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Re: ERROR message: "That email address is already registered" #alias

 

Vern,

QUESTION #1: Why won't it let me define an alias to the
"me4bbb@..." email address (in my "me4aaa@..." account)?
Sounds like a good question to me. I guess because me4aaa and me4bbb could in principle both be subscribed to the same group, and then there would be an ambiguity as to which subscription's Posting Privileges to apply. That could be resolved by giving precedence always to the direct subscription over any aliases.

Which question brings up the related one: are you allowed to make an alias to me4ccc in me4bbb. And if so, what then happens to messages sent via me4ccc if both me4aaa and me4bbb have a subscription to that group?

13. I guess that I might be able to re-login as "me4bbb@...", and
re-JOIN the*"[email protected]
If while logged into me4bbb you unsubscribe from [email protected] then I think you may be allowed to use me4bbb as an alias. That's kind of reading between the lines and squinting here:


However:

QUESTION #2: Is there a better ... way to allow me to send emails
from *ANY* of my email addresses, and have them be recognized by
either of my subscribed GROUPS.IO groups?
Not that I know of. Any two, yes, via Alias, but not a larger number (I don't think you can have more than one Alias per account). The alias feature really wasn't intended for your use case.

Mark has stated an intention to "do something better" for managing multiple email addresses, but just what that that might be, or when it might happen I can't guess.

For now, it is far simpler to run all of your active subscriptions from a single email address.

QUESTION #3: What happens when the owner of a Yahoo group (I
belong to) referencing "me4ccc@..." transfers it to GROUPS.IO?
I think the transfer itself works fine. I don't think that the fact that me4ccc is used as an alias for other accounts will bollix anything.

However, it once again leaves you in the situation of having one group under a different login account than the others. And given that there is currently no means to merge two accounts, nor to move subscriptions from one account to another, you can only resolve it by re-subscribing to the group under the preferred address.

Which abandons your content in that group under the me4ccc account. Not good. One way to forestall that would be to consolidate your Y!Group memberships to a single email address while you still can (and before any more of your groups transfer).

I was kind of hoping that subscription moving and/or account merging would get implemented before a major influx of Yahoo Groups - precisely for this reason. Oh well.

Shal


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ERROR message: "That email address is already registered" #alias

 

Regarding ERROR message: "That email address is already registered", received when trying to define alias email address for account.

BACKGROUND:? I have/had memberships in several Yahoo Groups.? Some of these Yahoo groups reference one of my email addresses, some Yahoo groups reference a different email address, and some even reference a third Email address.? But all of these Yahoo Groups referenced me as a single, common Yahoo-ID; so prior to recent migrations to GROUPS.IO, I could login as one Yahoo-ID to review and/or moderate any of these Yahoo groups.?? In reality, I have membership in over a hundred Yahoo Groups; and own or moderate several.

SAMPLE SCENARIO (to illustrate my concern with simplified group and email addresses):?
  1. Yahoo group "aaa" references my Email address "me4aaa@...".
  2. Yahoo group "bbb" references my Email address "me4bbb@...".
  3. Yahoo group "ccc" references my Email address "me4ccc@...".
  4. The owner of "aaa" transfers it to GROUPS.IO, automatically creating an "me4aaa@..." account for me.?
  5. The owner of "bbb" transfers it to GROUPS.IO, automatically creating an "me4bbb@..." account for me.?
  6. Due to the actions of the group owners, I now have two separate GROUPS.IO accounts; each subscribed to one of the transferred Yahoo groups.
  7. I login as "me4aaa@...", and can see the "aaa" group; and can send messages to it from "me4aaa@...".
  8. I login as "me4bbb@...", and can see the "bbb" group; and can send messages to it from "me4bbb@...".
  9. I would like to be able to post messages to "aaa" (for example) from ANY of my three email addresses.?
  10. So, I login as "me4aaa@...",...
  11. If I try to create an alias to "me4ccc@...", it works just fine; allowing me to post messages to "aaa" from either?"me4aaa@..." or "me4ccc@...".
  12. If I try to create an alias to "me4bbb@...", I get an ERROR message (i.e., "That email address is already registered").

