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Re: attachments photos images

 

? ? ? Sorry have been busy with other things so not been responding in timely fashion. Anyway, not sure where to find the ¡°Topics View¡± feature so have not been experimenting with it. I did try posting to the Groups.io website directly instead of via email from my Mac Mail program and got sendings with a blank space where the pictures are supposed to be, but no actual posting of any pictures. But the process is somewhat cumbersome.
? ? ? Nonetheless, wondering if someone from Groups.io has been looking at some of the postings as yesterday¡¯s postings of my list did show up with its pictures in the right place. Maybe they tweaked a feature to fix the problem. Hope it stays that way, but will see what they subsequently look like going forward.
? ? ?Wish someone could send me a protocol for me to follow to fix these issues myself so I don¡¯t have to bother anyone for help. If anyone is willing to do this, they can email me at: lum40@.... In any case, thanks to everyone else for making suggestions and trying to be helpful. Have a nice Holidays.
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Ken Lum
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Re: Clockwork Bouncing

 

On 10/26/2024 04:23 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:
I understand perfectly. The big problem is, I am subscribed to over 30 email lists. Which one is it? I don't administer any of them. Does this mean I'm going to have to go to 30 email list and find out who it is by writing to the list owners? What an annoying headache!
On Oct 26, 2024, at 6:12?€?AM, Steve Haas via groups.io <Goatfisher2@...> wrote:Steve,
To answer your questions.
The e-mail in-box is for the account <mailto:bistrack@...>bistrack@...
Orepack.com is a domain somewhere on the web where messages from the group are being sent to.
The user who uses the e-mail address <mailto:bistrack@...>bistrack@... belongs to your group (why else would messages come back to you?).
The recipient mail box is full. The message being returned is sent by the operator of that domain, in this case orepack.com.
I pinged Orepack.com and it timed out. Pinged the IP address it returned and it returned a time out also. It is possible that site is down, or has possibly been terminated.

orepack.com is a parked domain so you won't be getting any help from them.
There are some BizTrack support groups on Reddit. You might try asking around there.
Low probability but try contacting Epicor and ask if they have any clues

You said you used two different email addresses for GIO.
No body has picked up on your dual email addresses.
Any overlap in any group with your two addresses?

Art


Re: Clockwork Bouncing

 

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If the bounce messages are coming from a user who belongs to one of your 30+ groups as an auto reply to the group, then it¡¯s likely that others in the group are also receiving the bounce messages. You as NOT-admin cannot check for which member may have that email address, but the admin(s) can.

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Perhaps you can post a message to each group, asking if anyone else is receiving the bounces, and asking the admin(s) to check for that email address in the group(s). A bit of copy/paste labor to send 30+ messages to your groups, but a great enough reward if it stops you from dealing with 50 messages a day.

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Isa

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Isa Cocallas (she/her)

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Steve Matzura <sm@...>
Date: Saturday, October 26, 2024 at 2:34 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [GMF] Clockwork Bouncing

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I understand perfectly. The big problem is, I am subscribed to over 30 email lists. Which one is it? I don¡¯t administer any of them. Does this mean I¡¯m going to have to go to 30 email list and find out who it is by writing to the list owners? What an annoying headache!?

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On Oct 26, 2024, at 6:12?AM, Steve Haas via groups.io <Goatfisher2@...> wrote:Steve,

To answer your questions.

  1. The e-mail in-box is for the account bistrack@...
  2. Orepack.com is a domain somewhere on the web where messages from the group are being sent to.
  3. The user who uses the e-mail address bistrack@... belongs to your group (why else would messages come back to you?).
  4. The recipient mail box is full.? The message being returned is sent by the operator of that domain, in this case orepack.com.

I pinged Orepack.com and it timed out.? Pinged the IP address it returned and it returned a time out also.? ?It is possible that site is down, or has possibly been terminated.

Why you are seeing these messages is something I can¡¯t explain ¨C I have group e-mails addressed to group members bounce every day, but I don¡¯t receive ¡°your group is bouncing ¡° messages. Someone else will have to help you out there.

Hopefully someone else will have more insight as to why you are receiving those emails when the rest of us don¡¯t.? Good Luck!

Best regards,

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Steve

Steve Haas

Snoqualmie, WA

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Re: Clockwork Bouncing

 

I'm at a loss to explain why you're continuing to receiving these emails. Or why you might have gotten one in the first place, for that matter.
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I think Nivard is on the right track, though. At this point I'd probably create a mail filter that heads off any message containing bistrack(at)orepack.com and sends it to the bit-bucket.
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Regards,
Bruce


Re: Clockwork Bouncing

 

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Steve Matzura replies, providing additional information,

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¡°I understand perfectly. The big problem is, I am subscribed to over 30 email lists. Which one is it? I don¡¯t administer any of them. Does this mean I¡¯m going to have to go to 30 email list and find out who it is by writing to the list owners? What an annoying headache!¡±

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In that case my previous comments aren¡¯t going to help you except as background info on how some things work.

