Nancy . . .


On Mon, 24 Jul 2023 13:31:48 +0000 (UTC), "Nancy P via groups.io"
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...is there any way to know what's happening?? I've had trouble off and on trying to get in to several groups this morning.?

When I wonder if a site is down, I use a link checker like this one:



(There are others.)


Donald



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On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 09:47 AM, Nancy P wrote:

morning.? This is a link I've had bookmarked for some time but, of course, when the site is down, this doesn't work either:

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Minor thing - the URL is https
My browser auto-corrected when I clicked on your link.

Frances
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On 07/24/2023 07:05, Malcolm Austen wrote:

On 24 July 2023 14:31:48 (+01:00), Nancy P via groups.io wrote:

...is there any way to know what's happening?? I've had trouble off and on trying to get in to several groups this morning.? This is a link I've had bookmarked for some time but, of course, when the site is down, this doesn't work either:

That site is, I believe, hosted quite separately. The footer says it is hosted by statuspage.io and that's the domain notices come from if you subscribe.

Of course, there might be doubt about the effectiveness of the detection of the status of the various subsystems perhaps?

Malcolm.

As Malcolm notes, the HTTP side and the SMTP side can be up or down independently. However, I have found this site:



generally useful for determining if websites are up.

You may also wish to subscribe to the since when things are down, Mark usually sends a note to that list.

Best,

Glenn

This just in on the beta list:

On 07/24/2023 07:45, Mark Fletcher wrote:

Hi All,

Around midnight last night Pacific time, the two machines that serve DNS records for Groups.io came under attack. DNS is the thing that takes a domain name, like 'groups.io', and tells you what machine on the Internet corresponds to it. When someone attacks a DNS server, the goal is to make it so that nobody can reach the associated website.

To blunt the attack, I upgraded both machines and also set some rules that would automatically block traffic from the attackers. In all, about 25k machines were used to send bogus requests to the servers, with something over 1M requests per second at peak. Traffic came back to normal levels and I went back to bed.

Unfortunately, the automatic blocking snared Gmail, Comcast, and perhaps others, such that they decided that we didn't have valid DNS records and blocked email from us. This lasted from around 3am Pacific Time until around 6:30am Pacific Time.

Users who had email blocked will not be put on bouncing status because of this.

I sincerely apologize for this. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Mark

Best,

Glenn

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On 24 July 2023 14:31:48 (+01:00), Nancy P via groups.io wrote:

...is there any way to know what's happening?? I've had trouble off and on trying to get in to several groups this morning.? This is a link I've had bookmarked for some time but, of course, when the site is down, this doesn't work either:

That site is, I believe, hosted quite separately. The footer says it is hosted by statuspage.io and that's the domain notices come from if you subscribe.

Of course, there might be doubt about the effectiveness of the detection of the status of the various subsystems perhaps?

Malcolm.

As Malcolm notes, the HTTP side and the SMTP side can be up or down independently. However, I have found this site:



generally useful for determining if websites are up.

You may also wish to subscribe to the since when things are down, Mark usually sends a note to that list.

Best,

Glenn

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On 24 July 2023 14:31:48 (+01:00), Nancy P via groups.io wrote:

...is there any way to know what's happening?? I've had trouble off and on trying to get in to several groups this morning.? This is a link I've had bookmarked for some time but, of course, when the site is down, this doesn't work either:

That site is, I believe, hosted quite separately. The footer says it is hosted by statuspage.io and that's the domain notices come from if you subscribe.

I am not aware of any down time lately and the last on the status link you posted was June 7th

So suspect its your system/ISP that may be the problem rather than groups.io

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 23 Jul 2023 at 22:11, KATHLEEN DESMAISONS wrote:

About the gmail refusal. If the owner of the gmail account authenticates it,
it goes through. ?We just tell our gmail people to be sure to authenticate

I got a bounce message from Google, but not for one of my posts. Seemed a bit
strange.


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About the gmail refusal. If the owner of the gmail account authenticates it, it goes through. ?We just tell our gmail people to be sure to authenticate?

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On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 04:06 PM, Allen Dyer wrote:

is there a way for a group sponsor to pay in advance for a 10 year subscription?

Sort of.? If you turn on the sponsorship setting, Settings > General - Allow Sponsorships, then they could click the green Sponsor This Group button on the home page.? There they'd enter the amount needed to cover the time period wanted.? (If you'd rather not have others contribute, you can turn sponsorship off afterward).? As the group comes up for renewal each year, the amount needed will be deducted from the balance.? Keep in mind that money in the sponsor account can only be used to pay for the group and there's no way to get it back if not used.

If you want to be able to access the money, you'd have to use Donations.? That has to be sent to someone as it comes in and they keep all the records.

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is there a way for a group sponsor to pay in advance for a 10 year subscription?

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On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 08:41 AM, Peter wrote:

We're at a loss as to what to do so, any advice will be gratefully received.

One thing that can get you labeled a spammer is when the mail server sending the message doesn't match a DNS lookup of the domain in its From: address. I've found that digests are substantially more likely to get delivered than individual emails, and I suspect that's why.?I'm not suggesting this will completely eliminate the occasional delivery problem but it's highly unlikely that a 500-level error will be thrown.

Honestly, to this point we've done nothing to refute Google's assertion that these messages "look like spam!"?To provide more helpful advice it would be nice to know exactly what was in the messages that GMail didn't deliver.?

Regards,
Bruce

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Hi Linda, all,

were you using the groups.io app, or really the browser, when you saw the unwanted behaviour (list scrolling forever)? I found that the member list you see under ?admin“ is never split into 20/50/100 entries but always scrolls continuously, contrary to the member list for regular users you get under ?directory“ where the setting works correctly. This is in the app only - in the browser, both the admin member list and the ?directory“ are always split according to the settings in your account

Kind regards
Thomas

On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 07:41 AM, Peter wrote:

We're at a loss as to what to do so, any advice will be gratefully received.

I've received that result 6 times over the years, most recently ~18 months ago.? For obvious reasons, Google isn't too specific on the exact cause of the bounce.? Unfortunately, I don't know of a way to narrow it down much.? It could be that the member has been marking messages from Groups.io as spam or there may be something within the message that it doesn't like.? Groups.io tends to pay fairly close attention to this, especially after a site change, in case the change results in problems.? I'd try contacting the person off-group to see if they can offer any additional clues.

Duane
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Hello,

We've recently sent two messages to one of our members whose emails are delivered via his Google account and on each occasion we received this:

gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com: 550 5.7.1 [66.175.222.12 12] Our system has detected that this message is likely unsolicited mail. To reduce the amount of spam sent to Gmail, this message has been blocked. Please visit https://support.google.com/mail/?p=UnsolicitedMessageError for more information. x14-20020a17090a8a8e00b0026800336358si2115315pjn.122 - gsmtp

We're at a loss as to what to do so, any advice will be gratefully received.