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Joining Anomaly

 

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Hi Folks,

I moderate a group which I don't own, and have the account set up so anyone wanting to join requires approval, which comes through me and at least one other person.

I recently received notification that 'so and so' has joined your group... but I never received an approval request prior to his joining.? I've checked with the others who also have admin privileges in this group, and they didn't get a join request notification either.

Looked a little more closely and found this:



I'm guessing *someone* issued a direct invitation to join the group.? I have a couple of questions:? first, why aren't group moderators pulled "into the loop" when a someone issues a direct invite, or when the invitee accepts that invitation and becomes a member?? Second, why is the person who issued the invitation not indicated?? I'm in a situation where I'm charged with keeping on top of things with this group, and I find myself with no idea of how this person obtained admission to the group.

I've checked all the settings for this group (the ones that are available to me, at least), and didn't see anything pertaining to permissions to directly invite someone to join the group, or notifying group moderators of this fact.? I DO see that only group owners and/or moderators can issue join invitations, so at least I don't have to worry that group members can be issuing invitations to anyone and bypassing group moderators altogether.

My concern here is not that *I* have been somehow bypassed, it's that such a bypass can happen at all; it's definitely created concern that someone may have found a back door into this group at least, and maybe others.? Wondering if this is someone exploiting an unnoticed vulnerability or loophole.

Any thoughts / clarifications greatly appreciated!

Karl

Re: Searching Photos

 

On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 07:40 AM, psb b wrote:
The key is "except Emailed Photos album" -- none are in any albums.
If you were to suggest -- in beta -- that the Emailed Photos "album" be included in the search, I think that would be totally reasonable.

I did go to "working with photos". ?Scoured as best I could and didn't find "setting account preferences" or "items per page".
You'll find those settings at /settings/prefs?

My apologies for "last time I asked this question". ?I forgot. ?I am older and self taught.
Many of us are! No problem.
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Regards,
Bruce
Re: Searching Photos

 

The key is "except Emailed Photos album" -- none are in any albums.
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I did go to "working with photos". ?Scoured as best I could and didn't find "setting account preferences" or "items per page".
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My apologies for "last time I asked this question". ?I forgot. ?I am older and self taught.
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Thank you and Frances.
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Re: Searching Photos

 

On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 12:26 AM, psb b wrote:
I've tried the author/poster
the email of the author/poster
copy/pasting the jpeg
None of these will work.?

and description
This should work, as should the file name.
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From the docs:?
  • You can use the Search field and button at the upper right of the Photos page to search for photos. The search engine searches across all photo albums in the group (except the Emailed Photos album) for keywords in photo file names and descriptions."
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My experience:?
  • If the keyword appears in either the file name or the description of a photo, it will be returned.
  • If the keyword appears in the title or description of an enclosing album, all photos in that album will be returned
  • If you want to get a match for "birthday," use something like "birth*" instead. The appended asterisk will make it match "birthday", "birthdays" and "birth."

Nothing works. ?
It works the way it was programmed to work. If you want changes to be made, that won't be accomplished by asking here. Please compose a clear statement of your expectations and post it as a #suggestion . Unlike GMF, that group is actually monitored by system admins.

Could our group need attention? ?A fix of some sort?
The situation is unchanged from the last time you asked this question.
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Hope this helps,
Bruce
Re: Searching Photos

 

On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 12:26 AM, psb b wrote:
I've tried the author/poster
the email of the author/poster
copy/pasting the jpeg?
and description
Nothing works. ?Could our group need attention? ?A fix of some sort?
Are you searching in Emailed Photos or Photo Albums?
You can sort the Emailed Photos, but no search box.
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As Duane said, many people don't label their photos properly. The fix would be to request that people label the photos correctly when they upload them. And the labels are editable afterwards.
Also the photos can be put in albums.

And all Photo info in Help:
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Frances
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Help available from Groups.io help and GMF wiki.

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Re: Searching Photos

 

I've tried the author/poster
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the email of the author/poster
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copy/pasting the jpeg?
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and description
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Nothing works. ?Could our group need attention? ?A fix of some sort?
Re: Searching Photos

 

Just go to the Photos folder and enter the item that you want to find in the Search box at the upper right.? Chances are that you won't find it though.? People have a habit of uploading files with names like IMG_9084.JPG? or IMG_20230508_184944.jpg that don't really mean much rather than rename them to something useful.? Only file names are searched, not the descriptions.
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.
Searching Photos

 

Can I have step by step instructions on how to search photos?
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Thank you.
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Re: Members no longer able to upload files ? Do not the the "Green" button

 