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Two things come to mind:

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  1. Based on?Nivard Ovington¡¯s post, Bistrack is a software product (suite ?) apparently produced/marketed by Epicore.? Do any of the groups you are in perhaps related to business applications (finance, ERP, etc.) where reference to this type of support might be made?? If so, I¡¯d look at those groups first.
  2. This could be totally out of your hands, as it could be one of those quirks that shows up from time out on the internet: A long, long time ago on a hobby related group back on Yahoo or even Onelist a message was blocked because of spam.? Something in the e-mail caught the attention of some random domain¡¯s filters out there and it flagged the message as spam ¨C not the sender¡¯s domain, not mine, not the groups.?

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Most likely, its not your problem and there¡¯s not much you can do about it.? Delete them when they show up and move on to the next message.

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Best regards,

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Steve

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Steve Haas

Snoqualmie, WA


Re: Clockwork Bouncing

 

Most would assume that those subscribing to this group are mostly group owners or moderators, it appears you are neither, so would not receive admin messages

It seems that Bistrack are part of a company supplying tracking software for businesses, hence the name, try a google of it

Why you are getting them I cannot say but why don't you block that address, as its clearly not one you want to receive?

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 26/10/2024 12:23, Steve Matzura via groups.io wrote:
I understand perfectly. The big problem is, I am subscribed to over 30 email lists. Which one is it? I don¡¯t administer any of them. Does this mean I¡¯m going to have to go to 30 email list and find out who it is by writing to the list owners? What an annoying headache!


Re: Clockwork Bouncing

 

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I understand perfectly. The big problem is, I am subscribed to over 30 email lists. Which one is it? I don¡¯t administer any of them. Does this mean I¡¯m going to have to go to 30 email list and find out who it is by writing to the list owners? What an annoying headache!?

On Oct 26, 2024, at 6:12?AM, Steve Haas via groups.io <Goatfisher2@...> wrote:Steve,

To answer your questions.

  1. The e-mail in-box is for the account bistrack@...
  2. Orepack.com is a domain somewhere on the web where messages from the group are being sent to.
  3. The user who uses the e-mail address bistrack@... belongs to your group (why else would messages come back to you?).
  4. The recipient mail box is full.? The message being returned is sent by the operator of that domain, in this case orepack.com.

I pinged Orepack.com and it timed out.? Pinged the IP address it returned and it returned a time out also.? ?It is possible that site is down, or has possibly been terminated.

Why you are seeing these messages is something I can¡¯t explain ¨C I have group e-mails addressed to group members bounce every day, but I don¡¯t receive ¡°your group is bouncing ¡° messages. Someone else will have to help you out there.

Hopefully someone else will have more insight as to why you are receiving those emails when the rest of us don¡¯t.? Good Luck!

Best regards,

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Steve

Steve Haas

Snoqualmie, WA

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Re: Clockwork Bouncing

 
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Steve Matzura inquired:

¡°Every day at about the same time, plus or minus two or three minutes, I get a "your group is bouncing" message from groups.io. The number of rows varies. Today it was fifty messages in three hours. All the rows in the table look like this:

5.0.0 smtp; 552 5.2.2 <bistrack@...>: Recipient address rejected: Quota exceeded (mailbox for user is full)

What mailbox? Certainly not mine--I know this for a provable fact. So then, what is orepack.com and what connection do they have to either me or groups.io?

And another interesting thing--this only happens on one of my two email addresses that have email lists on groups.io¡±

Steve,

To answer your questions.

  1. The e-mail in-box is for the account bistrack@...
  2. Orepack.com is a domain somewhere on the web where messages from the group are being sent to.
  3. The user who uses the e-mail address bistrack@... belongs to your group (why else would messages come back to you?).
  4. The recipient mail box is full.? The message being returned is sent by the operator of that domain, in this case orepack.com.

I pinged Orepack.com and it timed out.? Pinged the IP address it returned and it returned a time out also.? ?It is possible that site is down, or has possibly been terminated.

Why you are seeing these messages is something I can¡¯t explain ¨C I have group e-mails addressed to group members bounce every day, but I don¡¯t receive ¡°your group is bouncing ¡° messages. Someone else will have to help you out there.

Hopefully someone else will have more insight as to why you are receiving those emails when the rest of us don¡¯t.? Good Luck!

Best regards,

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Steve Haas

Snoqualmie, WA

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[Edited for brevity by Moderator]


Re: Locked !?

 

No, am not using special software or spoken command.
My pinkie drags and sometimes clicks a button accidentally.
and for some reason my keyboard is extra extra sensitive and wrong things suddenly appear.
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I might be resting my wrists on the laptop unknowingly. ?For now, I'm baffled.
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Thanks for the "More" tip. ?That worked. ?I did looks under the available helps but wasn't finding that little tidbit.
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Shine & Soar in '24
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"Who? ?What? ?Are You Old Ladies Kidding Me?"
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On Friday, October 25, 2024 at 11:11:25 AM EDT, Frances <frances@...> wrote:
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On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 07:02 AM, psb b wrote:
How to unlock, please?
If you are using a computer, click on Messages. At the bottom of the message that is locked, click on the little down arrow to unlock the topic.
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If you open the message on your computer, you can use the ... More button at the bottom of the message to do the same thing.
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You mention you have arthritis. I am not sure if that means you are using special software. If you are, perhaps there is a spoken command that I am unaware of. Please let us know.
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Frances
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Help available from Groups.io help and GMF wiki.

