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Re: replacing photos in an existing thread

 

I do not think you can replace an attachment to an existing post however, you as owner could delete just the attachment and edit the original post to say see reply with attachment, then reply to that post with the new attachment

The group would receive the reply with new attachment but you can explain the reason for that

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 06/05/2025 11:12, Barry via groups.io wrote:
Have been asked whether it is possible to replace a photo/attachment in an existing thread & outside of a private album. All I can see is to delete the thread completely, but by doing this any new thread/photo will no longer be in sequence. As an owner of the group - I do not think even I can do this ? barry
replacing photos in an existing thread

 

Have been asked whether it is possible to replace a photo/attachment in an existing thread & outside of a private album. All I can see is to delete the thread completely, but by doing this any new thread/photo will no longer be in sequence. As an owner of the group - I do not think even I can do this ? barry?
Re: Listing hashtags by frequency

 

On Sun, May 4, 2025 at 09:40 AM, Thomas Gruber wrote:
Are you willing to share the python script you mentioned?
Sorry for the delay, I've been away for a few days.? As Duane stated in #49258, the API has been updated to allow topic_count to be used as sort parameter.
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I've attached the following files:
  • a Python script which will list the most used hashtags in descending order
  • a sample of the output from the script showing the hashtags used here in the GroupManagersForum
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Things to note:
  • I am assuming people either have Python installed, know how to do it or can work it out. Other than a link to , further support is outside the scope of this group.
  • The script is supplied as is and I cannot provide customisations for different members.
  • The script does not make any updates to your group. It is read-only.
  • The script will check for values in environment variables GROUPSIO_EMAIL, GROUPSIO_PASSWORD and GROUPSIO_GROUPNAME. If they do not exist, you will be asked to supply values at run time.
  • Parameter values entered at run time may be echoed in the output log so be careful who you share that with.
  • To list hashtags in a main group, use the first part of the group posting address as the GROUPNAME e.g. GroupManagersForum
  • To list hashtags in a subgroup, use the format maingroupname+subgroupname e.g. beta+app
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I hope that helps.
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Regards
Andy
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GroupManagersForum_MostUsedHashtags.txt
GroupManagersForum_MostUsedHashtags.txt
Groupsio_ListMostUsedHashtags.py
Groupsio_ListMostUsedHashtags.py

Re: Preparing my first forum for subgroups in the future

 

Greetings Ward,

I have been running groups since back when Mark ha eGroups (before Yahoo Groups).? Over the last three decdes, I have operated many dozens of groups.? A couple of additional points from my experiences:?

- I use the main group as for when all members need to communicate, such as setting agendae for meetings, deciding meeting dates/times, and (most important for my groups) to have discussions that everyone can participate in.? I run the groups for a couple of committees:? Those who are members of the whole committee use the main group (as well as non-members sending us emails), and those who are members of a subcommittee or working group discussion the business of that group.? I have it set up so that members of the main committee cannot see messages in the subgroups of which they aren't members.?

- I use hyphens, rather than underscores for multi-word-names.? (I find the use of underscores highly annoying: Underscores require a modifier key to be pressed as well as the main key, and I can never remember which main key does underscores, whereas the hyphen doesn't require a modifier key and is easy to spot on the keyboard.? I find that people who use underscores tend to be more tech-savvy, which represents a challenge for those who are less tech-savvy.)? And due to the differences in the way text is selected by double- and triple-clicking on a Mac vs Windows (I'm on a Mac and the majority of members fo my groups seems o be on Macs), it's just easier not to have to remember those differences; hence, using the hyphen).? (YMMV.)?

Welcome to Groups.io!?

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From: "Jeremy Harrison via groups.io" <jeremygharrison@...>
To: "GroupManagersForum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2025 4:22:18 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Preparing my first forum for subgroups in the future
On Sun, May 4, 2025 at 02:54 PM, Malcolm Austen wrote:
Also important ...

Make sure it is clear that members of a subgroup have also to be members of the main (or whatever name you use) group.

Also, in case there are any privacy issues, be clear that an owner of the main group has full access to the content of all the subgroups, even if they are not a member of it.

