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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOur group transitioned yesterday. Today, I would call it a smooth success. Transferring 17+ years of posts went much faster than I anticipated and without any perceived errors. Our old Y! group is now set to all posts moderated and new members by invite only. No posts have been made to the Y! group and lots of kudos on groups.io and no complaints from the membership. We started the process with our group shortly after the Oath: acquisition, explaining that a move might be necessary and giving them reasons, asking for suggestions, and eventually settling on groups.io. We chose this week for the move because it is relatively quiescent. We are a book discussion group and customarily have a week break between books. I have to admit that I was a bit shaken when I saw Mark¡¯s announcement that Y! transfers might be halted, elated when I saw the transfer execute quickly and flawlessly yesterday morning. We had 2% leave the group. I emailed a few people and, as I expected, they had lost interest and took the opportunity to leave. We plan to get to all of them eventually. 10% are bouncing. That is more troubling. I posted on the Y! group that members should be receiving posts from groups.io and to adjust their anti-spam if they are not. We¡¯ll see if bouncing list shrinks. If not, I will probably reach out individually. This is annoying, but I see it as a necessary growing pain. All in all, a remarkably pleasant experience. I¡¯ve architected, coded, and presided over many upgrades and product switches in my day job. This has been one of the easiest. Best, Marv Waschke |
Re: arrrggghhhh! I don't get it (just a rant)
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý> After my group transferred, we had exactly one snafu? ...??After that, most people using email were not even aware of the change. We have some group members who STILL think we're in yahoo. It was that seamless. :)
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I have noted the same thing with my group transfers. The biggest problem I have is reminding people to change their address book entry for the groups to the groups.io address. I have members who still don't?really comprehend that we've moved.
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Re: arrrggghhhh! I don't get it (just a rant)
When I moved my groups. I made the announcement, gave them a month to move, invited them even then shut down the group with no warning. I told them I was going to do this. They are used to me so they followed directions with out complaints. I said eithe rdo this my way or there's the door. Some left, about 90 percent stayed. I run my groups with a heavy but fair hand so that worked.
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Take care On Jan 23, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Default <ken@...> wrote: |
How can we enable receipt of emails from mailchimp?
#issue
We are trying to implement MailChimp for our group and have the email go to people on the list FROM an email address that represents one of our sub-groups in groups.io.
However, MailChimp, when trying to verify the groups.io email address we have, it says the domain is not verifiable.?? Can you help us figure out how to fix this? Thanks! |
Re: arrrggghhhh! I don't get it (just a rant)
J_Catlady
On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:20 pm, Shal Farley wrote:
I'm still not surprised that someone might resist what may seem to them to be alarmist information.Shal, absolutely, in retrospect it was stupid to give the proverbial unasked-for advice. I couched it in alarmist terms only because I was sure they would ignore it otherwise. I should never even have made the attempt. ? -- J |
Re: arrrggghhhh! I don't get it (just a rant)
J_Catlady
After my group transferred, we had exactly one snafu: a member sent her email with her logon link to another member, trying to be helpful, and then the member logged into that member's account. (That snafu, IIRC, was the origin of the 60-minute time-out on the login link.:) After that, most people using email were not even aware of the change. We have some group members who STILL think we're in yahoo. It was that seamless. :)
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Re: arrrggghhhh! I don't get it (just a rant)
Last night I was asked what I was going to do after the transfer is complete.
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I told them that when complete. please post only on groups.io All posts on the old group will be moderated. No new members will be approved for the YG list. The moderators will no longer moderate (and approve messages) on a timely basis. The old YG group will be an archive, until YG dies, it will not grow. So Far all quiet, this was a Special Notice so all should have received it by now ken On 2018-01-23 08:39, J_Catlady wrote:
This morning I went back into that yahoo group (mainly out of morbid |
Re: arrrggghhhh! I don't get it (just a rant)
J_Catlady
This morning I went back into that yahoo group (mainly out of morbid curiosity - I'm not going to post any more there) and found a deluge of angry, sarcastic posts - yahoo groups is just fine, we don't need you telling us what to do, bla bla bla.?Thanks for the support, everyone!
