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Why does server temporarily unavailable cause a bounce?
The code is defined as a backoff and try later. Full message:
pkvw-mx.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net: 452 4.1.0 <[email protected]> server temporarily unavailable AUP#In-1380 And it shows up in the log sometimes but I'm not bounced. It seems that sometimes the system is doing this for less obvious reasons. As a group owner on a number of groups, it is kind of annoying. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com |
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Re: Giving a person Edit Calendar privs
On Sat, Aug 24, 2024 at 01:07 AM, Mike Hanauer wrote:
Correct.? If you review the Permissions options for each the Features in your group settings, you will generally find that you cannot exclude Mods from accessing/updating things. A notable exception is Subgroups where creation can be restricted to Owners. I would say that would be the minimum you need to do. ?
I (and my co-owner) put all the initial details in to create the event. That way we control the overall format and double-check that details are relevant and correct. It's also less painful than having to tidy up afterwards.
Moderate all calendar related hashtags so you can keep control over how many event related messages sent to you group.
If you need to remove a member's control over the calendar event, simply remove their email address from the Organiser Email field.
RSVP events are referred to in the Working with Calendars section of the Member's Manual.? Note that giving a member control over a calendar event by putting their email address in the Organiser Email field is not mentioned as this is a relatively recent change and the manual's haven't caught up yet.?? The manuals are also behind in relation to recent UI changes too. There is an outstanding action for a major overhaul of the manuals but I'm not aware of any target date for that. ?
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Andy
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Re: Sending a message to all but one member of the Group
Christos and Andy, Thanks to you both/each for your deeply thought-out suggestions. I knew it would either be simple - like 'Select all' then check off one, or...something else. The SubGroup idea is really a stretch outta the park. I hope I can avoid it. That's kind of like going around your big toe to get from your left ear to the right one. On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 11:22?AM Christos Psarras via <christos=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Giving a person Edit Calendar privs
On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 08:07 PM, Mike Hanauer wrote:
Just an FYI
Groups.io recommends having more than one owner.? ?
Frances
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Re: Giving a person Edit Calendar privs
Thank you Andy. Much better info than what I could find in help. So, if I read your note correctly, making this person a moderator without any checked privs will still allow them to edit lots more than calendar, correct?? So maybe best is to leave them a member and myself (owner) enter a skeleton calendar event which need have no more data than their email address? Right? Any other options i might consider? BTW, I see no reference to RSVP events. Where is that? Thanks. ? ? ~Mike
On Friday, August 23, 2024 at 06:01:28 PM EDT, Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16 PM, Mike Hanauer wrote:
I am looking to give specific individuals (members) the ability to add calendar events without giving them any other moderator privs. I don't see this as a mod priv. Can a moderator have no privs but still be able to edit the calendar? Other ideas?If you make someone a Mod, they automatically get certain permissions over items jn the Features section of group settings such as the Calendar, Files, Photos & Wiki etc.? However, if you add an event to the calendar yourself (I'm assuming you are the Owner/Mod) and put the email address of a group member in the Organiser Email field, then they get full control over just that event so they can update and delete it if needed. ?
If it is an RSVP event, they also get access to all the options on the Actions button on the Responses page and are also able to see the additional information entered by each respondent (if any was requested).? I found it useful to moderate the #cal-invite hashtag as when members first start updating calendar details they tended to use the Update Event & Group button which generated lots of unnecessary messages for the group.
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I also review the events to check the frequency and type of reminders.? On my group, I don't want too many reminders or have them sent out as special messages for example.
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Re: Giving a person Edit Calendar privs
On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 10:16 PM, Mike Hanauer wrote:
I am looking to give specific individuals (members) the ability to add calendar events without giving them any other moderator privs. I don't see this as a mod priv. Can a moderator have no privs but still be able to edit the calendar? Other ideas?If you make someone a Mod, they automatically get certain permissions over items jn the Features section of group settings such as the Calendar, Files, Photos & Wiki etc.? However, if you add an event to the calendar yourself (I'm assuming you are the Owner/Mod) and put the email address of a group member in the Organiser Email field, then they get full control over just that event so they can update and delete it if needed. ?
If it is an RSVP event, they also get access to all the options on the Actions button on the Responses page and are also able to see the additional information entered by each respondent (if any was requested).? I found it useful to moderate the #cal-invite hashtag as when members first start updating calendar details they tended to use the Update Event & Group button which generated lots of unnecessary messages for the group.
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I also review the events to check the frequency and type of reminders.? On my group, I don't want too many reminders or have them sent out as special messages for example.
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Giving a person Edit Calendar privs
Hi All,
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I am looking to give specific individuals (members) the ability to add calendar events without giving them any other moderator privs. I don't see this as a mod priv. Can a moderator have no privs but still be able to edit the calendar? Other ideas?
