p.s., it occurred to me that IO might be treating the main group as a subgroup. I had previously changed [email protected] to [email protected] and it is listed in the group site as the main group. Could IO be getting confused about this? Stan
On 2/16/2018 9:58 AM, Stan Gorodenski wrote: I asked one member of the yahoo group to try joining the IO group to see what happens (yesterday I sent a message to [email protected] to move the members to the new group but this has not been done yet). I asked him to send an email to join using the following address
[email protected]
The message below is what he got. He couldn't join. He said his confirmation email was rejected. Does anyone know what could have happened?
Stan
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Subject: email issue
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 09:43:09 -0700
From:
To: Stan Gorodenski <stanlep@...>
Stan,
My confirmation email was rejected. Tried forwarding it but your server rejected it for the .eml attachment. See below:
This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
[email protected]
host lb02.groups.io [173.255.221.194]
SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data:
510 5.1.1 Your email address,[I deleted this email address for confidentiality] is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email [email protected], or visit
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I asked one member of the yahoo group to try joining the IO group to see what happens (yesterday I sent a message to [email protected] to move the members to the new group but this has not been done yet). I asked him to send an email to join using the following address [email protected]The message below is what he got. He couldn't join. He said his confirmation email was rejected. Does anyone know what could have happened? Stan
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: email issue Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 09:43:09 -0700 From: To: Stan Gorodenski <stanlep@...> Stan, My confirmation email was rejected. Tried forwarding it but your server rejected it for the .eml attachment. See below: This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: [email protected] host lb02.groups.io [173.255.221.194] SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: 510 5.1.1 Your email address,[I deleted this email address for confidentiality] is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email [email protected], or visit
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I primarily use SeaMonkey as my internet browser. I have the most recent version but sometimes it does not display a web site correctly and I have to go to using FireFox.
When I created the new IO group I did it in SeaMonkey. I uploaded am image to take the place of the default Elephants image. It displayed in SeaMonkey. Then I did some more fiddling around with the settings and deleted it. When I re-uploaded it again, it would not display in SeaMonkey. I now have to go to FireFox to see it as well as all the images I uploaded for the subgroups I created. What did I do that caused it not to display in SeaMonkey? As an aside, how can I make a cover image the same size as the Elephants image?
Also, when I was exploring what all the options were for the uploaded cover image (by right clicking on the mouse) one of the options I clicked on wiped out the customized Windows background color. It reverted to the yukky gloomy default Windows background color. I had to go back and recreate the color I like. It also wiped out the custom cursors for the mouse. I had to go back and recreate them. I was surprised that IO would modify my Windows settings for features that are not part of the IO group. Does anyone know what happened here?
Stan
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Re: New Member message when joining a group
On Friday, February 16, 2018, 10:47:01 AM EST, Stan Gorodenski <stanlep@...> wrote:
Since we are on the subject, in YG's I get a message that pops up that a?
member wants to join. Then I can approve or disapproving their joining.
If I approve, then they go through one or more messages before I take
them out of moderation status. If I know who they are, I can take them
out of moderation immediately after I approved their joining the group.
Does IO work the same way? Specifically:
1. Does a message pop up that someone wants to join or does the
owner/moderator have to go to a specific place to find out if anyone
wants to join, and
2. Can the owner/moderator see any comments the person may have written
in the email message to join? Based on the the comments in the Beta
group discussion I would assume the answer to this is no.
Hi Stan, Yes to number 1 and there is no little note like on Yahoo Groups. So your assumption on number 2 is correct. Paul, Ohio, USA
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Re: Wiki - Status Badges on the Members List
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 07:47 am, Walter Underwood wrote:
The red ¡°B¡± for bouncing is one of the few features that is not accessible to color-blind admins. Maybe change that to an ¡°X¡±? I know at least one person with monochrome vision, and those would two colors of grey background.
That would be a good suggestion to make on beta@.? I know Mark is always interested in improvements for accessibility.
The ¡°NuM¡± definition should explain the number after it.