    QUESTION #1:? Why won't it let me define an alias to the "me4bbb@..." email address (in my "me4aaa@..." account)?? Since I thought that the purpose of aliases was to allow other inbound Email address to be recognized by the group; I don't see why (already registered) email addresses are blocked.? Is this to protect GROUPS.IO from some sort of a security vulnerability that I am unaware of?? ?PLEASE EXPLAIN???

  13. I guess that I might be able to re-login as "me4bbb@...", and re-JOIN the "[email protected]" group from that account; but that seems like a lot of work and wasteful, because (in the limiting case), I would need to have multiple memberships in nearly all of the groups I belong to.

    QUESTION #2:? Is there a better (e.g., more-direct and/or non-wasteful,...) way to allow me to send emails from ANY of my email addresses, and have them be recognized by either of my subscribed GROUPS.IO groups?

    QUESTION #3:? What happens when the owner of a Yahoo group (I belong to) referencing "me4ccc@..." transfers it to GROUPS.IO?

Respectfully,

... a new user


Re: bouncing

 

Margaret,

How do I know if any of my group members are bouncing without looking at each member entry?
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Select the Bouncing list on your group's Members page.



That will give you a list of just the Bouncing and Bounced members.

Shal


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Re: bouncing

 

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 06:01 pm, A and M Parker wrote:
How do I know if any of my group members are bouncing without looking at each member entry?

Go to Admin > Members, click on the top left drop down box and select Bouncing to see only the bouncing members.? You can then click on any member line any place except the check box to see their subscription and do more in depth analysis if you want.

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Re: bouncing

 

How do I know if any of my group members are bouncing without looking at each member entry?

Margaret P


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Re: Transferring a yahoo group in stages? #transfer

 

Jeff,

So if we do all but the last step of the transfer, how do we initiate the e-mail to all the users with the info on how to setup their account on ? Do I just run the transfer process again and simply just choose the last option?

I don't know if that would work. Being a separate transfer it might send only to the zero members copied in that round. Unless the mechanism keeps track of prior transfers between the same group pairs. Unless someone here has actually tried it, you may have to ask [email protected] what would happen.

I would say just post a special notice in either or both groups, and include the info you want. The only thing "special" about the content of the You have been added email is that it contains an opt-out link for those who don't want to be in the Groups.io group.

A difference is who receives it. That notice, and your group's Welcome Member Notice would go out to all of the copied members (but only the copied members) regardless of Email Delivery, something that's not quite true of a Special Notice. Also, a Special Notice goes into the group's Messages archive, whereas neither the You've been added nor the Welcome do.

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Re: My own messages don't generate an email to me

 

Never mind. They showed up an hour and a half later. Since I had never seen that before on Groups.io, I thought maybe it was some feature I hadn't figured out. Grio works so well that when something goes awry, it seems so unusual I panic.?

Breathe.. breathe..


Re: Simple question - is possible to print the Database Tables?

Michael Rickey (AF6FB)
 

I'm new to Groups.io and was just starting to look at the database capability. It would be nice to have a "Printable View" of the database. A view that removes the left nav and database controls. It would just print the column names and the data in a nicely formatted manner.

I see there is an Export option. This gives me a CSV format that I could bring into Excel/Google Sheets and use however I'd like. This is good enough for me.

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Re: Transferring a yahoo group in stages? #transfer

 

That makes sense about the membership needing to be there to link to the old messages.? So if we do all but the last step of the transfer, how do we initiate the e-mail to all the users with the info on how to setup their account on groups.io? Do I just run the transfer process again and simply just choose the last option? Sorry. Just trying to make sense of it all.?

Thanks,
Jeff


My own messages don't generate an email to me

 

So how does that work? I don't care, as a.) I know what I wrote, and b.) the activity log and message pages show the reply to an original post I made were posted. But in using my email client to answer some other mail, it occurred to me that I hadn't seen inbound mail from our group in reference to what I posted. The two replies, one was sent by email and the other was made from the web page, if it makes any difference.

Is there normally a delay in sending out emails when messages are posted? Is there an abnormal delay right now? It's been 45 minutes since the first post and normally I get the email with my own postings on the next refresh of my email client (which I have set to 1 minute updates). I haven't seen a delay before in the month and a half since we created the group on Grio, but it was quite common on Brand Y. Because come to think of it, I haven't seen any messages from anyone else in the group. Of course, it appears no one else has posted since I sent my last two.

