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Re: Not receiving notices of messages posted to group
#bouncedemails
On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 11:06 PM, Cyndi Law wrote:
mail.georgedell.com: 550 "JunkMail rejected - web01.groups.iogeorgedell.com mail is hosted by hostgator.com. Either the person who pays for hosting to hostgator persuades hostgator to whitelist groups.io IP-addresses listed in SPF: 66.175.222.12, 66.175.222.108, 45.79.227.220, 45.79.224.9, 45.79.224.7, 192.53.124.123, 173.255.243.56, 192.53.124.254 (good luck), or you vote with your feet: stop using georgedell.com email addresses for groups.io or altogether. Groups.io is not the only email you are missing. |
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Re: subgroup used for an event, registered people, now that event concluded I want to share messages with parent group and delete the subgroup
#subgroup
Something that would make subgroups a *lot* more useful would be to
have more than one level of nesting. A (very) concrete example: the National Assocation of Rocketry has a group, groups.nar.org. Each NAR local club has a subgroup; my local club is FLARE-Members@.... It would be very helpful if it were possible to have subgroups of FLARE-members for the club officers, for our safety committee, for our equipment committee.... |
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Re: subgroup used for an event, registered people, now that event concluded I want to share messages with parent group and delete the subgroup
#subgroup
On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 07:30 PM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote:
If you want to delete the private group, change its name to some nonsense first so you aren't locked out of a name for your future group.This only applies to main groups, not subgroups. Duane -- Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual. |
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Re: subgroup used for an event, registered people, now that event concluded I want to share messages with parent group and delete the subgroup
#subgroup
You said, "Looks like sub-groups won't be useful - as I had hoped - for temporary, private, attendee communication and resources for one-time events." I use a lot of sub-groups, and some of them are for "temporary, private, attendee communication and resources for one-time events." What I do is re-use the group for the next event, and use the wiki to list ALL the events, and links to the summary message if there is one, or just the name & date.? For instance, I have a public Conferences group, which has been used for quite a few different?meetings that some of our genealogy society might attend, and tell other interested folks about the sessions they attended, sales on products available during the conf., etc. You can see the group at?. When a new conference opens for registration, I just change the display name, update URLs etc. I made it because there were complaints in the main group about these conference discussions. I've done the same sort of thing with various study groups we've held, keeping track of them in the Wiki. Changing names and images is easy-peasy, and it's much easier to reuse a group than to delete and make new ones all the time. I don't echo the discussions in the main group because the point of a subgroup is that those who want to discuss there, will. Those who don't can ignore it. If they change their minds, and the group is public, they can always go back and read the discussions later. I would caution against copying private messages to make them public. Doing this might cause hard feelings. If you want to delete the private group, change its name to some nonsense first so you aren't locked out of a name for your future group.? Best, Valorie she/her. "Dwell on the beauty of life. Watch the stars, and see yourself running with them." -?Marcus Aurelius |
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Re: Not receiving notices of messages posted to group
#bouncedemails
On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 03:36 PM, Duane wrote:
Only thing I can think of is that people that are using it are marking messages as spam, resulting in the block.In this case, it's actually someone using a spamtrap address owned by spamcop to send things out.? Mark is aware of it, but can't do anything without further information that spamcop .? I'm sure he'll keep an eye on things to see if he can stumble across the culprit. Duane -- Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual. |
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Re: Allow groups.io messages to be more personal
I will try again. Possibly I did something wrong. -P.? On Wed, Jun 7, 2023, 5:49 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote: On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 04:42 PM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote: |
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Re: Allow groups.io messages to be more personal
On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 04:42 PM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:
when I set the tag field to blank, then update, the default?tag reappearsYou must have done something wrong.? I can also set it to blank on my test group. Duane -- Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual. |
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Re: Allow groups.io messages to be more personal
As I already said, when I set the tag field to blank, then update, the default?tag reappears. However, I've now set the tag field to a single blank, and that is accepted. It is good enough. -P. On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 5:23?PM Christos Psarras <christos@...> wrote:
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Re: Allow groups.io messages to be more personal
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOn 2023-06-07 15:12,
Peter S. Shenkin via groups.io wrote:
Be able to get rid of the tag. For my group, it?is totally unneeded. My group already sends out email as from "Peter Shenkin Music", so the tag is redundant.? You can get rid of the tag by setting it to blank, you must have forgotten to click on Update when you removed the tag text, I just tested it and you don't have to put a space, you can fully delete the tag text, but you must click on Update before it takes effect. Cheers, Christos |
