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On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 03:37 PM, Steve Doyle wrote:

The owner of our group deleted the group without warning and now regrets.? C'est la vie.? However, I am not able to simply recreate the group.? Apparently it is frozen for some period of time.

If you think you might want to resurrect a group, the standard advice here is to rename the current group to something unintelligible prior to deleting it. Since that was not done, you're kinda out of luck.

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Can I recover the deleted group??

Even if you had a complete backup/export, this function is not available.

How long do I and the existing members (who are wondering what happened) have to wait to re-create at least a "what the heck" page to explain the situation?

Indefinitely.

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You cannot create a page or anything else under the old group's URL. Your best bet is to create a brand new group under a similar name and manually notify everyone about it.

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Sorry,

Bruce

I have some questions about a deleted group and hopefully someone can advise me.

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The owner of our group deleted the group without warning and now regrets.? C'est la vie.? However, I am not able to simply recreate the group.? Apparently it is frozen for some period of time.

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Can I recover the deleted group?? How long do I and the existing members (who are wondering what happened) have to wait to re-create at least a "what the heck" page to explain the situation?

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TIA,

Steve D.

KHRC Moderator

Thanks again, Frances. Yes, I deleted the hashtag with the alias I had inserted, and indeed all posts now bear the hashtag alias.? Logic would seem to suggest (?) to me, that deleting the hashtag that contains the alias, would effectively "cancel" the reassignment, but it doesn't.??

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Thanks for the assistance! My issue fully solved.

On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 12:30 PM, Steve wrote:

My only remaining question, which Frances seemed to answer, but I want to be crystal clear...

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After I create the alias in the hashtag that I want to no longer appear, can I DELETE that hashtag and will the alias addition still apply on the posts in question?? e.g. right now, your advice works perfectly and all of the posts in question bear the other hash tag... I'm just wondering (?) if the "effect" will still be there once (IF?) I DELETE the old hash tag in which the alias was inserted?

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Hopefully that makes sense... I'd like to delete it (I'm a housecleaning nut, sigh), but can leave it alone as I see that once you put in the alias, that one no longer appears on the dropdown list from which members can choose...

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Just retested to make sure. Yes, I can create a new hashtag to use as alias (or use an existing hashtag as alias). Then after I have made the other hashtag the alias, I can delete the old hashtag. The messages are all there with the newly assigned hashtag.

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Frances

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Thanks Duane and Frances, the alias option worked nicely.

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My only remaining question, which Frances seemed to answer, but I want to be crystal clear...

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After I create the alias in the hashtag that I want to no longer appear, can I DELETE that hashtag and will the alias addition still apply on the posts in question?? e.g. right now, your advice works perfectly and all of the posts in question bear the other hash tag... I'm just wondering (?) if the "effect" will still be there once (IF?) I DELETE the old hash tag in which the alias was inserted?

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Hopefully that makes sense... I'd like to delete it (I'm a housecleaning nut, sigh), but can leave it alone as I see that once you put in the alias, that one no longer appears on the dropdown list from which members can choose...

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On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 11:41 AM, Steve wrote:

I have about 700 message posts (involving over 300 different topics) that were tagged with a particular hash tag (and in some cases, along with other tags).? I want to DELETE the particular hash tag from ALL of those posts and REPLACE it with another existing hash tag...? I know I can click on the hashtag selection and bring up all of the posts in question, but how do I go from there, e.g. select all, etc, and do the delete/replace?? Or, does that option simply not exist? Or, do I have to do it on a 1x1 basis (ugh)?

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Do you wish to change all the messages with a particular tag to the same tag?

i.e. Do you wish to change all messages with #halifax to #NovaScotia

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If you do, first, you do it in # Hashtags. Click on Edit for the particular hashtag you want to get rid of.

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Then just create an alias for that hashtag. (If the hashtag you want for the alias doesn't exist yet, create it. e.g. in my sample, add #NovaScotia)

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System message appears when you make an alias - Note: Topics tagged with #halifax will be transferred to #NovaScotia.

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Any other hashtags on individual messages are retained. Just removes the one you are creating an alias for. Then delete the old hashtag in Hashtags.

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Help - /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-hashtags/viewing-creating-modifying-and-deleting-hashtags

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Frances

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On Sun, Jul 21, 2024 at 10:41 AM, Steve wrote:

I want to DELETE the particular hash tag from ALL of those posts and REPLACE it with another existing hash tag...

I think I understand what you want to do.? If you want to replace the hashtag on all messages that have it, you can edit the existing hashtag to make it an alias (redirect) of the one you want to use.? In most cases, this is only used to consolidate variations of a hashtag, but it should work just as well for a bulk replacement in this case.