That's explained in the detailed information below that section under Override: new user moderated
Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list
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Frances said?? < Are you sending an email or posting from your
group site? If email, are you sending to the correct address?> I am sending an email from my email program, and yes it had the
correct address.
?
Shal said < Could it be in the group's Pending
list?>
Emails are not moderated
in my group because all members are known to me.
Norm said < This
is similar to what happened to me. Except I was asked to moderate the post. I
did moderate it, but it did not show up for days.
I went over my email
settings and changed my personal settings to default. They had been set to
override. Since then, two messages that I wrote before the change are still in
the ether. I'm going to unite the problem unless it happens
again.>
That
particular email never showed up, it is 27 hours
now.
My personal email setting is Default.
I re-sent it and it appeared a few minutes later, and
other emails from me to my group have all turned up in a timely manner.
It turns out though that I never received another email
that someone else sent to the group, I saw it on the homepage messages... so it
is quite possible there is a problem with my Windows Live Mail.
I am having a LOT of problems at the moment because my
neighbour had a satellite broadband dish installed last week, and it seems to
over-ride MY wireless network. While I am detecting her signal in my Network
Connections list, it is impossible for me to do ANYTHING on the internet
successfully... web pages take more than a minute to load...
trying to download my emails times out at 5 minutes without being able to
download anything... if I am watching something on YouTube, it has to buffer
about every 40 seconds... downloads and uploads stop in the middle.
Once her network disappears from
the list, everything returns to normal... so I guess that my delayed mail
could have been caused by this, I was trying to send it while her
connection was visible.
?
Thanks for the suggestions...
Win
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Re: Wiki - Status Badges on the Members List
The red ¡°B¡± for bouncing is one of the few features that is not accessible to color-blind admins. Maybe change that to an ¡°X¡±? I know at least one person with monochrome vision, and those would two colors of grey background.
Also, my browser shows a stray bit of color following the blue box on the definition for ¡°Owner¡±.
The ¡°NuM¡± definition should explain the number after it.
Otherwise, looks great. Very helpful.
wunder Walter Underwood wunder@...http://observer.wunderwood.org/??(my?blog)
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On Feb 16, 2018, at 1:18 AM, Shal Farley < shals2nd@...> wrote:
Hi Nancy, Ok, I've substantially fleshed it in, and changed its title to Status Badges on the Members List. I've also added a link to it in the Best Practices for Group Management section of the wiki home page. Everyone is encouraged to proof-read it to be sure I haven't messed up the descriptions or forgotten something of importance. It would be great if it were checked for consistency in fact and terminology with the Help page and with messages about these badges both here in GMF and in beta. Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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Re: New Member message when joining a group
Since we are on the subject, in YG's I get a message that pops up that a member wants to join. Then I can approve or disapproving their joining. If I approve, then they go through one or more messages before I take them out of moderation status. If I know who they are, I can take them out of moderation immediately after I approved their joining the group. Does IO work the same way? Specifically:
1. Does a message pop up that someone wants to join or does the owner/moderator have to go to a specific place to find out if anyone wants to join, and
2. Can the owner/moderator see any comments the person may have written in the email message to join? Based on the the comments in the Beta group discussion I would assume the answer to this is no.
Stan
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On 2/16/2018 7:14 AM, Duane wrote: It's not currently available, but is on the TODO list,
It was brought up again on beta@ a couple of days ago because of the many questions about it here, so Mark is certainly aware of the importance to some people. A simplified version may be added,
Duane
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To delete an individual photo, you have to view it, then select Edit below, then choose Delete.? When viewing the album, you have the option there to delete the entire album. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list
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I think we're seeing a pattern here and that this might be a new glitch in the system. Possibly there's some overload because of the deluge of groups? Norm, if you're the one who emailed me offlist about my response re the Help section (sorry, I forgot who it was), I was responding to the question about hashtag placement, not missing messages (and BTW I don't respond to questions offlist). I first noticed delayed messages in my group on Saturday afternoon and messaged Mark, who responded that it was due to several huge files being pushed through the system, which brought the email server down. He said all was fine after that, and it was, for my group. But since then, I've noticed a couple of people posting here about the same or similar problem. And yesterday, a member of my group posted a message and it never came through (and was also never logged). It just disappeared. I think this should be taken to support, possibly as some sort of group report.