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Re: Allow groups.io messages to be more personal
I don't mean seeing the From: in the original unformatted email. I mean the name associated with the email address that comes from the From: and is shown in the header of the email in every email client I have used. (Not that I"ve used them all.)? Example, "Peter Shenkin Music" in the following, taken from my gmail client:
I had the tag set to "Peter Shenkin Music: ", so in the index of incoming mail, the phrase appeared twice, once in the Sender column?and once in the Subject column.?See also the screen shot in the?attachment. Even the default setting of "[peter-shenkin-gigs]" was redundant and annoying. I now have the tag set to a single space, so I expect this workaround will suffice to remove the redundancy. -P. On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 4:32?PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote: On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 02:20 PM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote: |
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Re: Not receiving notices of messages posted to group
#bouncedemails
On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 03:06 PM, Cyndi Law wrote:
mail.georgedell.com: 550 "JunkMail rejected - web01.groups.io (mail01.groups.io) [66.175.222.12]:53336 is in an RBL on rbl.websitewelcome.com, see Blocked - seemail.georgedell.com is using spamcop.? Spamcop is blocking at least one of groups.io email servers, 66.175.222.12.? They seem to do this on a regular basis, without any obvious justification.? Only thing I can think of is that people that are using it are marking messages as spam, resulting in the block. Duane -- Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual. |
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Re: Allow groups.io messages to be more personal
On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 02:20 PM, Peter S. Shenkin wrote:
Be able to get rid of the tag.I have folks in some of my groups that are in 20 or more groups.? That 'tag' can be a lifesaver when they're getting loads of messages daily.? Some even set up rules using it so they have a folder for each group.? Not everyone has immediate access to the From: field, depending on how they've set up their email program/interface.? To me, that is too "in your face", so I don't show it. Duane -- Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual. |
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Re: Uncertain future for .io domains?
On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 02:08 PM, b&p wrote:
repatriate our individual groups' files to usA group owner can do that at any time, just export everything.? May not be a bad idea to do it at least once per year. Duane -- Lots of detailed information can be found in the Owners Manual and Members Manual. |
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Re: Allow groups.io messages to be more personal
Thanks for the response. I'll check out those links. I am not trying to hide the identity in outgoing emails. I would in fact mention it in my personal welcome message, but I'd like the message to be phrased in the first person by me. I suspect your links will allow me to do that. I just tried updating the tag field to make it not empty, but rather contain a single space character. The Update functionality then accepted it. So this might be an adequate solution to that problem. -P. On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 3:28?PM Frances <frances@...> wrote: Many of the notices are editable by you. You can also use all the formatting tools - colour, fonts, etc. to make your message stand out amidst the boilerplate that needs to be there to meet regulations. |
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Re: Allow groups.io messages to be more personal
Many of the notices are editable by you. You can also use all the formatting tools - colour, fonts, etc. to make your message stand out amidst the boilerplate that needs to be there to meet regulations.
For example -?/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-member-notices/welcome-notice?single=true and /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-member-notices/direct-add-notice?single=true And you can take out the Groups.io identity if you are prepared to go to Enterprise price point.? Frances -- Help available from Groups.io help and GMF wiki. ? |
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Allow groups.io messages to be more personal
I recently started a group ([email protected]) to send announcements about my gigs to interested parties. It's a "premium" group to which I've added a bunch of my friends. Several have?opted out because the canned welcome notice and a few other things make?the announcement group?look and sound so much like some kind of social-media or formal work-related site. I've been at pains to explain to some of my friends that neither the case, but I'd not have had to do this if the welcome message and other features could have been personalized.? The way I had been sending notices out was to simply send them from my personal email, adding the long list of recipients to the bcc: field each time. This is laborious and error prone, so I liked the idea of because of easy unsubscription and maintenance. Based on changes that Mark was able to make (see my recent postings to the beta group), I now have my group behaving the same way as my emails in most or all essentials; viz.:
None of the suggestions I am making would be appropriate for all groups; I am a member of a group where I find the tag inoffensive, but that group is a discussion group and people understand from the start that some 3rd-party infrastructure is involved. I would like to make my group look and feel as personal as the emails I used to send out, and IMO, there ought to be a way to do that. If anyone has workarounds for replacing the entire Welcome message with a personalized one or for eliminating the tag, I'd appreciate it. Thank you, -P.? |
Lena
Joe Pfeiffer
Duane
Valorie Zimmerman
Peter S. Shenkin
Christos Psarras
Frances