Some hashtags are defined by the system (and can't be changed as far as I know, though some can be 'tweaked' a bit.)? When you check the "Send Invite To Group" box for an Event (default is checked), the message will be sent with the cal-invite hashtag.? If you set up reminders for the Event, they'll be posted with the cal-reminder hashtag.? If you choose the "Send Notice To Group When Event Happens" box, it will be sent with the cal-notice hashtag.

On the group Settings page, in the Privacy section, there's a drop down box for "Hide Email Addresses In Archives".? The choices are "Mask all email addresses in the web archives." (default, I think) or "Do not mask email addresses in the archives."? I chose not to hide them when this was changed a few weeks ago, but they still weren't showing up.? I just did a test and it seems to work properly now, but I didn't test thoroughly.

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I have been transferring four YG lists to groups.io, three are complete, one in process.
On the last one transfer was completed the day after [email protected] was made a moderator
using the new transfer protocol.? Actually caught me by surprise as I was out of town and had written
a Welcome Letter message.

However I think the YG members opting out of groups.io subscribed to no e-mail on YG lists.? Evidently they
do not get special notices from YG lists and were not notified of the transfer.? I can't change YG lists
now that I am gone, but I did make Special Notices Only the default for No E-mails on my groups.io lists

ken

Go to Admin->Settings and scroll down to Privacy. Do you have "private archives" turned on? Even non-members can view the messages if this flag is not set.

If you have private archives turned on and pending members can read them anyway, this behavior is definitely surprising and should be reported as a bug ([email protected]).

Bruce

I don't get the hashtag thing either!

While I have everyone's attention (new to IO thus the perhaps silly question)..............

I'm asking what the story is with masking email addresses so any would-be trolls, spammers, address harvesters, and other bad guys can't see other members' email addresses? Is there a way to set the group to do that?

Thank you to any and all who might reply

Jan

Jan from NH
Keeping it simple one day at a time

There is a configuration option to avoid getting your own posts back from the group.

/static/help#dupemail

Personally, I like having something to confirm that the message actually went through and was posted to the group. Perhaps it's a relic of our YG days, when the odds of this actually happening were not good.

Bruce

If you have a real web site somewhere, you can also provide the URL.?

Bruce

Thanks all.

I'll discuss it with him at the next meeting and if he agrees I will try the Add On route as a one off.

Arno

When I have a new member -not approved yet- he/she can see all the messages of the group. Don't want that.? Want new members in a pendingmodus, how do I do that.
Thanks in advance.

Shal,

How many groups at groups.io have a subscriber base over 5,000 members? I belong to over 20 loosely related Yahoo Groups. I am the owner or moderator 8 of those related groups. Only the 1 that is currently in the transfer queue has over 3,500 members, 6 more are between 1000 and 3,500 members with the remaining 13 under 1,000 members.

I had my first experience with groups.io on 4 February when I started to research groups.io as an alternative to Yahoo groups. I read for three days everything I could about groups.io. The two features that struck my interest were was the ability to eliminate the "No Email" delivery and the ability to download the entire subscriber base. I did not know until the 24 February a message was sent from groups.io titled "You have been added to the GroupEmailAddress". I have not yet received such a message. This message would not have identified those with no longer an interest in our group but it would have at least the identification of those subscribers who no longer have a valid email address.

Note here when I did a test download of the membership data base I found that the header giving the number code for the type of email delivery did not match the identifier for some of the members. The range of the status is 0-3. I had no 3's as that is for no email. I did have a fair number of 4's. When I check those with a 4 against the same user information I had from Yahoo I found a 4 was really a subscriber who had elected "Digest" delivery.

In the almost 20 years our group has been associated with Yahoo we have sent out only three "Special Notices". I have been a moderator or one of the co-owners of the Yahoo Group in question for over 15 years.

We choose to eliminate the "No Email" not to antagonize those that only want the one way communication with the list but rather to cleanup our subscriber base. We have an message ready that we will be transmitting to all of our subscribers, under "Special Notice" that the transfer is complete. We have included that we no longer will accept the "No Email" delivery option and that those that had chosen the "No Email" delivery where converted to "Special Notice" delivery. We have included instructions on how to unsubscribe from the new group if they no longer desire to be a member for any personal reason.

We have no idea how many of our previous subscribers we will loose because they are on a bouncing email list. We have no idea how many of our "No Email' subscribers on the we will loose because they no longer have chosen "No Email" and no longer have a valid email address. We have no idea how many members will choose to unsubscribe because they have no longer have an interest in what our group has to offer. We just do not know.

The elimination of the "No Email" delivery may seem harsh but it has become a necessary means to rid the our group of those that no longer can be reached or no longer have an interest in our group activity.



Al

Is there a way to change the hashtag which the calendar appends automatically to each event?
I don't mean to use the same hashtags I set for the group posting, I'd like to have a separate hashtag #reminder just for the calendar.

I edited the original hashtag "cal-invite" to "reminder" after the event was displayed in the group, but I found out that the new hashtag did not work for subsequent events.
Two later events were marked with two different hashtags: #cal-reminder and #cal-notice.

Sorry for the dumb question, but I don't understand how it works.