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 4:39 AM, Southenders Admin <nnnlriep6@...> wrote: This is similar to what happened to me. Except I was asked to moderate the post. I did moderate it, but it did not show up for days.?
I went over my email settings and changed my personal settings to default. They had been set to override. Since then, two messages that I wrote before the change are still in the ether. I'm going to unite the problem unless it happens again.
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When I go to my test photo album, as an NEW owner, I don't see how I can delete my own photo.
What am I missing?? Thanks -?
Tamra
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Re: Database Row Ownership
#wiki
Duane,
Thanks for the fast reply.
So I can't do what I need at this point.? Basically allow moderators to change row ownership.?? Maybe add this and column level security to?the "maybe, possibly, hopefully a new future feature" list?
Thanks, Steve
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Re: Database Row Ownership
#wiki
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Re: Groups Home - Overview of groups and recent messages
You can see the groups you're subscribed to at / after you've signed in.? To see the recent posts, you can select All on the left menu there to be taken to /topics? It doesn't show the most recent snippets though.? That's been requested before, but I don't see it mentioned on the TODO list, https://trello.com/b/qu3WgzVq/beta Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list
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Database Row Ownership
#wiki
Hi ya,
Thinking about taking our roster and converting from excel to a .io database table.? I noticed one feature of allowing users to create rows, but edit the rows they create. That's perfect for us.? BUT I need to be able to create a row for our member and assign him as the row owner.? Can this be done.? I don't want our admin to have to manage all the?phone number/address changes, but also don't want one user to be able to change the info for another.?
Kind of related could it be possible later to make some columns editable by the row owner and others only by the moderators???
Thanks,
Steve
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This brings up a concern I have. I have a small group here that is functioning well, and am on the edge of moving a larger one. But I'm reading about the (understandably) longer wait times and how Mark is "the" one who has to do so much. But what happens when the load doubles or triples? Is there a backup staff for when the backlog gets ridiculously long? It seems way too much to depend on only one person - is that literally the case? If we move here to escape the ridiculous amount of down time at Yahoo Groups, will we run into the same thing as groups.io growth explodes? (BTW, I'm old enough to have used egroups way back when.... even then we were sad when Yahoo took it over.)
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Groups Home - Overview of groups and recent messages
Hi,
I am a long-term user/moderator/owner of Yahoo! Groups (and eGroups before that) and have just transferred one of my largest groups (nearly 1,500 members and 230,000 message). One of my users has pointed out that the quite useful overview of groups and messages
called "Groups Home" does not seem to be available in groups.io. This view is easily seen by looking at this link if you still have an active registration with Yahoo! Groups :-
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo
You could always reach this by clicking on "Groups Home" at the top of the list of groups in the left-hand column. In groups.io, it could be the view, you get when you click on "Your Groups", or an item in the drop down list called "Groups Home".? It was
useful for those that were members of only a few groups, some with low activity, and you could quickly check to see if there was any recent activity.
If I have missed a link that gets me the equivalent overview in groups.io, please let me know.
Regards
John Russell
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Re: New Member message when joining a group
It's not currently available, but is on the TODO list, https://trello.com/c/iSkDckWb/120-request-custom-information-when-joining-track-information-per-subscriber It was brought up again on beta@ a couple of days ago because of the many questions about it here, so Mark is certainly aware of the importance to some people.? A simplified version may be added, Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list
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saving updates to calendar
I¡¯m apparently doing something wrong. If I enter a recurring calendar event, then go back and edit it and use the UPDATE ALL option, only the event I am updating gets updated. Any suggestions? ? Thanks! ? Bob
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This is similar to what happened to me. Except I was asked to moderate the post. I did moderate it, but it did not show up for days.?
I went over my email settings and changed my personal settings to default. They had been set to override. Since then, two messages that I wrote before the change are still in the ether. I'm going to unite the problem unless it happens again.
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Norm
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Duane
Walter Underwood
John Russell