My own preference is to make the main group an 'administrative' announcement-only group and then create a subgroup for discussions between members. Anyone in the main group can then be free to opt in or out of the discussion (sub)group.

best, Malcolm.

On 04 May 2025 14:05:04 (+01:00), Marilyn Owen via groups.io wrote:

> Most important, Ward, is to make sure there are at least 2 Owners of the main group.
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Malcolm Austen -- malcolm.austen@...
Agree with all this.
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A point I would make is that the top level 'main' group is a super-set of all the members of all the sub-groups: think who you would (or might) want to include (or not) - should it (just) be church 'members' (whatever that might mean for your church: ours has an 'electoral roll' to list them), or should it also include 'friends' - people who have some lesser link: infrequent worshippers, neighbours, hall users, etc. If it does, then (appropriate) sub-groups can include them.?
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How much you set up the main group to do is up to you (or maybe your church leaders): it need not 'do' any more than hold the overall membership (in groups.io sense) list, with perhaps an (infrequent) administrative announcement only role, with all the 'serious' stuff happening in the various sub-groups.
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Even if you just start with one small sub-group for your A/V team, be prepared for there to be many more - better that way than the opposite.
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The other thing I would say is to echo Christos's point, and read the groups.io manual thoroughly to have a good idea of how it works. Something you might want to do is set up your main, top-level group first, and then add a couple of test/dummy sub-groups so you can familiarise yourself with how it hangs together (you may want several spare e-mail addresses, too), before setting up anything for 'real'. You can delete them later (or not, as you wish)
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Jeremy?

Re: Preparing my first forum for subgroups in the future

 

Many thanks to Christos, Joseph, Dan, Francis, Marilyn, Malcolm, and Jeremy for your fabulous advice. ?I feel confident moving forward.
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-- Ward
Re: Preparing my first forum for subgroups in the future

 

On Sun, May 4, 2025 at 02:54 PM, Malcolm Austen wrote:
Also important ...

Make sure it is clear that members of a subgroup have also to be members of the main (or whatever name you use) group.

Also, in case there are any privacy issues, be clear that an owner of the main group has full access to the content of all the subgroups, even if they are not a member of it.

My own preference is to make the main group an 'administrative' announcement-only group and then create a subgroup for discussions between members. Anyone in the main group can then be free to opt in or out of the discussion (sub)group.

best, Malcolm.

On 04 May 2025 14:05:04 (+01:00), Marilyn Owen via groups.io wrote:

> Most important, Ward, is to make sure there are at least 2 Owners of the main group.
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Malcolm Austen -- malcolm.austen@...
Agree with all this.
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A point I would make is that the top level 'main' group is a super-set of all the members of all the sub-groups: think who you would (or might) want to include (or not) - should it (just) be church 'members' (whatever that might mean for your church: ours has an 'electoral roll' to list them), or should it also include 'friends' - people who have some lesser link: infrequent worshippers, neighbours, hall users, etc. If it does, then (appropriate) sub-groups can include them.?
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How much you set up the main group to do is up to you (or maybe your church leaders): it need not 'do' any more than hold the overall membership (in groups.io sense) list, with perhaps an (infrequent) administrative announcement only role, with all the 'serious' stuff happening in the various sub-groups.
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Even if you just start with one small sub-group for your A/V team, be prepared for there to be many more - better that way than the opposite.
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The other thing I would say is to echo Christos's point, and read the groups.io manual thoroughly to have a good idea of how it works. Something you might want to do is set up your main, top-level group first, and then add a couple of test/dummy sub-groups so you can familiarise yourself with how it hangs together (you may want several spare e-mail addresses, too), before setting up anything for 'real'. You can delete them later (or not, as you wish)
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Jeremy?

Re: Integrate subgroup into main group

 

Thankyou for your reply & for reminding me - could not remember that I had asked before - it was 4 years ago !! barry
Re: Integrate subgroup into main group

 

On Sun, May 4, 2025 at 11:47 AM, Barry wrote:
Is it possible to move all the content of a subgroup back into the main group (space being available that is) ?
Not easily. You would have to download all content and re-upload it to the main group. And ownership will then be in your name, not the person who originally uploaded/posted it.
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Messages cannot be moved at all.
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Generally, the situation is unchanged from the last time you asked this question.
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Regards,
Bruce
Integrate subgroup into main group

 

Is it possible to move all the content of a subgroup back into the main group (space being available that is) ? barry
Re: Preparing my first forum for subgroups in the future

 

Also important ...

