12 years ago the owner of our group went AWOL after appointing me a moderator with virtually no powers. (Cannot change the welcome message. Someone here had suggested to changethe Yahoo welcome message to send them to the IO group.)
After a few eMails ,Mark transferred everything over without any problems.
Mark's personal involvement is amazing.
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Arno
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Re: Instructions for Group Members?
I also explain in my group's welcome letter some of the differences between yahoo groups and (for former Y!G members) and how to login, etc.
Lisa,
? Once YG let [email protected]?become a moderator,the process was very smooth.? However I had created the group last July and didn't transfer until this January.? I already had a couple of hundred members who had joined the new group in anticipation of a YG? collapse and a move to ? What I didn't do and should have; was change the Welcome letter to reflect the transfer rather than what it had been telling new members that they were moderated and needed to explain why they wanted to join the group.? Only about 5-10% who hadn't been paying attention were confused by the Welcome letter, but it could have been avoided.? After the transfer, post an updated Welcome letter for new members who weren't from the old YG list.
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On Feb 9, 2018, at 10:25 AM, Paula <disi@...> wrote:
Lisa, our 19 year old YahooGroup just migrated to Groups.io. I was very nervous about how our members would react to the move (we're mostly older people), but it turned out my anxiety was for naught. It was an almost seamless transition and our members got the hang of things very quickly. I agree. It¡¯s transparent. Instructions will just make it sound scary and difficult. The only thing is explaining the password thing. But don¡¯t bring it up until someone asks. All that information up front will just deaden everyone's mind. Sharon ------ Sharon Villines, Washington, DC "As long as you have two or fewer, your ducks are always in a row." The Covert Comic
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Re: Instructions for Group Members?
Lisa,
? Once YG let [email protected]?become a moderator,the process was very smooth.? However I had created the group last July and didn't transfer until this January.? I already had a couple of hundred members who had joined the new group in anticipation of a YG? collapse and a move to groups.io? What I didn't do and should have; was change the Welcome letter to reflect the transfer rather than what it had been telling new members that they were moderated and needed to explain why they wanted to join the group.? Only about 5-10% who hadn't been paying attention were confused by the Welcome letter, but it could have been avoided.? After the transfer, post an updated Welcome letter for new members who weren't from the old YG list.
ken
"It has always seemed strange to me," said Doc. "The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success."? Steinbeck - Cannery Row
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On 2018-02-09 07:25, Paula wrote:
Lisa, our 19 year old YahooGroup just migrated to Groups.io.? I was very nervous about how our members would react to the move (we're mostly older people), but it turned out my anxiety was for naught.? It was an almost seamless transition and our members got the hang of things very quickly.
It helped that Yahoo's problems hastened the move; we rely heavily on database tables and files and the fact that we couldn't access them for much of the last month or so helped give them the oomph they needed.? I didn't have anything formal written, just a few posts here and then letting them know what was coming.
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On Friday, February 9, 2018, 10:13:35 AM EST, Barb M <barbm68@...> wrote:
"I'm thinking I may end up just transferring members and rebuilding the Files and Photos after the fact." =============================
May I suggest that you transfer everything that you can and then rebuild by adding or deleteing. That way you will have less work in downloading and transferring. I've read that message transfer & file transfer is spotty when taken from Verizon/Yahoo. You will also have less risk in Verizon/Yahoo getting worse.
Using PG Offline, it took me 2 or 3 tries to get files and even then I had to go back and manually download some. My message count was correct as were my photos & links. Of course YMMV and you will have to do some checking.
A month ago I downloaded a group of 600 members with 40,000+ messages and everything worked perfect, then Verizon/Yahoo's service kicked in and now everything seems to be in limbo, depending on how you hold your mouth. This last refers to a good friend's take on fishing, "Getting a lot of bites depends on how you hold your mouth."?
On Friday, February 9, 2018, 10:13:35 AM EST, Barb M <barbm68@...> wrote:
"I'm thinking I may end up just transferring members and rebuilding the Files and Photos after the fact."
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Lisa, our 19 year old YahooGroup just migrated to Groups.io.? I was very nervous about how our members would react to the move (we're mostly older people), but it turned out my anxiety was for naught.? It was an almost seamless transition and our members got the hang of things very quickly.
It helped that Yahoo's problems hastened the move; we rely heavily on database tables and files and the fact that we couldn't access them for much of the last month or so helped give them the oomph they needed.? I didn't have anything formal written, just a few posts here and then letting them know what was coming.
--Paula
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On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 07:12 am, <lfranklinp2p@...> wrote:
I am a group manager in yahoo and also a member of this corresponding forum in yahoo.? For all of the reasons that have been discussed, we are considering moving our group to io.? I am wondering if anyone has written information for their old (yahoo) group about how to use groups.io in anticipation of the transfer?? Is that something you would be able to share with me as an example?
We have members of our yahoo group who have been with us for 20 years, so making this scale of change is a BIG DEAL!
Any help appreciated!
Lisa
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Mark has specifically asked not to try to send the invites repeatedly because they're going through although it looks like they're not. He is drowning in them.
