On 06-27-2024 09:50, dancerone via groups.io wrote: My appreciation to all who have assisted me.
I will contact the support team and continue with them from here on out. Why has the elephant in the room never been mentioned? One obvious course of action/remedy is to sue the miscreant for libel. More effective, meaningful, totally independent of and cuts off any attempts to circumvent GIO's response. A cease and desist letter from a lawyer might even be sufficient to stop the behavior (although probably not). With 1500 members of your community there might even be a lawyer amongst them willing to take the case pro bono. Monetary damages and a court order should get her attention real quick. Art
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I meant to ask this earlier but forgot:
You¡¯re not in this group. Is someone passing these messages on to you? Can that person not take some action within the group, at least to the level of complaining about behaviour likely to lead to the closing of the group?
Otto
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On 27 Jun 2024, at 15:14, dancerone via groups.io <dancerone@...> wrote:
Otto~
The Colony is an active senior living community of 55+ older residents. 1500 residents
I would be appreciative if I can get the information where I can file a complaint, or whatever the process is to have this CC4U site looked into. Just this past week, the owner of this site allowed the humiliation of an 86 year old woman. This is what this site allows. Constant bullying. Residents are fed up. But the residents she bullies, are not her members. They are members of my site, TheColonyEmailers. So they have no recourse to defend themselves. The owner won't allow it.
Please provide me the info where I can take this issue for, hopefully, a resolve.
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My appreciation to all who have assisted me.
I will contact the support team and continue with them from here on out.
Thank you. This has helped quite a bit.
Have a great day and good 4th!
Brenda Sindorf
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Brenda,
In the Terms of Service
You agree to not use the Service to: - email or otherwise upload any content that
- (i) infringes any intellectual property or other proprietary rights of any party;
- (ii) you do not have a right to upload under any law or under contractual or fiduciary relationships;
- (iii) contains software viruses or any other computer code, files or programs designed to interrupt, destroy or limit the functionality of any computer software or hardware or telecommunications equipment;
- (iv) poses or creates a privacy or security risk to any person;
- (v) constitutes unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, promotional materials, commercial activities and/or sales, ¡°junk mail,¡± ¡°spam,¡± ¡°chain letters,¡± ¡°pyramid schemes,¡± ¡°contests,¡± ¡°sweepstakes,¡± or any other form of solicitation;
- (vi) is unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, tortious, excessively violent, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, pornographic, libelous, invasive of another¡¯s privacy, hateful racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable; or
- (vii) in the sole judgment of Groups.io, is objectionable or which restricts or inhibits any other person from using or enjoying the Service, or which may expose Groups.io or its users to any harm or liability of any type;
It seems to me that #6 -- threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, libelous -- would apply here, even if such behavior were directed to someone who's not in that group.
Also, is your group, TheColonyEmailers, a groups.io group?? If so, then it would seem that #7? -- objectionable or which restricts or inhibits any other person from using or enjoying the Service -- would also apply.
As others have said, send mail to [email protected] and include examples of the behavior(s) that you describe directed towards you and/or others.
From: "Frances" <frances@...>
To: "GroupManagersForum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2024 10:26:00 AM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Slanderous posting
Brenda,
It has been suggested that you contact support. The Terms oF Service says
Please contact us at [email protected] to report any violations of these Terms of Service or to pose any questions regarding this Terms of Service or the Service.
However note that the terms also says: User Disputes
"You agree that you are solely responsible for your interactions with any other user in connection with the Service and Groups.io will have no liability or responsibility with respect thereto. Groups.io reserves the right, but has no obligation, to become involved in any way with disputes between you and any other user of the Service." Read the whole document here. Quote the relevant bits to Support.
/static/tos
At the same time, you might try an additional way to back off. If yours is an organized 55 plus community, is there some organization like a condo or strata board of directors, or management company? ?Whether or not she is an owner / occupier of a unit in your community, they may do something since she is putting your community in disrepute.
I would also suggest encouraging others to complain as well.
Frances
PS I don't think we can do anything else for you.
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Help available from Groups.io help and GMF wiki.
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Brenda, It has been suggested that you contact support. The Terms oF Service says Please contact us at [email protected] to report any violations of these Terms of Service or to pose any questions regarding this Terms of Service or the Service. However note that the terms also says: User Disputes "You agree that you are solely responsible for your interactions with any other user in connection with the Service and Groups.io will have no liability or responsibility with respect thereto. Groups.io reserves the right, but has no obligation, to become involved in any way with disputes between you and any other user of the Service." Read the whole document here. Quote the relevant bits to Support. /static/tosAt the same time, you might try an additional way to back off. If yours is an organized 55 plus community, is there some organization like a condo or strata board of directors, or management company? ?Whether or not she is an owner / occupier of a unit in your community, they may do something since she is putting your community in disrepute. I would also suggest encouraging others to complain as well. Frances PS I don't think we can do anything else for you. -- Help available from Groups.io help and GMF wiki.
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Otto~
The Colony is an active senior living community of 55+ older residents. 1500 residents
I would be appreciative if I can get the information where I can file a complaint, or whatever the process is to have this CC4U site looked into. Just this past week, the owner of this site allowed the humiliation of an 86 year old woman. This is what this site allows. Constant bullying. Residents are fed up. But the residents she bullies, are not her members. They are members of my site, TheColonyEmailers. So they have no recourse to defend themselves. The owner won't allow it.
Please provide me the info where I can take this issue for, hopefully, a resolve.
