Marina <moderatore@...> wrote:

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 10:09 am, Shal Farley wrote:
> If they log on to Groups.io while their address is bouncing they'll see a
> red banner at the top of every page telling them that their address is
> bouncing. I don't remember for certain at the moment but I think in that
> condition they are not allowed to access members-only content until they
> unbounce.

So, they wouldn't even be able to read group posts online.

> As I said earlier, for those that went bouncing immediately after being
> copied in from a Yahoo Group that's probably fine.
> But for those that went bouncing more recently it is possible that Yahoo
> Mail will cure its glitches and those members you could send them an ad-hoc
> bounce probe to see if they are able to unbounce themselves.

I'm not sure at what time they went bouncing. I sent a bulk bounce probe some days ago, but they are all still there with a red B. Actually, three new members joined the bouncing group.

Marina


Re: A few questions about transferring a group

Mike Conder
 

I did the same thing in announcing about moving a group, it worked well with one hitch:? I had 1250 members, and my gmail account limited me to 500 or 1000 emails/day!? So it took a few days t tell everyone but that didn't impact the actual move.

You do have to have access to the Yahoo email addresses, which most yahoo moderators should have.

Mike Conder