On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 11:27 PM, Christos Psarras wrote:

Oh, sorry, I should have made it clear I'm referring to users who get
individual emails, and who also want to reply to the sender using their
email client (as the HTML footer link does), not by going online

In that case I don't see what the problem is. If you want to reply to an individual email, you click "reply" in your e-mail-interface-thingy. What would you need a link for?

groetjes/?is, Ronaldo

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 07:21 PM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:

I can't seem to find the switches to allow the public to view the archive

If it's set to Private, you can't change it back to public.? Otherwise it's part of Settings > Privacy > Visibility.

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I can't seem to find the switches to allow the public to view the archive even though i've set the group to Announcement
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Oh, sorry, I should have made it clear I'm referring to users who get individual emails, and who also want to reply to the sender using their email client (as the HTML footer link does), not by going online and doing it that way like what you're doing.

Cheers,
Christos

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>>> ... for example:

LOL, forgot that if I include the footers with the begin & end delimiters inside the message they get removed, duhh ... but in the example below they were

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Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group.
View/Reply Online (#289):
Mute This Topic: /mt/907....492
Group Owner: [email protected]
Unsubscribe: [ch...@..]
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Cheers,
Christos

Hmm, I retested just to make sure I didn't miss something and no, it doesn't adjust the body to HTML'ed plain text, and the footer sent is identical to the one sent if only the Plain Text option was checked.? As a matter of fact, having both checked or just PlainText checked only results in the same exact text-formatted message body & footers, for example:

*BOLD variable-width Text*

Fixed-width Text

Bye.



.

So apparently it's missing the "two flags" combo then and sends only the plain-text version of both the body and footers.

Cheers,
Christos

On 2022-04-26 21:42, Duane via groups.io wrote:

On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 05:57 PM, Christos Psarras wrote:

Maybe it's wording but only one of those should be allowed to be selected at a time

I believe both are allowed intentionally.? Folks wanted Plain Text Only groups, but wanted Reply To Sender in the footer.? (Normalize html was added later to accomplish about the same thing.)? When both are checked, it's supposed to convert incoming to plain text, but send as html, so the html type footer gets used.? If that's not what it does, then there's a problem.

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On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 10:07 PM, Christos Psarras wrote:

Hi folks,

I don't remember this option going away but I just noticed it today when I got
a text-based email

I'm not sure what you mean. At the bottom of the message I see a "reply to this message" link. Once I clicked it (and maybe composed an answer), I can click "private" on the lower right and then send the message by clicking on the lower left button. [but then I am on digest]

groetjes/?is, Ronaldo

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Hmm, I retested just to make sure I didn't miss something and no, it doesn't adjust the body to HTML'ed plain text, and the footer sent is identical to the one sent if only the Plain Text option was checked.? As a matter of fact, having both checked or just PlainText checked only results in the same exact text-formatted message body & footers, for example:

*BOLD variable-width Text*

Fixed-width Text

Bye.



.

So apparently it's missing the "two flags" combo then and sends only the plain-text version of both the body and footers.

Cheers,
Christos

On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 05:57 PM, Christos Psarras wrote:

Maybe it's wording but only one of those should be allowed to be selected at a time

I believe both are allowed intentionally.? Folks wanted Plain Text Only groups, but wanted Reply To Sender in the footer.? (Normalize html was added later to accomplish about the same thing.)? When both are checked, it's supposed to convert incoming to plain text, but send as html, so the html type footer gets used.? If that's not what it does, then there's a problem.

Duane
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On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 05:57 PM, Christos Psarras wrote:

Maybe it's wording but only one of those should be allowed to be selected at a time

I believe both are allowed intentionally.? Folks wanted Plain Text Only groups, but wanted Reply To Sender in the footer.? (Normalize html was added later to accomplish about the same thing.)? When both are checked, it's supposed to convert incoming to plain text, but send as html, so the html type footer gets used.? If that's not what it does, then there's a problem.

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Well it does turn out that if a group checks TextOnly in MessagePolicies, there is no ReplyToSender footer link included now, so in essence, a text-based email group is missing out on some functionality not really directly-related to HTML or plain text content.

The other weird thing that I discovered while testing this and possible combos, using info provided in the manual, you are allowed setting this particular combo which seems conflicting at the very least:



Maybe it's wording but only one of those should be allowed to be selected at a time, clicking the unchecked one should check that and clear the other.

Turns out when both are selected the plain text wins.? I'll post it on beta.

Cheers,
Christos

On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 03:07 PM, Christos Psarras wrote:

I don't remember this option going away

To the best of my recollection, it's never been there for plain text messages.? It's not shown on the wiki page.