Make sure it is clear that members of a subgroup have also to be members of the main (or whatever name you use) group.

Also, in case there are any privacy issues, be clear that an owner of the main group has full access to the content of all the subgroups, even if they are not a member of it.

My own preference is to make the main group an 'administrative' announcement-only group and then create a subgroup for discussions between members. Anyone in the main group can then be free to opt in or out of the discussion (sub)group.

best, Malcolm.

On 04 May 2025 14:05:04 (+01:00), Marilyn Owen via groups.io wrote:

Most important, Ward, is to make sure there are at least 2 Owners of the
main group.
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Malcolm Austen -- malcolm.austen@...
Re: Preparing my first forum for subgroups in the future

 

Most important, Ward, is to make sure there are at least 2 Owners of the main group.
Re: Listing hashtags by frequency

 

On Sun, May 4, 2025 at 03:40 AM, Thomas Gruber wrote:
I¡®m not sure the ?description¡° is used at all, it was always blank in the group where I tested this.
It is used in some cases.? There are a few on this group that have a description, for example #admin.
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual found in the Help Center.
Re: Listing hashtags by frequency

 

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Hi Andy,
Are you willing to share the python script you mentioned? I¡®m experimenting with the export files myself, a good occasion to start learning python. But there¡®s no better way than to study a working example I believe :-)
I found the following properties in the hashtags export file that may be interesting (not all needed if you really only want the number of entries):

id : numeric
object : "hashtag"
created : date format see below
name: textstring
description: textstring
topic_count: numeric
last_message_date : YYYY-MM-DDThh:mm:ss.nnnnnnnnn-hh:mm (time zone GMT+-) z.B. 2019-11-11T01:15:29.224905072-08:00

Topic_count is the number we need for sorting, the 2 dates may be used to find out if a hashtag has been in use for a while, or only during a very limited period. I¡®m not sure the ?description¡° is used at all, it was always blank in the group where I tested this.
Kind regards
Thomas

Am 30.04.2025 um 13:16 schrieb Andy Wedge via groups.io <andy_wedge@...>:

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On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 11:01 AM, Herbert Eppel wrote:
All I want is to list the group hashtags by frequency, beyond what's already available in the form of the top 10
FYI, I just created a Python script to return the list of hashtags associated with a group. The documentation indicates that you should be able to sort the results by a returned field name, in this case, topic_count, but does not appear to work. The results are always returned in alphabetical order based upon the lowercase version of the hashtag name, either ascending or descending as specified on the request.? I have raised this as a #bug in and will report feedback here when I get it.
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Regards
Andy
Re: Preparing my first forum for subgroups in the future

 

My two cents! I like to make sure that I create a cover photo that looks different from the main group. If it could be thematically linked to the subgroup topic, all the better. And of course, an icon for feed and for mobile display.?
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You wouldn't want someone to post online in the wrong group. And I would use real words for your subgroup name.?
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And you can even make categories for subgroups if you have several.
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Frances
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Help available from /helpcenterand GMF wiki.

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Re: Preparing my first forum for subgroups in the future

 

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Ward,

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I just had some questions along these lines ¨C creating Subgroups and membership; how to get/let people join, etc. Some of the other members of this forum were very helpful in informing me of ways to get things done.

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Once you¡¯ve got your Group and members entered:

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YOU create a Subgroup ¨C YOU name it e.g. ¡°Church_AV_Techs¡±. And/but at this point it has no members except you. Note: the new Subgroup will have its own ¡®cover page¡¯ and ¡®subscribe¡¯ address. Copy that ¡®subscribe¡¯ address.

You send an email to all members ¨C or a select list of hand-picked members ¨C and include that subscription link. Include discussion that points out ¡°If you do not want to join or participate in this Subgroup, do nothing.¡± That message will simply be ignored. And ¡°If you want to be a member of this Subgroup, click on the link and Join.¡± They click the subscribe to this Subgroup link and they become members of the Subgroup.

