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Re: Yahoo Downage

J_Catlady
 

Problem is these yahoo die-hards don't even realize messages are missing etc...

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Sharon Villines <sharon@...> wrote:
I¡¯m trying to convince my organization to transfer all their lists to Groups.io. Probably for reasons of stasis they are reluctant.? What revives interest is when Yahoo messes up.

3 days with no email and then messages appear not in chronological order. Not clear we have all of them.

Does anyone know what happened?





Sharon
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Sharon Villines, Washington, DC
"As long as you have two or fewer, your ducks are always in a row."? The Covert Comic









Yahoo Downage

 

I¡¯m trying to convince my organization to transfer all their lists to Groups.io. Probably for reasons of stasis they are reluctant. What revives interest is when Yahoo messes up.

3 days with no email and then messages appear not in chronological order. Not clear we have all of them.

Does anyone know what happened?





Sharon
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Sharon Villines, Washington, DC
"As long as you have two or fewer, your ducks are always in a row." The Covert Comic


Re: We've moved! Now I have some questions

debbie
 





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On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
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There has been some discussion and requests for this on beta@, and (and possibly others.)? Both are now moderated, but you can still add comments if they're approved.? I don't see anything about it on yet, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Mark isn't aware/working on it.

Duane
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Thanks, Duane


What is a subgroup

 

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Hello again,

Another basic question - what is a subgroup and what are pros/cons vs having a totally separate group?? I do have a couple groups that are somewhat related, so I wonder if it might be better to set up as a subgroup going forward.

Thanks,

Barb


Re: Email got changed in my profile at GroupsIO webpage

 

Thank you, I was able to do that.? Is there some way simply to have a secondary email on my primary account, I don't want a separate one for the Gmail account.? Thanks again!
Barb


Re: Email got changed in my profile at GroupsIO webpage

 

It sounds to me like you need to log out of the 2nd account and sign in with the first.? Click on your name in the upper right corner on the blue bar and select Logout, then select Login and use the 1st account.

Duane


Re: No email bouncers

 

I have member that was transferred from Y to G, and contacted me through my personal email to tell me; "- My ¡®reply¡¯ message below was rejected by the receiving server." This person is in the members lists, no bounce symbol, does not have a Y address, and nothing unusual when looking at their membership information. I changed their email delivery to All Messages from Full Featured Digest, and maybe that will make a difference.

Don


Email got changed in my profile at GroupsIO webpage

 

Hi,

I am new to Groups.io, like most here I am trying to set up to move my groups over from YahooGroups.? I am not savvy about this stuff, and I think I have already screwed something up.

I set up my new groups under this email, babmay11@ [isp1],?which is the email I want to use for every thing.? I did a test to subscribe my secondary email which is babmay11@ [isp2].? It did do that, but now when I am trying to go back to the webpage, it is using my gmail account as the ID email, and I can't get to the groups I set up under the babmay11@ [isp1] email.? HELP!

Thanks,

Barb B

[Moderator edited for clarity and to remove email addresses]


Re: Member Added Repeatedly #membership

J_Catlady
 

Are you sure it's not because she's been marking messages as spam and getting removed automatically, then clicking on the resubscribe link? What do the actual log entries say?

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 5:50 AM, Paul, Ohio, USA via Groups.Io <pwberndt@...> wrote:
Hi Norman,

If you have not created a membership for yourself as a normal member of your group, do so. Then use that to leave the group and see what happens. I'm wondering if there is an email sent confirming that you want to leave the group that gives you the option to rejoin or not leave.

You may want to also create a another ID that you make an owner so if anything happens to your normal email, you won't be locked out of your group. You may want to consider making another member an owner should anything happen to you your group(s) won't be left floundering.

I also have a group set up for testing so that I know what members are seeing.

Paul, Ohio, USA

On Wednesday, January 31, 2018, 7:29:27 AM EST, Norman C. Berns <ncberns@...> wrote:

Log shows her leaving six times yet directory shows she's still a member. I manually removed her this morning. Don't know yet if she'll be added back.

I'm the only moderator and, yes, I get all emails. OTOH the only emails referencing this are from her, complaining that she keeps getting added. But there's no confirmation.

Norman



Re: No email bouncers

 

Richard,

Thanks for the info. I've looked in the Email Delivery History for
quite a lot (but by no means all) of these members and it has never
shown anything at all.
That might be worthy of a report to [email protected] - I think it should say something even if only to tell you it can't show you info from another group.

(the group doesn't send any special notices or other non-post emails
that I've noticed).
The process of joining your group, whether transferred in, Direct ADDed, or otherwise would have sent them some notifications, and if these were rejected that would put them into bouncing. But that still should have shown something in their history.

I was surprised to discover that there are 3100 non-bouncing members
who have also opted for no emails, almost half the membership, so it's
obviously a popular option:
If these are members copied over from a Yahoo Group their delivery option would have been copied as well.

I'd be interested to know what their modus operandi for using the
group is, as periodically checking the website for new posts of
interest seems grossly inefficient to me. Perhaps I should ask them...
Mayhaps. I know there are many people who prefer web access. If your group has public archives the could be using an RSS feed for notification of new messages.

Shal


Re: We've moved! Now I have some questions

 

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 05:30 am, debbie wrote:


> 8. Is there a way to make changes to or delete the
> <> automatic footer?