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Re: Sending a message to all but one member of the Group
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOn 2024-08-23 14:39, Andy Wedge via
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I can think of two possible solutions without posting and deleting messages to your main group. There's also a third option which doesn't involve emailing from groups.io itself, export the memberlist CSV, extract all the addresses but his, and send a (BCC) offlist email from your own email address. I've posted in the past a VBscript that will extract those addresses from the CSV for you without needing Excel or whatnot, it's here: /g/GroupManagersForum/message/45919 The instructions tell you to filter for RI (since it was written for that intent specifically) but ignore that part, use no filter. Cheers, Christos |
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Re: [catalina30] It¡¯s nice to just cruise
On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 12:41 PM, KWKloeber wrote:
inquiring minds want to know WHY this happens Basically, it's because the devices/apps are using different encoding techniques.? You could read for days (I have ;>) trying to understand what happens.? Suffice to say that one device used UTF-8 to create it and another is trying to use something else (Unicode?) to decode it, or vice versa.
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BTW, did you try copy/paste of that jumbled line into the decode page I linked?
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Re: Sending a message to all but one member of the Group
On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 06:42 PM, Dan Tucker wrote:
I can think of two possible solutions without posting and deleting messages to your main group. ?
Option 1
If you have a premium group, just create a subgroup and put everyone apart from this member in there. Then send a message to the subgroup. You may wish to update the subgroup Privacy settings so that it's not easily visible from the main group:
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Option 2
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Sending a message to all but one member of the Group
So, I've researched this in the User Manual and on this forum. And the simple answer is "NO".
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We are trying to get out a notice - to all but him - that there will be a surprise party for one of our members who has worked 50 years as a firefighter.
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But is there a way?
I wonder if there's a work-around by disabling the specific members account, or temporarily setting him to 'No Emails' for the duration of the Send? (from the time I compose the message until I Send it)
I've already figured that I could Send it Locked - so no replies could come back from it.
And then I'd go into the Message/Topic list and Delete it - within moments of Sending it. Other than administratively, there wouldn't be a trace of it.
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Re: [catalina30] It¡¯s nice to just cruise
Paul
my phone defaults to iOS Mail App when I tap Reply to Group
And if does that subj line dance with only THAT one message.?
Diane
That Beta post seems to be a discussion of all sorts of things except WHY a UTF (whatever the heck that is) Subject line is being entered on that ONE reply. ??
inquiring minds want to know WHY this happens.? thx |
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Re: I need to change the members account email address, but she no longer has access to the email account
On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 04:32 PM, joseph hudson wrote:
Hello guys, very rare situation. But I know I have a group that all allow me to do it. Because it was created back in I believe 2017. I don't remember. But I have a member who got locked out of one of their email addresses, that they use for a lot of groups. We tried recovering the email address, using the recovery method from Google. But we've been very unsuccessful. So I finally decided to bite the bullet and try to go online and change her email address for the Adam panel. However, I got the email address, edit field, where her old address i and it won't let me edit the address. Is that still able to be done with groups that had? Subgroup options and the like? Or do I need to upgrade the group? I believe the person can still sign-in to groups.io with their old email address and password and then change their email address. If that doesn't work, for some reason, you can invite them again to the group with their new address and delete the old membership.
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Re: I need to change the members account email address, but she no longer has access to the email account
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One thing to keep in mind is that this trick can work only if she hasn't already logged in groups.io with her new address; if she already has then she would have to delete the new address from groups.io first before the premium group mod does the change. Cheers, Christos |
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Re: I need to change the members account email address, but she no longer has access to the email account
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýJoseph -You don't have that partiular authority on regular groups. They never have had that ability. I took two groups premium back when group transfers from Yahoo first started, partly because of the additional premium owner authorities. When I first used the ability to change member's email address, Mark cautioned me about the??ramifications of such an action, and I've actually only used it about three times in all these years.
Another possibility, although it might be a long shot, might be if she also belongs to another group that is premium. One group changing her email address will do that for all of her subscriptions. Dano __________________ Joseph Hudson wrote: > Hello guys, very rare situation. But I know I have a group that all allow me to > do it. Because it was created back in I believe 2017. I > don't remember. But I have a member who got locked out of one of their email >?addresses, that they use for a lot of groups. We tried recovering the email
>?address, using the recovery method from Google. But we've
> been very unsuccessful. So I finally decided to bite the bullet and try to go > online and change her email address for the Adam panel. However, I got the > email address, edit field, where her old address i and it won't let me edit the >?address. Is that still able to be done with groups that had? Subgroup options
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Re: Spam
On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 04:58 PM, prakash mackay wrote:
When I click on Admin it only shows Pending, Members and Activity I am not finding Settings to change so that Non-Members cannot post On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 07:14 PM, prakash mackay wrote:
I am the group owner These two statements are contradictory. You should find Settings under Preferences. You do have Preferences, don't you?
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Failing that, do you have two email addresses? You may have logged in with the wrong one. Look at the Home button at the upper left (on the menu sidebar). If there's no baby-blue "Owner" badge next to it, you aren't logged in correctly.
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If the blue badge instead says "Mod," you are a Moderator with insufficient privileges and not the group Owner.
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Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual |
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Re: Spam
Hi Frances,thank you for your response.I am the group owner On Thu, Aug 22, 2024, 11:27 AM Frances via <frances=[email protected]> wrote:
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Ken Cameron
Andy Wedge
Dan Tucker
Frances
Mike Hanauer
Christos Psarras
Duane
KWKloeber
Jeannette Bellerose
D R Stinson
Bruce
prakash mackay