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Re: Legacy Group pricing

 

On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 08:14 AM, Wayne (Reed) Knazek wrote:
1). Was the 100 member rule added after we joined? And therefore we
were grandfathered in. But didn't know it?
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2). If we did have to upgrade, were we supposed to get a lower price
if we joined before that rule went into effect?
Have a look at /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/25069.? That shows when things changed and what applies to various groups.? You can look at the Billing/Upgrade page of the group in question to see Your Group Features that may be Legacy Enabled.? That means you'd keep them if you downgrade to Basic.? Unless it specifically gives a number for Members: (not shown on older groups), you have no limit.

Duane
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Re: Legacy Group pricing

Wayne (Reed) Knazek
 

I have 2 questions . . .

I think I messed up, and it's costing us!

When we joined about a year and a half ago, it was
because YahooGroops went belly up.

I did a lot of research to find a new home for our group.
And Groups.io was highly recommended by some of our
members.

I really don't recall there being a limit to members for a free
acct. at that time.? We started the group with over 100 members!
But there could have been.

Then one day in February, one of our owners emailed me and said . . .
We have a problem! We're not allowed to have more than 100 members
in our free account! And we have grown to 200.?

We were afraid we'd one day find out our group got shut down for
violating the rules, and immediately paid $220 for a year's upgrade.

Our group isn't monetized. And only 2 of us are paying the fee.

1). Was the 100 member rule added after we joined? And therefore we
were grandfathered in. But didn't know it?

2). If we did have to upgrade, were we supposed to get a lower price
if we joined before that rule went into effect?

?Wayne? The MidKar Group


Re: Legacy Group pricing

 

James, not an answer to your question - you got it already.

But there are ways you can get help from your group to help defray the costs.
See?/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/using-the-sponsorship-feature-to-defray-groups

There is also the Donation feature for premium and enterprise groups.
/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/taking-donations-and-reviewing-payment-activity

Frances

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Re: Legacy Group pricing

 

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 03:20 PM, James Small wrote:
Is it possible to get the legacy price of $110 for the premium level
Only if its been premium continuously since the move.? Any groups upgraded to Premium now, even if they were once and downgraded to Basic, will pay the current price ($220/yr).

Duane
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Legacy Group pricing

James Small
 

I am the owner of the amateur astronomy group called MSRAL
We were part of the yahoo groups for more than 25 years.
When we migrated to Groups.io, I didn't establish the pricing...
Is it possible to get the legacy price of $110 for the premium level like I do with the Slasdialogs group?
You can send an email to me about it if you want.
Thanks for your time and consideration.
Jim Small
jrsmall at earthlink.net


Re: member cannot log in

 

A passing possible explanation: I've had similar problems, not with groups.io, when I managed to enter invisible non-printing characters into an address that was subsequently stored in my browser cache. Drove me crazy until I happened to view the address in hex mode in Emacs. Served me right for trying to get fancy with a script. Now, one of my first suggestions whenever something is acting strange in a browser is to clear the cache and re-enter.
Best, Marv


Re: member cannot log in

 
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You may want to remind your member that logging ?in through requesting a link is a standard way of getting to your group homepage. Clicking on the emailed link logs you in for 30 days on that device and that browser. It relies on cookies and auto-renews for 30 days when you visit the site. See?the help page:

Frances
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Re: member cannot log in

 

Thank you Francis and Bruce for your replies.? Sorry for not responding earlier but it took a while to get this resolved.
I shared your suggestions with the member but he indicated that these did not work for him.

We mutually agreed to try removing and then re-adding him.? At first he indicated that even that didn't help, but then he wrote:
"Not really sure what fixed it but things started working all of a sudden this morning after I followed request to request a login code."
So I'm not sure what made things right, but he can now log-in again.

Peter


Re: "Mask addresses in archive" not masking the munged addresses?

 

Christos,

Duane, what I mean is that the GIO-munged address is allowed to
fully-show in the quoted text ...
There's an exclusion from masking addresses in the groups.io domain. Because those are (were) never user addresses. This predates the munging of addresses for DMARC.

So it appears that's a loophole of sorts, I'd say the exclusion should be modified to recognize munged format and mask them accordingly.

Shal
(if this has been addressed in beta forgive me, as I've not been reading those carefully).


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Re: new member notification

Wayne (Reed) Knazek
 

Thank you Frances and Andy! I apologize for my senior moment! LOL

I missed that member notification tab when looking for the welcome message.
Apparently I knew about it initially because I added a personal message to it
when we first started the group.

Your help is appreciated! Wayne


On Sunday, June 5, 2022, 12:38:56 PM EDT, Andy Wedge <andy_wedge@...> wrote:


On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 05:23 PM, Wayne (Reed) Knazek wrote:
When someone subscribes to your group, do they receive an email notification that they are now subscribed?

If so, is it possible to edit what the notification says? As in, can text be added to it?