-- J |
Re: arrrggghhhh! I don't get it (just a rant)
I tend to agree with Don.? I've had a number of yahoogroups since probably 2002 or so and before NEO, I (as administrator/owner/moderator) was able to do a number of things administratively that NEO took away.? Over time, I've found that when you have a problem, you end up with an automated Q&A session that takes you to a FAQ entry that probably doesn't answer your problem.? Getting a human to talk to is pretty much a thing of the past.? They have made changes without advance notification, and many of my older members have a lot of trouble with the CAPTCHA process to change email or join the group, so they end up quitting in disgust.? I had two specific groups I was targeting for a move - the first one had about 150 members and it went like clockwork.? No hiccups whatsoever and it's been going for probably 6-8 months.? My other group was like nearly 1000 folks and I wanted to wait a bit.? What I found was that Yahoogroups access was getting flaky while groups.io wasn't, so I finally decided to migrate the larger group.? It took a little longer (probably because of the demand from former yahoogroup users to move) and some things didn't make it (files mostly, apparently because something is going on over at Yahoogroups - so I'll have to check and see what is happening before I shut down that group).
And, in any transfer like this, you will lose some people and you will gain others.? There are always growing pains, but those folks who are ranting and raving at you for recommending a move are stuck in a paradigm they don't really understand.? I made the migration to Yahoogroups from a LISTPROC server hosted at a university back in 2002.? My co-owner and I talked about the alternatives - we were looking at Majordomo, possibly hosting LISTPROC on a UNIX machine locally, Yahoogroups, Googlegroups, and for whatever reasons back then, we opted for Yahoogroups.? Every option has it's pros and cons, but so far (knock on wood), groups.io has been solid. Bill Hickey Boulder, CO |
Re: YGroups GMF probs?
I have found hiccups occasionally in sending invitations or some other routine maintenance, but those have, at least until now, been corrected within a day or two.? Where I am seeing a problem is in the Management Reports. The last entry into any of the reports is January 1st. While this isn't critical, it is annoying, as I check Moderator Activity and Membership Activity frequently. I have taken the precaution of downloading my lists, so even if a transfer should no longer be possible, I will have a list of emails for sending invites from groups.io and starting that way. I've been loathe to make the change on this one list as I expect a series of problems that I just don't want to deal with. My two smallest lists are doing fine on groups.io.
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Cacky On 1/22/2018 8:42 PM, Wm. Paul Mitchell wrote:
Anyone having further problems with GMF on YGroups? |
Re: What action is required by members after the transfer?
Can I suggest you send your group an email from your migrated group - by email to your Groups.io email address or by logging into your group space on Groups.io and sending something from there?
Then your group members will see they are still group members and are receiving email from the group.? I hope most most of your members are receiving mail. My group is set so that Special Notices is the least frequent delivery method. If you have Special Notices only, send your first message via your group site and tick the Special Notices checkbox.? Frances |
Re: Are Adult groups allowed on groups.io
Johnny M Ross
Well its an adult film star group, so I dont think it is appropriate for here. This website is so much like yahoo groups, except for yahoo allowed adults only groups. Too bad they went under, they were the best for this type of group. Do you have any alternatives that accept adult groups and reach a wide audience.? I think google groups is dead now like yahoo?
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Re: Are Adult groups allowed on groups.io
There's no way to have a group limited to adults only. To know whether your group is acceptable, you should read Conditions of Use > User Conduct in the TOS. If you still aren't sure, you could send a message to [email protected] for clarification. I think it will depend on the content and intent of the group.
Duane |
Re: Message Settings
#groupowner
They can use the email commands, shown at /static/help#emailcommands for some. They can also sign in to the site and go to any of their groups, select Subscription from the left menu, and change as needed (being sure to Save when done.)
Duane |
Are Adult groups allowed on groups.io
Johnny M Ross
Hi, I wanted to transfer my adults only yahoo group to groups.io, but I cannot find any info that adult groups are allowed on here.Can anyone tell me for sure and if so how do I make my group available to adults only. I have not posted or done anything til I find out if my group is allowed. If not, I will be deleting it as soon as I get a reply. Thank You.
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