No.
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That's not good. That long footer comes out in two sections. I put the URL of our website in the Message Footer section of my group and it's coming out between the two sections. Doesn't make sense and looks very strange. Also, many of the member of my group only have email access and don't even have Internet access at all, so none of the links in the automatic footer are useful to them. I was thinking of putting some of the email commands in the group's Message Footer section, for them to use, but it will be so long and if it comes out after the automatic footer, it's pretty much useless.
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I will write to Mark about that. Do you think I should write to support or to the beta group?
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There has been some discussion and requests for this on beta@, and (and possibly others.)? Both are now moderated, but you can still add comments if they're approved.? I don't see anything about it on yet, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Mark isn't aware/working on it.

Duane


Re: Member Added Repeatedly #membership

 

Hi Norman,

If you have not created a membership for yourself as a normal member of your group, do so. Then use that to leave the group and see what happens. I'm wondering if there is an email sent confirming that you want to leave the group that gives you the option to rejoin or not leave.

You may want to also create a another ID that you make an owner so if anything happens to your normal email, you won't be locked out of your group. You may want to consider making another member an owner should anything happen to you your group(s) won't be left floundering.

I also have a group set up for testing so that I know what members are seeing.

Paul, Ohio, USA

On Wednesday, January 31, 2018, 7:29:27 AM EST, Norman C. Berns <ncberns@...> wrote:

Log shows her leaving six times yet directory shows she's still a member. I manually removed her this morning. Don't know yet if she'll be added back.

I'm the only moderator and, yes, I get all emails. OTOH the only emails referencing this are from her, complaining that she keeps getting added. But there's no confirmation.

Norman


Re: How do I delete files?

 

I'm using Firefox Quantum v. 58.0 64-bit for Ubuntu, and only the two first icons show.? But I guess I can just use Chrome when I want to delete files -- everything else seems to work.


PG Offline

 

We're in the processing of migrating from yahoo groups - I have backed up a good chunk of our messages via PG Offline and am wondering if there's a way to transfer those to groups.io without having to go back through yahoo?


Re: We've moved! Now I have some questions

debbie
 

Thanks so much, Shal, for your help.

It may depend on how you downloaded them. If you used the Chrome app from YahooGroupedia that's probably the best, as it will include the full view source of each message. If you screen-scraped them from the Conversations section that probably wouldn't work with the tools he has. It is also possible he'd be willing to update the archive using the tools he's written.


Yes, I did use the Chrome App and will write to Mark to ask him. Right now, it's working well for downloading member lists and for a small group of messages, but not for a whole message archive. It's too bad it has come to that with Yahoogroups.
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> 4. ... more frustrating is the time being used is US-PST. I looked
> around the settings and couldn't find a way to set, at least my own
> account, if not the whole group, to my local time zone. Is there a
> setting for that?

It is an account setting. Choose Account from the drop-list on your name, on the right in the top blue banner.

Too late now for the transferred members, but there's also a default you can set for new members who join in the future. Find that on the Default Sub Settings tab of your group's Settings page.

This is great. I did this for myself and for the group. I am only sorry I did not see this when I was going through the settings before the transfer. I am going to send an email to the members to explain it to them. No one has asked about it, but anyone who reads online must be confused, as we are 10 hours ahead of PST.


> 8. Is there a way to make changes to or delete the
> <> automatic footer?

No.

That's not good. That long footer comes out in two sections. I put the URL of our website in the Message Footer section of my group and it's coming out between the two sections. Doesn't make sense and looks very strange. Also, many of the member of my group only have email access and don't even have Internet access at all, so none of the links in the automatic footer are useful to them. I was thinking of putting some of the email commands in the group's Message Footer section, for them to use, but it will be so long and if it comes out after the automatic footer, it's pretty much useless.

I will write to Mark about that. Do you think I should write to support or to the beta group?

I had another question, but didn't write it down, and now forgot it. Oh, well. When I remember, I'll just have to send another message. :)

Thanks again.

Debbie


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Re: How do I delete files?

debbie
 


On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 2:55 PM, Torben Mogensen <torbenm@...> wrote:
I tried using Chrome instead of Firefox (both on Ubuntu), and I can now see all four icons, so it seems to be a problem with Firefox.

Hmm. Doesn't really matter now, but I am using Firefox (57.0.4 64-bit) and it shows up for me.


Re: How do I delete files?

 

I tried using Chrome instead of Firefox (both on Ubuntu), and I can now see all four icons, so it seems to be a problem with Firefox.


Re: How do I delete files?

 

I'm seeing only two icons: A pencil (for editing) and a pair of scissors (for moving).? There are some very small squiggles to the right of the scissors, looking somewhat like a ' and a . , but nothing happens when I press them.


Re: When not to transfer a Yahoo Group list.

 

Different answers may be right for different groups.? I own several book groups and associated groups that have operated on Yahoo for a long time.? I am moving one of the groups but I am not going to transfer all of the members or all of the old messages.

One of these groups has been inactive for some time and I am not going to do anything with it.? It can sit on yahoo or die.? The other group has about 10 active members out of 700 members in the group.? It also has messages related to discussions going back to 1996.? This group existed on another list serve before that -- the original messages were not migrated to Yahoo when the group moved there and I have made the decision not migrate messages from the Yahoo group to Groups.io.? I sent out a special message to the members that says that as of Feb 1, discussion will be held in a new group in Groups.io, have changed the cover page of the group to point to the new group and set up a Facebook page for the group with information about the move. ?

Jenny Ross
Book Group List owner


Re: How do I delete files?

debbie
 

As an owner/moderator, you should see four little icons next to each file name. One of them is a trash can for deleting. This is how it looks in my group. Are you seeing something else?



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On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Torben Mogensen <torbenm@...> wrote:
I have just joined and I am in the process of migrating a group from yahoogroups.

My question regards files in the Files section of the new group.? I can add files, move files, and edit file descriptions and names, but I can not find any way to delete a file. Can anyone help me?

Regards,
Torben