On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 7:04 AM, Barb M <barbm68@...> wrote: Have you tried repeatedly?? I do use the Yahoo Invitation process and in the past few weeks, while all the rest of YG has been messed up, that has, too.? It always takes me at least 2 tries to get an invitation out, but they have gone out eventually when I repeated it several times.? The one thing that still has not worked (since Jan 27) is the membership activity log.? I only know people have gotten invites and accepted when they appear on the membership list.? "Files" come and go.? I'm trying to update our content in preparation for transfer and it's not easy when YG isn't functioning very well.? I'm thinking I may end up just transferring members and rebuilding the Files and Photos after the fact.
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Transferring a IO group to anther IO group
Is there a way to transfer a IO group to another IO group?
Thanks
Joe
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Have you tried repeatedly? I do use the Yahoo Invitation process and in the past few weeks, while all the rest of YG has been messed up, that has, too. It always takes me at least 2 tries to get an invitation out, but they have gone out eventually when I repeated it several times. The one thing that still has not worked (since Jan 27) is the membership activity log. I only know people have gotten invites and accepted when they appear on the membership list. "Files" come and go. I'm trying to update our content in preparation for transfer and it's not easy when YG isn't functioning very well. I'm thinking I may end up just transferring members and rebuilding the Files and Photos after the fact.
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Instructions for Group Members?
I am a group manager in yahoo and also a member of this corresponding forum in yahoo.? For all of the reasons that have been discussed, we are considering moving our group to io.? I am wondering if anyone has written information for their old (yahoo) group about how to use groups.io in anticipation of the transfer?? Is that something you would be able to share with me as an example?
We have members of our yahoo group who have been with us for 20 years, so making this scale of change is a BIG DEAL!
Any help appreciated!
Lisa
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Great, many thanks Jean?and Duane.
After close to 10 years of moderating a big Yahoo group, Groups.io is gonna be a real pleasure.? After getting over the transition!? ;-)(
Milt
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Sharon, I wrote: Normalize HTML Emails is similar, but gentler. It keeps simple
formatting like italic and bold, but removes most other text
formatting (font family, size, color).
I don't recall if it passes or removes embedded images. The Normalize HTML setting does allow inline images through, had to test it to be sure. There is a separate "Attachments" setting which can be used to strip attachments, including inline images. But doing that can leave an empty box where the image had been. Thunderbird shows it that way, but Groups.io's Messages section does not. Shal
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Numbering of Transferred Messages
When messages are transferred, they appear to have the same dates but to have the numbers changed. Right? Any reason why?
If two lists are combined, what happens to the numbers. Are messages always sorted by date so the number doesn¡¯t matter? We would like to combine 2 large lists and a couple of smaller lists.
Sharon
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Sharon Villines, Washington DC
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Duane
I tried it and it did worked. It opened with Excel
Thanks
Joe
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What are the pros and cons of Integration? ? Don
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I think this is likely the case when yahoo claims an error while
loading the content. One of my invites went through before the
situation cleared up at least one time.
Cacky
On 2/8/2018 9:11 AM, debbie wrote:
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 This is
what Mark wrote yesterday in the beta group:
" There's a large backlog of group transfer requests, and I'm
trying to work through them. But what's difficult at the moment
is that I'm getting a ton of duplicated invites to Yahoo Groups
(I have 442 sitting in my mail queue at the moment). Apparently
people are getting errors from Yahoo when submitting invite
requests, and then submitting invites again, over and over. If
you get an error, most likely the invite still went through and
you do not need to submit an invite again. "
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I have had that problem repeatedly on a group I still have on
yahoo.? Usually it lasts for 3 days, and then seems to sort itself
out. I just keep going back and trying to send the invite, and
eventually it seems to get through. Just another one of the ever
growing list of hiccups on yahoo.
Cacky
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Debbie,
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Last night and again
this morning I tried sending an invitation to the [email protected] from my Yahoo Group that I
want to transfer to groups.io..
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I received the
following message response from Yahoo Groups.
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¡°Sorry, an error
occurred while loading the content.¡±
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I tried sending
invitations to one of my other email accounts and
received the same response as the one in red above.
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I sent an email to the GroupManagersForum
earlier today but have not received a response.
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My question was can I request an invitation
from in any other way other than through the standard
invitation process via Yahoo Groups.
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Al
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It¡¯s a page. I did find the number for the page and it won¡¯t let me use that, either. Tammi
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Re: Totally private group?
I think the guidelines could be private, or public, or for that matter, nonexistent. They could, for example, say "This is a completely private group and all content is accessible only to approved and current members," which could reasonably be made public. I think it would be up to the group owner as to whether the guidelines document is to be public or private.
On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote: Yes, you can definitely do that.? You can set it for "Not listed in the directory, private archives".? You'd want to make sure that all members must be approved to join.? If you set up a Group Guidelines notice, you'd also need to set that so only group members could see it.? You may need to go to some of the other sections of the Settings page to make sure nothing is set for public view, Calendar and Wiki come to mind.
Duane
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Re: Moving database from one IO group to another
The export from group.io is a CSV file.? When saving the export, change or add the extension .csv to the file, then open it with Excel.? The first line has the column headings, followed by one line for each entry.? I use it regularly.
Duane
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Milt Baker
Shal Farley
Don Grass
Tammi McKinley, CPM
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