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Duane

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I'm probably not looking in the right place (or more likely, I'm not awake enough), but...

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I have about 700 message posts (involving over 300 different topics) that were tagged with a particular hash tag (and in some cases, along with other tags).? I want to DELETE the particular hash tag from ALL of those posts and REPLACE it with another existing hash tag...? I know I can click on the hashtag selection and bring up all of the posts in question, but how do I go from there, e.g. select all, etc, and do the delete/replace?? Or, does that option simply not exist? Or, do I have to do it on a 1x1 basis (ugh)?

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Thanks for your feedback!

On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 05:38 PM, Duane wrote:

use a link on your group (wiki page?)

As Duane suggests, you can make your wiki publicly available. But you'd have to put it somewhere else if it is a PDF. You can put images on a wiki, but not a PDF.

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In theory, you could also put a link on your homepage but perhaps a bit messier. Again, a link to the document somewhere else.

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(The wiki is available to premium groups and to older free groups who have it as a legacy feature.)

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Frances

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On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 04:35 PM, Robert Oshel wrote:

Is there a way to make a PDF file available to the general public?

Not on the site.? You'd have to store it somewhere, like Google Drive, and use a link on your group (wiki page?)

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Duane

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Thanks Duane!? I found it now.

Frances, thank you. Hadn't thought to do that. But they were all set at Unlimited attachment size. The two who replied both have older IPhones. I asked them to check and see if they were trying to attach JPEG or HEIC format files. One is pretty capable, the other gave me a chuckle when she replied that she doesn't speak Greek.?

Anyway. it looks like things have now "cleared" up. So I'm back to my original guess that it was an issue with their phones.

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Pat P

On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 06:52 PM, Margo Seegrist wrote:

Is there any way to delete the attachment to an email and leave the email?? When I clicked on More at the bottom of the email after going Admin-Preferences-Upgrade and clicking on the View Attachments next to Attachments line, which takes me to the specific email, the only choice that would delete the attachment is to delete the message.

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Yes, you can delete a photo and leave the post.

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I opened the post. Clicked on Edit Message with the More.

Then checked the box to choose the one I wanted deleted. Then clicked to delete without sending it to members. The message is still intact. The paperclip icon is still on these test emails, but that *might* disappear. Not sure.

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This works for photos and attachments.

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I also could go to Photos, Emailed Photos. Selected the one to delete. Then click on Delete.?

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Frances

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On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 02:12 PM, TucsonHikers wrote:

I no longer see an option to resend a confirmation email to a member flagged NC.

You have to go to that member's page and scroll all the way to the bottom.? There you'll see a button to Send Confirmation Email.

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Duane

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I no longer see an option to resend a confirmation email to a member flagged NC.? The option use to be there (I've used it in the past) but haven't seen it for about a year. I have a "grandfathered" free group.

On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 12:40 PM, Jeannette Bellerose wrote:

In the member list—in Admin—you could check all those NC members and download the checked ones to a .csv file. You could then more easily send bulk emails (IMPORTANT: you must BCC those email addresses for obvious privacy reasons) to explain that they’ve recently applied to join the group but that they have not replied to the confirmation email. You’ll have to give specific information on how to proceed if they’re still interested in joining the group. Good luck!

What specific instructions will you give the person to confirm their subscription?

Even the Help doesn't say except to reply to an official request to confirm your subscription by replying to that email. Wouldn't it be better to resend the confirmation email?

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See /helpcenter/membersmanual/1/joining-groups/responding-to-a-confirm-your-subscription-message?single=true

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Frances

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On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 02:18 PM, Steve wrote:

I checked activity logs and found one member flagged as NC who appears to have subscribed and not received a confirmation email (maybe she subscribed on the website rather than via email?),

Steve,

They would have received a confirmation email, whether they asked to join the group or were invited directly by the group owner. When one subscribe “on the website” as you said, you basically send an email to the group’s owners requesting to join that group.

and another who hadn't confirmed her email address and yet had amended her profile. So, I'm confused. ?

This person likely belongs to at least one other group. When you belong to more than one group in groups.io and make modifications to your profile, the changes are made across all the groups to which you belong (except for some specific to each group like email delivery).

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I’m not sure I’d have the patience to follow up with over a thousand NC pending members. I would start with the most recent applications. Those NC who applied several months ago and haven’t contacted the group to inquire might not be that interested in joining. In the member list—in Admin—you could check all those NC members and download the checked ones to a .csv file. You could then more easily send bulk emails (IMPORTANT: you must BCC those email addresses for obvious privacy reasons) to explain that they’ve recently applied to join the group but that they have not replied to the confirmation email. You’ll have to give specific information on how to proceed if they’re still interested in joining the group. Good luck!

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Jeannette B.