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Technical new member question
We have a Pending New Member with a gmail. com email address who has attempted to join a group I support as Moderator/Owner.? ?They have not confirmed account and their activity log says Non confirmed member attempted to send message (multiple times)including they tried to respond to the group's Pending Member letter. I understand that messages are not delivered until those steps are completed.?
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I am wondering if icloud relay proxy is impacting the groups.io new member messaging requirements process. I am not an Apple or a Safari user but my search shows it is a a privacy system within Safari that relays internet interactions to mask the user IP address .? Will this potential member have to disable proxy to join to confirm email address to groups.io and to respond to member questions?? Thanks for your help - this is beyond my technical expertise.??
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This indicator is prominent on the pending member's page?? ?ICLOUD_RELAY_PROX
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Re: link to subscribe
Hi, Leah,
I would just try going to the "join" URL for your current group name and seeing if it works. A slight complication: If you are already a member of the group your login cookie might be stored. In this case, if you go to the join link, it flashes up on the screen and then disappears. So try it from an incognito (anonymous) browser window. All you have to look for is whether the window with the text field comes up. ?
I hope this helps!
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 12:08?PM Leah Solat via <lsolat=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: link to subscribe
Hi Lea,
You can find the group|s URL by opening (while in your group as owner) Admin/Preferences/Promote There in the top right hand corner you see the box Invite your friends And at the bottom of that box you see the URL of the group. I assume if you add /join You have the URL for joining the group. Kind regards Thomas |
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Re: link to subscribe
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýPeter, because we changed the name of the group (before there were any members other than owner), some of the URLs were still for the old name and I had to change them¡eg, in the welome msg. Do you know how I can find out if the same is true for the join URL and, if so, how I can correct it? Thanks Leah ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter S. Shenkin via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2025 11:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GMF] link to subscribe ? Hi, Leah,? ? The URL is already there, at "/g/GROUPNAME/join", where GROUPNAME is your group name. ? On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 11:04?AM Leah Solat via <lsolat=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: link to subscribe
Thanks,?Duane. Clearly, the display name has to be optional. In my situation, the group I want to use this for is a pure announcement group, so only moderators (in this case, only I, as the owner) can post. So the system will not accept postings from vanilla members. Small caveat: if a member responds to one of my postings, the response goes only to me and my return response to the member goes only to the member. But then does process the email in this manner. So possibly, an empty display name would be populated by such a member response. However, it's rare that I get such responses.? -P. On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 6:50?AM Duane via <txpigeon=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: link to subscribe
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 05:22 AM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:
The way I would summarize your (helpful) answer is that every group comes with a URL named?/g/GROUPNAME/join. You can make this available in any website or email by simply creating a clickable link to that URL. On clicking the link the?user will be taken to a page that allows entry of an email address. Not always.?
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If someone is already logged in to groups. io, the /join URL redirects to the group home page, at which point they will have to click the "Join This Group" button (or "Apply for Membership," if the group is Restricted).
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The reason? The entire purpose of the /join page is to prompt for an email address. If you're logged in then the system knows your email address and does not need you to enter it again.
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Re: link to subscribe
For me, the whole point?of using a link like this is that the owner doesn't have to do anything. The owner doesn't have have to send out an invitation or even do a direct add. So, for?me, the?facility would be more useful if the person who clicks the link could add a display name as part of the process.? -P. On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 11:06?AM Pete Cook via <peterscottcook=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: link to subscribe
Hi, Leah,?
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The URL is already there, at "/g/GROUPNAME/join", where GROUPNAME is your group name.
If this isn't what you were trying to ask, please clarify. -P. ?
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 11:04?AM Leah Solat via <lsolat=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: link to subscribe
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThanks, Peter. Where do I find that URL? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter S. Shenkin via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2025 12:31 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GMF] link to subscribe ? Thanks Frances. ? The way I would summarize your (helpful) answer is that every group comes with a URL named?/g/GROUPNAME/join. You can make this available in any website or email by simply creating a clickable link to that URL. On clicking the link the?user will be taken to a page that allows entry of an email address. ? -P. ? ? ? On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 11:06?AM ro-esp via <ro-esp=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: link to subscribe
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýCan the owner/administrator add/change display and/or user names? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Duane via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2025 6:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GMF] link to subscribe ? On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 04:22 AM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:
Display names and User names are optional.? Some groups require one or both, while others prohibit them.? The site will try to fill in the Display name using email header information the first time a message is sent.? As long as adding one is still optional, it may be possible to ask for one or use the format you mentioned. ? Duane -- Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual found in the Help Center. |
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Re: link to subscribe
On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 04:22 AM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:
You can enter an email address but there are no fields to add a screen name or first and last name. Display names and User names are optional.? Some groups require one or both, while others prohibit them.? The site will try to fill in the Display name using email header information the first time a message is sent.? As long as adding one is still optional, it may be possible to ask for one or use the format you mentioned.
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual found in the Help Center. |
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Re: link to subscribe
Thanks Frances. The way I would summarize your (helpful) answer is that every group comes with a URL named?/g/GROUPNAME/join. You can make this available in any website or email by simply creating a clickable link to that URL. On clicking the link the?user will be taken to a page that allows entry of an email address. For example, anyone could insert such a link on the home-page description for their group. An example can be found on the home page for this group. I do have a problem with this facility, though. You can enter an email address but there are no fields to add a screen name or first and last name. The text field does not accept a line of the form "Foo Bar <foo@...>" (without quotes, of course). I will submit an RFE for this to the beta group. -P. On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 11:06?AM ro-esp via <ro-esp=[email protected]> wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 03:03 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote: |
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Re: Is there a way to re-send a poll
On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 06:49 PM, Kristin Semmelmeyer wrote:
I run a group with some not-computer-savvy seniors in it. I just wanted to say that I have had people just respond the usual way - in an email - rather than using the poll widget.
If that happens for just a few, it isn't a big deal, in my opinion.?
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Re: Is there a way to re-send a poll
On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 05:49 PM, Kristin Semmelmeyer wrote:
Is there a way I can send the poll link out to people again (without starting over with the poll)? Not easily.? I think the closest you could get would be to send them a link to the message.? (They have to go online to vote anyway, so this would be practice for that.)
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Re: Is there a way to re-send a poll
On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 06:49 PM, Kristin Semmelmeyer wrote:
I run a group with some not-computer-savvy seniors in it. ?I sent out a poll but some said they didn't see it. ?Is there a way I can send the poll link out to people again (without starting over with the poll)? ?
Here's one way.
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Can you see it in messages archive on your site??
You can open that post and click on the # number to get the link URL.
Then send that out again.?
It keeps the previous votes.?
The group members who have voted will have the option of changing their votes.
Others can vote.
The issue is that they must click through to the group homepage to vote.? Here is the Help page for members on voting.
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You might remind them about using Email Me A Link To Login if they don't have a password set.
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Julie in MD (Maryland)
Peter S. Shenkin
Thomas Gruber
Leah Solat
Bruce
Pete Cook
Duane
Frances
Kristin Semmelmeyer