Duane
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Hi folks,

I don't remember this option going away but I just noticed it today when I got a text-based email (and footers) on beta ( ) and wanted to privately contact the poster, when I went to the text footers that link wasn't there. I'm sure Mark hasn't set the "Remove Other Reply options" setting as the "Reply To Sender" option is there on the HTML footers, so is this possibly a function of some per-user setting, by design (hey, if you use text you just have to do with less options-this included- and have do it though online instead), or a "code omission"? (bug)

I do get that design-wise not all the HTML-footers links can appear on the text ones, but I thought the "Reply To Sender" would be one of the important ones which would appear on both, and I also don't remember a discussion about removing it. (although that remembering part doesn't mean much :)

Cheers,
Christos

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Shal,

It isn't clear how or why LAurence noticed the string

The string becomes apparent if one highlights it or the area surrounding it or did Ctrl+A to copy and paste the message, I've become aware of it myself doing the same but never thought about it any further.

Welcome back BTW.

Cheers,
Christos

Thank you,
Yes that explains it. I will update my members that asked. I just saw it as Morse without thinking.
Yes using HTML format.
The reason it's come up is it's white text on a white background - until you start using dark mode and it's now white text on a black background, so people are noticing it.
I've used dark mode since it was available.
Hopefully that's out it to bed now.
Thanks all.
Martyn.

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25 Apr 2022 07:13:01 Shal Farley <shals2nd@...>:

Joe,

It seems *extremely* unlikely that the pattern was chosen in reference
to nonlinear programming.

It didn't. It is just a sequence of characters chosen as unlikely to be found in the body of a message sent to Groups.io. Martyn's assertions of meaningfulness notwithstanding. Mark could have chosen a longer or more random string, but there never has been a reason to bother.

This topic was niggling at my memory and I found it. Seven years ago someone noticed the text and posted its Morse translation in beta - in an unrelated topic.


It isn't clear how or why LAurence noticed the string. Maybe he (and maybe Martyn) uses an email client that displays HTML formatted messages in plain text. In an ordinary email client that string would be invisible, being formatted to be invisible (small & white):

<div width="1" style="color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div>

Shal


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It seems *extremely* unlikely that the pattern was chosen in reference
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On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 05:40:46 -0700, "Duane" <txpigeon@...> wrote:

The site uses javascript, so I'd concentrate in that area. Troubleshooting your system is beyond the scope of this group.

I have some browser add-ins that sometimes break a website. While I won't go
into an extensive reply, since that's not what the group is here for, these
add-ins have settings you can check on a per-site basis. Two days ago I was
having problems with a website where friends of mine did not have any trouble. I
disabled an ad blocker and that didn't help. I then disabled a privacy add-in
and then had full access to the website.

So you can play with settings on browser add-ins but I first discovered that it
was a browser add-in issue by installing another web browser and I added no
add-ins. I was able to correctly see the website. I went back to my regular
browser and then started disabling things and found the source of the problem.

Look for add-ins that you added, or maybe are part of your malware protection,
ad blockers, or privacy-related add-ins.

Donald


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Thanks. That took care of it. The drop-down went down beyond the browser window.
Once I did that, it worked.

I think that could be made unnecessary and the filters change as you check and
uncheck things but that will work for me.

Donald


On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 13:09:19 -0700, "Duane" <txpigeon@...> wrote:

You have to go to the bottom of the filter list and click Apply.

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On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 07:30 PM, Ronald Vargo wrote:

Is there a way to schedule and unschedule activities on the calendar without sending out a group notification?

In addition to what Duane and Bruce have said, you could set the 'No email' attribute on the calendar related hashtags. Messages would then be posted to the archive but not emailed to members.

Regards
Andty

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 02:30 PM, Ronald Vargo wrote:

Is there a way to schedule and unschedule activities on the calendar without sending out a group notification?

Yes.

When you set up a calendar event:
1. Don't set up any reminders,
2. Don't click on the "Send notice to the group when event happens" checkbox, and
3. Don't click the "Add event and invite group" button. Just click on "Add event."

When you delete an event, a dialog box will pop up to confirm the deletion. UNcheck the "Send notice to group" checkbox before confirming.

Of course, you can also moderate the associated hashtags, as Duane suggested. I find this latter option to be handy, especially for #cal-cancelled; as it gives me an opportunity to edit the outgoing notice and provide some explanation as to?why the event didn't happen.

Regards,
Bruce

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On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 03:07 PM, Donald Hellen wrote:

I went to the member list, clicked on filter, checked the box next to
moderators, then clicked outside the drop-down filter list

You have to go to the bottom of the filter list and click Apply.

Duane
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