Kindly,
Brenda Sindorf
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The group is actually called TheColonyCommunity4U. Took me a while to find it with the spaces!
Do you know what the ¡°Colony¡± is?
Otto
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On 27 Jun 2024, at 04:34, dancerone via groups.io <dancerone@...> wrote:
Hello~
The site is called. The Colony Community 4 U. A platform with members who post. Not a paid for site. Free account. This site has gotten out of control with bashing and trashing and bullying the residents who live in the community with emphasis on me mostly.
I understand the roadblock I have about anything that can be done. I find it a shame that she uses io.groups as her platform. I also own an io.groups Premium site that follows the io.groups Terms of Service and is well managed by my team, and we don't allow bullying or hateful remarks about the residents who live in our community.
Thanks all for you kindness and info.
It is what it is.
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In which case it¡¯s a design error to allow such a name to be used in the first place!
Otto
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On 27 Jun 2024, at 00:58, Pamela Tatt via groups.io <knittingpam@...> wrote:
Problem Solved!!
It was because the Title was too long!!!!
The title line on our databases include the name and address of a member who is running a collection (we are a charity group) and her address was quite long. In desperation, as I had tried everything else, I trimmed it down and once that was done I was able to download the file.
Sorry for taking up your time. I very much appreciate the ability to ask fellow group leaders for help.
Have a lovely day,
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In this case it was the group owner slandering someone from another group.?
-P.?
I recommend writing a message to Support and seeing if Mark would be willing to take a look into this and get the group owners taken away or given to somebody else. Because any group owner that slanders a member is definitely not a good thing.
It was the group owner who did the posting. And not the first time. Unfortunately, there seems to be nothing I can do, which is sad because this io.groups site should really be looked into. This site breaks many of the "Terms of Service" conditions.?
Thank you anyway for your help.
Kindly,
Brenda Sindorf
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Hello~
The site is called. The Colony Community 4 U. A platform with members who post. Not a paid for site. Free account. This site has gotten out of control with bashing and trashing and bullying the residents who live in the community with emphasis on me mostly.?
I understand the roadblock I have about anything that can be done. I find it a shame that she uses io.groups as her platform. I also own an io.groups Premium site that follows the io.groups Terms of Service and is well managed by my team, and we don't allow bullying or hateful remarks about the residents who live in our community.
Thanks all for you kindness and info.
It is what it is.
Brenda Sindorf
Owner: The Colony Emailers, Murrieta, Ca
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Yes. The owner of the group continuously calls me a liar and posts negative comments about me. Been going on for a very long time.??
Thank you.
Brenda
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We¡¯ve been running our Premium group for about six years with few mishaps. Today a reminder showed up in our messages that was not delivered to all members including those who have not muted that topic.?
? I tried editing the event and resending, but again only some members received that message ?
Any help is appreciated.?
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Hello!
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OK, forgive me however, I'm a tad confused ..... Are you commenting about their actual - non - site, for which is used as their "email connection", like a mailing list "service"?? Or are you stating, specifically, how the person from the website is mismanaging the email group?? If it's about their actual site, I would think some kind of "contact us" or "list of administrators" (or whatever) might be found there, with ways to contact if an issue arises.? Out of?curiosity, I tried to do a google search for anything with the name/title you provided, I found a few things, including a YT channel for the person you mentioned .... maybe start at one of those to see about who/how to contact in cases of violations and abuse?
If you are talking about their "group" (aka "mailing list") is being run, then yes, I'd be looking at the contact info for -- most likely it will go to Mark, I am guessing?
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If you are meaning something completely different than this .... my apologies.? ?Whatever/Whichever it is, I hope you are able to get it sorted out.
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Just to confirm...are you saying that the group owner said disparaging things about you?
From: "dancerone via groups.io" <dancerone@...>
To: "GroupManagersForum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2024 2:42:31 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Slanderous posting
It was the group owner who did the posting. And not the first time. Unfortunately, there seems to be nothing I can do, which is sad because this io.groups site should really be looked into. This site breaks many of the "Terms of Service" conditions.?
Thank you anyway for your help.
Kindly,
Brenda Sindorf
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On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 07:48 PM, Pamela Tatt wrote:
The title line on our databases include the name and address of a member who is running a collection (we are a charity group) and her address was quite long. ?In desperation, as I had tried everything else, I trimmed it down and once that was done I was able to download the file.
I'd suggest putting that information in the Description (or maybe Short Description?) box instead of the name/title area. ? --
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Re: Problem with screen/messages losing/missing data
#askmembers
Thanks Frances,
I've had a message from Mark saying he is pushing through a 'fix'
Thanks for you helpful suggestions,
Pamela
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Problem Solved!!
It was because the Title was too long!!!!
The title line on our databases include the name and address of a member who is running a collection (we are a charity group) and her address was quite long. ?In desperation, as I had tried everything else, I trimmed it down and once that was done I was able to download the file.
Sorry for taking up your time. ?I very much appreciate the ability to ask fellow group leaders for help.
Have a lovely day,
Pamela
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>It was the group owner who did the posting.
ABSOLUTELY report the owner and the group to [email protected] immediately. I assume you have screenshots of this behavior. You should provide them.
Pete
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Duane~
Correct. Thank you.
Brenda
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On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 12:16 PM, dancerone wrote:
I was slandered on an io.groups site
Actually, you would have been libeled, not slandered.? Written is libel, oral is slander. Duane --
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