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Re: Bug on uploaded photos

 

Every photo in every album in my groups (including some taken yesterday) have a "Taken" date of 12/31/1969. I just posted this on beta.

Pete


Re: Determining active members (and removing the inactive)

 

Bruce,
Identifying members whose mailbox is disabled or otherwise inactive is entirely a manual process. With per-member pricing, GIO will need to create easy-to-use mechanisms to police membership lists for various types of failures and allow moderators/owners to purge those defunct members.
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Re: Direct Add to subgroup

 

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:09 PM, Karin Beil wrote:
Can I add him directly to a subgroup without requiring an invite to the main group being sent?
Karin -- You CAN send someone an invitation to a subgroup. Accepting the invitation will add that person to both the subgroup and the main group.

My Premium group does not have any subgroups, so I cannot test the scenario that Shal outlined. In any event, the person will end up a member of the main group, too. There is no way around that.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

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Re: Direct Add to subgroup

 

Karin,

Can I add him directly to a subgroup without requiring an invite to
the main group being sent?
For a single person you can go to the Subgroups page in your /primary/ groups Admin pages, find or search for him in that list, then use the checkboxes to assign which subgroup(s) you want him to be in.

For multiple addresses you can use Direct Add from the /primary/ group: it will have checkboxes for what subgroup(s) to add the list of addresses to. This works fine even if one or more is already a member of the primary group - it just gives you a harmless notification that they were already a member of the Primary group.

Shal


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Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

 

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 06:33 PM, Frances wrote:
the user must login to the group in order to complete the task of choosing the right hashtags
Unless they resend it via email with a correct tag.? That would leave the original in the Draft queue, but those are deleted after 2 weeks.

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Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

 

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 06:15 PM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:
Francis, Since you "found" the lack of info on "Required Hashtags" ( the term used in the owners' manual) you might wish to drop a note on the Documentation Beta sub group about it so that the tech writers can fix that lack wherever needed.
Thanks. Done.?
I did test myself and the user must login to the group in order to complete the task of choosing the right hashtags.

Frances
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Re: Bug on uploaded photos

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On 12/27/2020 15:51, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 06:14 PM, Margo Seegrist wrote:
I'm not sure where I should post this but all the photos being uploaded to albums are showing years in the 1960s range instead of 2020.
Margo -- I'm seeing all photos as having the taken date of 1969-12-3169, no matter when they were uploaded.

I don't know if this is a default for a photo that has no such metadata, or what. Definitely peculiar, as it's not even a valid date.

Does this bug go here, Beta, or where?
All bugs should be with a #bug hashtag.

Regards,
Bruce

The date 12/31/1969 is very suspicious to me, it is the day before the . Briefly, all UNIX machines and many others do not store dates internally as something like "12/31/69" but rather as an integer representing the number of seconds since some arbitrary point in time.? The integer is then converted on demand into whatever format the user desires. For UNIX machines, that arbitrary date is midnight UTC on 1/1/1970, which is why I think that this date is particularly interesting, as if someone fed -1 to a date integer.

Best,

Glenn


Re: Bug on uploaded photos

 

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 06:14 PM, Margo Seegrist wrote:
I'm not sure where I should post this but all the photos being uploaded to albums are showing years in the 1960s range instead of 2020.
Margo -- I'm seeing all photos as having the taken date of 1969-12-3169, no matter when they were uploaded.

I don't know if this is a default for a photo that has no such metadata, or what. Definitely peculiar, as it's not even a valid date.

Does this bug go here, Beta, or where?
All bugs should be with a #bug hashtag.

Regards,
Bruce

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Re: #owner #owner

 

We had a case where one of our three owners had to be removed for the good of our mission and the survival of the group.
He literally went off the rails, interrogating new applicants as if they were potential foreign spies.
When we quizzed him about why, he shouted at us in 64 point type with a vocabulary I haven't heard since the iceman delivered a block to my Grandma.
He truly went nuts, continuing to? rant and rave even though we were not responding.

If we had to get his approval to delete/demote him we could not possibly have gotten it.

If you wish to cause a catastrophe, require simultaneous approval of all owners.? Otherwise, forget it because it will become an obstacle when you least need a boulder in your way.

Bob

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Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

 

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 02:27 PM, Frances wrote:
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Francis, Since you "found" the lack of info on "Required Hashtags" ( the term used in the owners' manual) you might wish to drop a note on the Documentation Beta sub group about it so that the tech writers can fix that lack wherever needed.
Bob?
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Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

CBNelAZ
 

Glad it was a happy accident for all. And thanks much for the thread tending!


Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

CBNelAZ
 

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 03:06 PM, Frances wrote:
If there are only 3 hashtags available for the group, it should be easy to remember them and assign them to an email. Just type in the word with # like #guide. Example 2 with a topic: ?adopting older dogs #adoption
For web savvy members, no problem, agreed. But a lot of my members are not.

So I think the remedy I stumble on to works best for us. Let them title and send no hash, then pick a hash when the symptom prompt makes it brain dead easy to do ?


Bug on uploaded photos

 

I'm not sure where I should post this but all the photos being uploaded to albums are showing years in the 1960s range instead of 2020.

Does this bug go here, Beta, or where?
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Sincerely,
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Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

 

That is great! I have never tested or used compulsory hashtags. I don't see it in the Help either. I learned something today. Thanks.

BTW, I split off this discussion into its own thread and added a hashtag.

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Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

Carla Nelson
 

Thanks, Chris. While I was waiting i found another path for my members. ?

Compose your note in email, title it (Happy New Year), NO hash. The system sends a note right back enclosing the hashtag menu and prompting a pick.

End result: It says Happy New Year, just as you wished. And the note gets filed under the appropriate hashtag ¡ª in this example #Announcements


On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 3:04 PM Chris Jones via <chrisjones12=[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 09:56 PM, Carla Nelson wrote:
So I should have said how do you assign a hashtag in email to the first note in a new topic??
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In the subject line type: Subject #hashtag

Do not type any punctuation after the hashtag and discourage members from typing #hashtag then Subject.

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Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

 

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 04:56 PM, Carla Nelson wrote:
Sorry -- Category is my term picking one of the 3 hashtags available. I limited it to 3 and forced authors of new topics to pick one so as to pre-sort the topics in clumps.
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So I should have said how do you assign a hashtag in email to the first note in a new topic??
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If there are only 3 hashtags available for the group, it should be easy to remember them and assign them to an email. Just type in the word with # like #guide. Example 2 with a topic: ?adopting older dogs #adoption

Easy online, of course, to pick from the list of hashtags after they have typed in the topic / subject.

I am not sure whether this answers your question or not.

Frances
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Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

 

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 09:56 PM, Carla Nelson wrote:
So I should have said how do you assign a hashtag in email to the first note in a new topic??
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In the subject line type: Subject #hashtag

Do not type any punctuation after the hashtag and discourage members from typing #hashtag then Subject.

Chris ?


Re: Adding required hashtags by email #hashtags

Carla Nelson
 

Sorry -- Category is my term picking one of the 3 hashtags available. I limited it to 3 and forced authors of new topics to pick one so as to pre-sort the topics in clumps.

So I should have said how do you assign a hashtag in email to the first note in a new topic??

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:34 PM Chris Jones via <chrisjones12=[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 07:28 PM, Carla Nelson wrote:
I set up my group to require a category
What, exactly, is a "category"?

Chris


Re: Moderator not receiving messages

 

On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 02:02 PM, Alan Warshawer wrote:
On 20 December for some unknown reason, the posts requiring moderator action shifted to "Social." I don't think that it was any action I?took that caused the shift, but it happened.
I'd guess it was probably something Google did, they have a habit of changing things.? I've gone into my account and removed ALL of the categories, so everything? (except spam) just shows up in my inbox.? If I wanted to do some sorting, I'd do it in Thunderbird.

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Re: #owner #owner

 

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Hi Bruce,

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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Yes, they do bring up "what if" issues, but those issues are issues today.

Our group has four co-owners who come together to agree on all of our owner decisions. That same formula or a majority formula could be automatically implemented. I am part of a small group and would rely on your knowledge of the complexities of doing this on a global level in forwarding this as a suggestion.

Ken

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Bowman
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2020 11:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] #owner

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On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 12:24 PM, Ken Schweizer wrote:

If there are multiple owners of a group it would seem logical that the deletion of the group would require all of the owners to agree on the group deletion. I would also suggest that the only owner a single owner can delete is themself.

Ken -- You could propose this as a #suggestion in the beta group, but please carefully consider all the "what if" scenarios first. For example, one Owner could also downgrade (not delete) all the other Owners and then delete the group. So to implement something like this, you would also have to remove the co-Owner downgrade privilege.

And then, "what if" one of the Owners dies, leaving his ownership behind? You can never remove his subscription, downgrade him, or delete the group, no matter what?

It may be a "pain", but an owner should not be automatically be removed for a "SPAM" report. A warning message would seem to be more appropriate than the possible locking a group due to a lack of ownership.

The last remaining Owner is never removed for a spam report.
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Regards,
Bruce


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