Thank you Duane!? Right where you said it was!
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John Abbott
Re: Members no longer able to upload files ? Do not the the "Green" button

 

On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 09:26 AM, JSA wrote:
I had studied the Owners Manual and did not understand this.
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I am an owner of my group but under Admin I do see at "Settings" option to follow the manual info Admin>Settings?
The manuals are being updated to catch up with a lot of changes made over the last year or so and not everything is where they say it is.? In this case, it will be at Admin > Preferences > Settings > Features > Files > Permissions.
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You should also check to see if any Folders are restricted.? On the line for the Folder, click the Update icon to make sure it's not set to "Only you and moderators can add files to this folder".
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.
Re: Members no longer able to upload files ? Do not the the "Green" button

 

On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 10:26 AM, JSA wrote:
I am an owner of my group but under Admin I do see at "Settings" option to follow the manual info Admin>Settings?
Should it be here??
Group settings are at Admin=>Preferences=>Settings now.
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The UI was updated several months ago and the docs have not [yet] caught up. It's been a little frustrating, especially when the menu system is involved.
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Regards,
Bruce
Re: Members no longer able to upload files ? Do not the the "Green" button

 

Thank you Duane.
I had studied the Owners Manual and did not understand this.
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I am an owner of my group but under Admin I do see at "Settings" option to follow the manual info Admin>Settings?
Should it be here?? This picture shows the 'green' button I have for files but members do not seem to have the button...
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Thank you very much for your help.
John Abbott
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Re: Members no longer able to upload files ? Do not the the "Green" button

 

On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 08:43 AM, JSA wrote:
Hello our group has a premium plan but I just learned today that members do not see the "green button" for uploading files in the file section.
John -- I suspect this button may have disappeared last year, after you asked a question about "moderating" file activity (/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/98759128#msg43868).
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Please note that if you permit regular subscribers to upload files, they will subsequently be able to delete their own uploads. There is no provision within groups.io to keep people from deleting their own content.
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Regards,
Bruce
Re: Members no longer able to upload files ? Do not the the "Green" button

 

On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 07:43 AM, JSA wrote:
Any suggestions?
Double check your settings for Permissions for Files.
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.
Members no longer able to upload files ? Do not the the "Green" button

 

Hello our group has a premium plan but I just learned today that members do not see the "green button" for uploading files in the file section.
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I still see it and did not realize there is a problem.
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Our account is up to date and we have a premium plan and are nowhere near the max storage limits.
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Any suggestions?? I have been searching "upload" in the message archive and have checked "owners manual"?
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Thank you?
John Abbott
eternity2 users group
Re: Members being erroneously unsubscribed

 

On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 01:12 PM, Marilyn Owen wrote:
I have always assumed that they accidentally clicked on the Unsubscribe at the bottom of an email.
Clicking on the Unsubscribe link at the bottom of an email takes you to the Groups.io website where it gives you options to change your subscription settings, Cancel or definitely confirm that you want to leave a group.? So, it has to be a positive action to leave and I would say it's extremely difficult and unlikely that the whole process could be done accidentally.
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Regards
Andy
Re: Members being erroneously unsubscribed

 

For what it is worth, I have also had this happen periodically with various members. Not often, but enough for me to notice. I have always assumed that they accidentally clicked on the Unsubscribe at the bottom of an email.

Marilyn
Re: Members being erroneously unsubscribed

 

(Followup) I see that you're correct that clicking the? unsubscribe link in the footer, and confirming they want to leave the group, does result in the "left via web" log entry.
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Still, it seems unlikely that a reasonably tech-savvy person would go through all of that inadvertently. I'll do some more digging.
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Pete
Re: Members being erroneously unsubscribed

 

Its curious that you appear to be the only one having this problem

Are you absolutely sure they are not doing something themselves?

Such as clicking unsubscribe at the foot of each post, thinking its unsubscribing from that thread or topic? (instead of mute this topic)

Otherwise why are no others reporting the same problem?

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 17/12/2024 21:12, Pete Cook via groups.io wrote:
That¡¯s a good thought, Malcom, but she¡¯s not flagged as either RS or RI, and her activity log doesn¡¯t have any evidence of ever being in either status. And again, the log shows her removing /herself/, which is flat out wrong.?So I don¡¯t get it.
Pete
Re: Members being erroneously unsubscribed

 

That¡¯s a good thought, Malcom, but she¡¯s not flagged as either RS or RI, and her activity log doesn¡¯t have any evidence of ever being in either status. And again, the log shows her removing herself, which is flat out wrong.?So I don¡¯t get it.

Pete?
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