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Re: Locked !?

 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 07:02 AM, psb b wrote:
I have arthristis and I accidentally locked one of my messages.
Glad you were able to reverse this.
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Just to be clear, topics can be locked, but not messages. There have been [rare] occasions that I'd actually like to be able to lock a single message, just to keep someone from editing it (without changing the settings for the entire group). Not an option at this point.
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Regards,
Bruce


Re: Locked !?

 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 07:02 AM, psb b wrote:
How to unlock, please?
If you are using a computer, click on Messages. At the bottom of the message that is locked, click on the little down arrow to unlock the topic.
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If you open the message on your computer, you can use the ... More button at the bottom of the message to do the same thing.
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You mention you have arthritis. I am not sure if that means you are using special software. If you are, perhaps there is a spoken command that I am unaware of. Please let us know.
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Frances
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Help available from Groups.io help and GMF wiki.

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Re: attachments photos images

 

On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 06:02 AM, psb b wrote:
the messages appeared with their attached photos, images, and attachments running down the right side.
The nearest I can figure is that you were on the Topics view of the group.? For example, if you look at this group in Topics view, you'll see that those with attachments will show a preview/link on the right.
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.


attachments photos images

 

I previously sent a help question about lock and unlock topic. ?In hunting around I found the answer. ?But, also...
in hunting around, I'm the owner of our group, the messages appeared with their attached photos, images, and attachments running down the right side.
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I LOVE IT!
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It disappeared.
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What? ?How? ?Can I get that feature back?
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Thanks!


Locked !?

 

I have arthristis and I accidentally locked one of my messages.
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How to unlock, please?


Re: Clockwork Bouncing

 

On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 05:20 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
What's going on,
Without more information, I doubt that we can help much.? My hunch is that your email to a member is bouncing because their mailbox is full, but at this point it's just a SWAG.
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Duane
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Re: groups.io will not accept a group's member's e.mail forward from gmail

 

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On 2024-10-24 15:56, Duane via groups.io wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 02:48 PM, Rich Painter wrote:
Can't anyone explain why all my gmail forwards to other groups.io groups done months and years ago do not behave like this and without aliases?
?Have you compared the addresses and settings for this one with those that work? That would be the simplest way to see what's happening.? I suspect some small difference that you're not aware of yet.

That's what I'd also think, some small difference on the gmail account settings between one which works and this problem one.

One way to check this is, in your test group add both the problem one and a working gmail forwarding account, and set both to forward to that test group, and see if the problem one still doesn't work.

If you want I can add the problem account to a group of mine, then you can set it to forward to my group and then do a test to see what happens, see if I get the same error you get. If you want to do that contact me offlist.

Cheers,
Christos


Clockwork Bouncing

 

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Every day at about the same time, plus or minus two or three minutes, I get a "your group is bouncing" message from groups.io. The number of rows varies. Today it was fifty messages in three hours. All the rows in the table look like this:


5.0.0 smtp; 552 5.2.2 <bistrack@...>: Recipient address rejected: Quota exceeded (mailbox for user is full)


What mailbox? Certainly not mine--I know this for a provable fact. So then, what is orepack.com and what connection do they have to either me or groups.io?


And another interesting thing--this only happens on one of my two email addresses that have email lists on groups.io.


What's going on, and how can I stop it from happening every day?


Re: groups.io will not accept a group's member's e.mail forward from gmail

 

On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 02:48 PM, Rich Painter wrote:
Can't anyone explain why all my gmail forwards to other groups.io groups done months and years ago do not behave like this and without aliases?
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Have you compared the addresses and settings for this one with those that work? That would be the simplest way to see what's happening.? I suspect some small difference that you're not aware of yet.

Someone who wrote these interfaces should know what is going on!!!
There is no one from Groups.io here.? As noted on our home page, this is a peer-to-peer group of users that try to help others.? The only groups monitored by management are those in the .
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Duane
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Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual.


Re: groups.io will not accept a group's member's e.mail forward from gmail

 

Before adding the alias the email sent back to the forwarder was simply "mhcgfx1b9j+caf_@..." is not a group member.

So I added the alias of the same...

Once that was done there are NO return emails to the forwarder! Yet groups.io logs what I have below and does not distribute to the group.

Are you now saying that the alias be changed from "mhcgfx1b9j+caf_@..." to "mhcgfx1b9j+caf_=p7j3q9k5=groups.io@..." ???

This appears arcane, even unnatural.

But I will give it a try.

Can't anyone explain why all my gmail forwards to other groups.io groups done months and years ago do not behave like this and without aliases? Someone who wrote these interfaces should know what is going on!!!

thanks
rich


Re: Transfer number from one group to another?

 

Bruce,

Why not make your BOD a subgroup of the Main group? I have a similar group and we have lots of restricted subgroups that are not seen as a subgroup unless one is a member. People are removed from the subgroups and direct added when needed.

Marilyn