Then when sending out messages pertaining to THAT Subgroup, send them to that Subgroup address ¨C only those who ¡®joined the group¡¯ will get the messages and replies; those who did not join won¡¯t even know it¡¯s been sent.

And/but anyone who has interest in that Subgroup¡¯s activities can go into the Subgroup and view it (depending on security/access settings ¨C that you establish when you set it up); they can subscribe by applying for membership in that Subgroup.

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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> on behalf of "Ward Clark via groups.io" <ward@...>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, May 3, 2025 at 11:38
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [GMF] Preparing my first forum for subgroups in the future

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I've come to Groups.io forum to create a forum for the AV Team at my church. ?It's become clear that a successful AV forum will spur interest in forums for other church teams, each with its own subgroup.

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I'm now faced with this question: ?When I create the first subgroup, does the original group automatically become its own subgroup?

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With some help from ChatGPT, it appears that my first group will remain as-is and become the parent of all subgroups. ?So I'm planning to a church-wide parent group and create its first subgroup for the AV Team.

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Is that starting on the right foot?
Re: Preparing my first forum for subgroups in the future

 

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Hi ward, very simple answer. The main group that you just created, will stay the parent group. While in a group that you create within that group, will be a sub group. I hope that makes sense.

On May 3, 2025, at 1:46?PM, Ward Clark via groups.io <ward@...> wrote:

I've come to Groups.io forum to create a forum for the AV Team at my church. ?It's become clear that a successful AV forum will spur interest in forums for other church teams, each with its own subgroup.
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I'm now faced with this question: ?When I create the first subgroup, does the original group automatically become its own subgroup?
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With some help from ChatGPT, it appears that my first group will remain as-is and become the parent of all subgroups. ?So I'm planning to a church-wide parent group and create its first subgroup for the AV Team.
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Is that starting on the right foot?
Re: Preparing my first forum for subgroups in the future

 

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On 2025-05-03 14:46, Ward Clark via groups.io wrote:
With some help from ChatGPT, it appears that my first group will remain as-is and become the parent of all subgroups. ?

Correct, the "main" group (which created the original group) will always remain as is, aka the "master" group, or parent of all subgroups if any of those are created.? BTW after creating the fist subgroup, that main group's name is defaulted to "main" but it can be renamed to something else than that, depending on how you want to setup the whole thing.


So I'm planning to a church-wide parent group and create its first subgroup for the AV Team.
Is that starting on the right foot?

Yes, main group can be the "list" of all members, and each member can then choose what subgroup to belong to. You'd need to decide though how to setup the main group in terms of the default subscription, whether it'd be an announcement group only or allow discussion, etc, etc.

If you're not familiar with it, I'd refer more to the groups.io manuals instead of ChatGPT.

Cheers,
Christos
Preparing my first forum for subgroups in the future

 

I've come to Groups.io forum to create a forum for the AV Team at my church. ?It's become clear that a successful AV forum will spur interest in forums for other church teams, each with its own subgroup.
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I'm now faced with this question: ?When I create the first subgroup, does the original group automatically become its own subgroup?
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With some help from ChatGPT, it appears that my first group will remain as-is and become the parent of all subgroups. ?So I'm planning to a church-wide parent group and create its first subgroup for the AV Team.
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Is that starting on the right foot?
Re: Listing hashtags by frequency

 

On Sat, May 3, 2025 at 07:07 AM, Herbert Eppel wrote:
explain in plain English
Not really possible.? You have to write a program, say using Python as Andy did, then run it to get the results.
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual found in the Help Center.
Re: Listing hashtags by frequency

 

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Interesting, thank you.

Perhaps someone could explain in plain English how to list the hashtags by frequency for the group that prompted me to post my original message?

Herbert Eppel


On 03/05/2025 11:58, Duane via groups.io wrote:

On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 06:16 AM, Andy Wedge wrote:
The documentation indicates that you should be able to sort the results by a returned field name, in this case, topic_count, but does not appear to work.
For those interested, this .
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Duane
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