Thank you for your help.
Marina

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 11:09 am, Patty Sliney wrote:

Marina, I'm not sure it's a "problem".? I think this is simply how Mark has
coded a search result to display (ie, "display first 120 characters in search
results from group description").? When I use the Search function, and search
using any old key word, all the search results display exactly the same as
you've described:? About 1 1/2 lines are displayed from each group's main
page description.?

Thank you, Patty. I didn't realize that the Search results was meant to display only a fixed characters description. Maybe because the text was abruptly truncated without any indication I thought it was a bug.

Marina

That's what I figured.? But I thought I'd check first just in case there was an easier way.

Thanks.

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At 2018-02-25 05:05 PM, Duane wrote:

"As a footnote to that, in recent years No Email was a recommended work-around for the frequent failures of the Unsubscribe mechanism. It was the best some members could do when they were done with the group."

Good idea.

Don

Al,

We, the co-owners, have elected to eliminate from the new
list at groups.io the “No Email” mail delivery option.

This is one of the oldest tug-of-wars I recall from the Yahoo Group mod groups - some moderators being outraged that members would choose No Email, and some members being outraged that a group moderator would dare to change their setting.

My personal philosophy is to leave those members to their own devices. They chose that setting and thereby chose the responsibility to check the group web pages (Conversations) periodically. Or not. Their problem, not mine. And the truth is that members who really don't want even Special Notices can always put a filter in their email service. So overriding their choice may be a Pyrrhic victory.

As a footnote to that, in recent years No Email was a recommended work-around for the frequent failures of the Unsubscribe mechanism. It was the best some members could do when they were done with the group. These members may account for a fair fraction of those that immediately unsubscribe from the Groups.io group after the transfer. The "You were added" message from the transfer agent, and the "Welcome" notice from the group moderators may be the first these members have heard from the group in years.

4) If the above item #3 takes place then I expect to see some of those
that were converted from “No Email” to “Special Notice” bouncing.

Whether or not that is true, probably. Those two other messages I mentioned are sent to all copied member addresses:

One is from Groups.io with the subject line "You have been added to GroupEmailAddress" - that one tells them the posting email address and the home page web address for the group, and provides an unsubscribe link. This is sent if you do not uncheck the box on the transfer form.

The other is the active Welcome notice, from the group's Member Notices page. The group owners/mods author that message.

5) If the above item #3 does not take place then I expect to see some
of those “Special Notice” subscribers bouncing after I send a “Special
Notice” to the entire membership announcing that the transfer from
Yahoo Groups to Groups.io is complete and that the Yahoo Group
activity has been terminated.

You don't have to make a Special Notice of this. You can create a Welcome notice that is tailored specifically to carry the information you wish to convey to the copied members, and make it "Active". It will go out to them when the copy completes. Then afterward make your normal Welcome notice active.

Unlike a Special Notice, Member Notices are sent regardless of the members email delivery choice. So this would reach them even if you didn't disable No Email.

I also saw about a 20% of the membership bouncing and almost all of
them had previously been subscribers having the “No Email” deliver
status.

Probably more of the members who couldn't unsubscribe due to Yahoo glitches.

Shal


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Loopy,

I know how to change the picture on the home page
but that's basically all.

That, plus the content of the Group Description section are the only parts of the home page over which you have direct control. Everything else is automatically generated.

In Settings, the Description is in the top section, General. Edit the content there and then scroll to the bottom to click the blue Update Group button.

Also in Settings, the Cover Photo has a tab of its own, click its button in the row of buttons at the top of the Settings page.

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Bruce, Judy,

You can also plan to have a number of members start to bounce emails
after the transfer completes, due either to dead email addresses among
your Yahoo records or recipient mail servers that for some reason
think mail coming from groups.io as spam.

If a message bounces it is not delivered - not even to spam. Or you could say it the other way: a message that was delivered to spam (or trash or anywhere) did not bounce - it was accepted.

But Bruce's point remains: some email services may outright reject messages from Groups.io because that service believes Groups.io to have a bad reputation, and not because the address is actually "no such user" or other error. And other members may use services (or settings within their service) which attempt to filter out spam by doing a "human test" - they hold your message and send you back some instructions to prove you're a human. These services won't work with Groups.io unless the member does something to allow group messages to be delivered.

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Shal,

Yes, a filter option would be suitable. I just tried a negated term in the Search box (to exclude the listing of posts containing that term) but that does not work. Check boxes for hashtags would be even better.

Drew

Victoria,

All the messages sent to the group appear twice. What can I do?

Do you mean they appear twice in your email inbox? Or appear twice in the group's Messages section?

And do you mean all messages, including those posted by other members? Or do you mean all of your own message posts?

If you mean your Inbox, and you mean your own messages, then have a look at the very bottom of a pair of them. Does one have the group footer and the other not?

If that's the case then the one without the group footer is a copy of the message you sent, while the one with the group footer is the copy sent back to you as a member of the group. Depending on your email interface that may be normal behavior.

Shal


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This pending member discovered they had COOKIES DISABLED and after going to their PC and completing the membership felt good about getting the Ipad and other Apple devices up to speed.

Thank you for the insight Shal, much appreciated as all leads helped.

David