Dave


Re: Simple question - is possible to print the Database Tables?

 

What constitutes a "downloadable file" depends on browser settings and available browser add-ons. For example, I have the Acrobat Reader add-on installed in my browser so PDF files are displayed...if I didn't have that, it would download the file instead. It is also possible to right-click on anything that displays in the browser (like a CSV file) and do a "save as."

If there's some way to countermand such browser settings on the server side, I'm not aware of it. Even if possible, I think it would be best if groups.io didn't get into the habit of trying to guess what I *really* want to do with the hyperlinked files that I click on.

My $0.02,
Bruce


Re: Transferring a yahoo group in stages? #transfer

 

Thanks! I'll give it a shot. Appreciate the quick response.?

Jeff

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Jeff,

I'd like to move everything but the users over first to make sure it all looks ok, then move the users and send the e-mail as a final step. Can this be done?

Yes, but not quite the way you're thinking.
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My understanding is that the Membership must be copied first in order to preserve each member's ownership of their messages and other content. Otherwise you (the one initiating the transfer) ends up linked as the contributor for all the content.

That said, you can uncheck the bottom box of the Transfer form so that no "You've been added" message is sent to the copied members. You can also make your group's Welcome member notice inactive so that isn't sent either. I think that will result in your group being copied over with none of your Y!Group members notified.

Then at a time of your choosing you'd be able to announce the changeover.

Shal


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Re: Transferring a yahoo group in stages? #transfer

 

Jeff,

I'd like to move everything but the users over first to make sure it all looks ok, then move the users and send the e-mail as a final step. Can this be done?

Yes, but not quite the way you're thinking.
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My understanding is that the Membership must be copied first in order to preserve each member's ownership of their messages and other content. Otherwise you (the one initiating the transfer) ends up linked as the contributor for all the content.

That said, you can uncheck the bottom box of the Transfer form so that no "You've been added" message is sent to the copied members. You can also make your group's Welcome member notice inactive so that isn't sent either. I think that will result in your group being copied over with none of your Y!Group members notified.

Then at a time of your choosing you'd be able to announce the changeover.

Shal


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Transferring a yahoo group in stages? #transfer

 

We're in the process of transferring our yahoo group over and I was curious if it can be done in stages??
I'd like to move everything but the users over first to make sure it all looks ok, then move the users and send the e-mail as a final step. Can this be done?

Thanks.
Jeff


Re: Yahoo transfer/Invitations/Subscribe by email conflicts? #howtoguide #membership

 

Dougsinc,

Update: I just sent 586 invitations and got the response "Once your invites have been approved, they will be sent out. You will receive a notification when this happens." Wondering, what is the criteria and how long it might take...

Mark is watching out for spammers, I don't know if there's a specific criteria.

In the past it has only been a few hours, but with the high level of activity lately I'm not sure.

Shal


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Re: Yahoo transfer/Invitations/Subscribe by email conflicts? #howtoguide #membership

 

Well done!?
How did you get them to use the new address?


Re: Yahoo transfer/Invitations/Subscribe by email conflicts? #howtoguide #membership

 

Update: I just sent 586 invitations and got the response "Once your invites have been approved, they will be sent out. You will receive a notification when this happens." Wondering, what is the criteria and how long it might take...


Re: I want to change my owner's password to better protect my Visa Credit Card. I can't find a way to do this??

 

Dr. Denver Fox,

I want to change my owner's password ...? I can't find a way to do this??
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When logged in as said owner:
o? In the upper right of any Groups.io page click on your name.
o? From the drop-menu select Account.
o? In the Password field enter a new password.
o? Click the blue Change Password button.

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Re: I want to change my owner's password to better protect my Visa Credit Card. I can't find a way to do this??

 

While logged in, click on your name in the upper right corner, then select Account.? On the page that opens, fill in the new password and click Change Password.

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Re: Can someone explain to me... unsubscribed for marking a message as spam

 

The first part is self-explanatory - they (or their email service) marked a message as spam and cleared the spam folder.? The second is because when that happens an email is sent to them from groups.io explaining what happened, including a link to correct it.? There are several threads here recently about this very thing.

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