Yes, they will receive a standard Groups.io boilerplate message which you can customise but cannot stop (it's a legal requirement in some jurisdictions). They will also receive a Welcome member notice if you have defined one (and this can say what you want). There are different Member Notice types for different events and these are described in the Owner's Manual as /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-member-notices.

And if so . . . . where do I find what that text is presently?
Go to your Admin menu and the click on Invite. You will see the standard note and as you type your custom text, you will see where it fits in.

Regards
Andy


Re: new member notification

 

On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 12:23 PM, Wayne (Reed) Knazek wrote:
When someone subscribes to your group, do they receive an email notification that they are now subscribed?

If so, is it possible to edit what the notification says? As in, can text be added to it?

And if so . . . . where do I find what that text is presently?
There is a canned welcome message to unrestricted groups or to a member approved for a restricted group.
But you can edit that message - in Admin, Settings, Member Notices tab.
See?/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-member-notices/welcome-notice

If you haven't done so already, you may want to customize all your messages here, including the invitation message.
You cannot take out the text already there but you can use all the formatting tools to improve visibility of your text. Be sure to save at the bottom.

See also: ?/helpcenter/gettingstarted/1/step-5-create-a-group-guidelines-notice

Frances

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Re: new member notification

 

On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 05:23 PM, Wayne (Reed) Knazek wrote:
When someone subscribes to your group, do they receive an email notification that they are now subscribed?

If so, is it possible to edit what the notification says? As in, can text be added to it?

Yes, they will receive a standard Groups.io boilerplate message which you can customise but cannot stop (it's a legal requirement in some jurisdictions). They will also receive a Welcome member notice if you have defined one (and this can say what you want). There are different Member Notice types for different events and these are described in the Owner's Manual as /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-member-notices.

And if so . . . . where do I find what that text is presently?
Go to your Admin menu and the click on Invite. You will see the standard note and as you type your custom text, you will see where it fits in.

Regards
Andy


new member notification

Wayne (Reed) Knazek
 

When someone subscribes to your group, do they receive an email notification that they are now subscribed?

If so, is it possible to edit what the notification says? As in, can text be added to it?

And if so . . . . where do I find what that text is presently?

Thanks, Wayne MidKar Group


Re: Trouble with member trying to get back on a group with outlook.com

 

Andy's point is important though - the member needn't have created a new account.

"If she wants to change her GMail address to an Outrlook address, there should be no need 'to join again'. ?Simply ask her to login with her GMail address and then view her account details and in the Login tab, change the email address. An email will be sent by Groups.io to the new address and she will need to respond to that. Once that is done, Groups.io will transfer all her subscription settings to the new address. ?This is described in the Member's Manual at /helpcenter/membersmanual/1/understanding-groups-io-accounts/setting-account-preferences-and-viewing-account-information?

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Re: Trouble with member trying to get back on a group with outlook.com

 

On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 07:02 PM, Sugar wrote:
I don't know. groups io just took several hours to approv her, or to give out the notification
Sounds to me like a bad case of impatience for you and the member.? Lots of things can affect the time it takes to get an account set up and working.

Duane
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Re: Trouble with member trying to get back on a group with outlook.com

 

Hi Donald
I don't know. groups io just took several hours to approv her, or to give out the notification
I am still getting messages from groups io a bit later than usual
Thanks
Sugar

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Donald Hellen
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2022 3:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Trouble with member trying to get back on a group with outlook.com

What was the problem?

Donald

On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 12:21:44 -0700, "Sugar" <sugarsyl71@...> wrote:

The issue with that member with outlook.com has been resolved


Re: Trouble with member trying to get back on a group with outlook.com

 

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Hi

I honestly don¡¯t know what happened.

All of a sudden she was on

Groups io just took a couple of hours

Thank you

Sugar

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Christos Psarras
Sent: Saturday, June 4, 2022 4:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Trouble with member trying to get back on a group with outlook.com

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The issue with that member with outlook.com has been resolved

Telling us what the underlying problem was would be much more useful than just saying it's resolved.? It could help someone else in the future.

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Yes, please tell us, as it also helps the ones who replied with suggestions so they know which one worked.

Cheers,
Christos


Re: Trouble with member trying to get back on a group with outlook.com

 

What was the problem?

Donald

On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 12:21:44 -0700, "Sugar" <sugarsyl71@...> wrote:

The issue with that member with outlook.com has been resolved


Re: Trouble with member trying to get back on a group with outlook.com

 


The issue with that member with outlook.com has been resolved
Telling us what the underlying problem was would be much more useful than just saying it's resolved.? It could help someone else in the future.
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Yes, please tell us, as it also helps the ones who replied with suggestions so they know which one worked.

Cheers,
Christos


Re: Trouble with member trying to get back on a group with outlook.com

 

On Sat, Jun 4, 2022 at 04:56 PM, Sugar wrote:
The issue with that member with outlook.com has been resolved
Telling us what the underlying problem was would be much more useful than just saying it's resolved.? It could help someone else in the future.

Duane
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