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Re: New groups.io pricing structure

 

I appreciate that, but some things are more valuable than profitable, life isn¡¯t always about ¡®profit and loss¡¯ sometimes it isn¡¯t about ¡®dreams and joy¡¯, you know?

Mod's note:
1. This increase does not apply to existing Premium groups, only those upgraded to Premium after January 18, 2021. To lock in the current price, upgrade now.
2. More details can be found at ?. Please read that before commenting.


Re: postings missing from my screen of BREX group's account

 

Problem solved. The other moderator misread the destination of the posting in question.


Re: New groups.io pricing structure

 

Russell, if you subscribe to the beta group you'll get the heads-up directly from Mark on this kind of thing. ?.

Pete


Re: New groups.io pricing structure

 

The pricing issue is simple.
Mark has to run a viable business model which would survive in the long run.
If users feel they are getting their money's worth, then they should not complain.
I run a group with many members and most of them are lurkers and only a few are actively participating.
For a member to pay 5cents annually should not be a great hardship.

M K Ramadoss


On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 12:39 PM Russell Courtenay via <walruswebtech=[email protected]> wrote:
I don¡¯t know if this is the correct group for this but I was informed by another group owner, I haven¡¯t gotten this from Mark yet.?

New premium pricing: additional 5? per member per month over 400 members?

I understand there are costs involved but it is frustrating to those of us who manage large numbers of enthusiast groups, we are not in it for the money, we don¡¯t make any money from it, yet we must pay, pay, pay...

[Moderator notes:
1. This increase?does not apply to existing Premium groups, only those upgraded to Premium after January 18. To lock in the current price, upgrade now.
2. More details can be found at??. Please read that before commenting.
3. No one here in GMF is involved in setting GIO pricing policies. If you want you be heard by someone who can do something about it, take it to .?]


Re: Bouncing

 

Two comments: the gmail outage screwed things up in subtle ways besides the gio bouncing issue. I use the gmail client but most of my email goes through non-gmail services. During the outage, the gmail client began failing to poll my non-gmail addresses. The effect was that gio appeared to have quit sending me email, although it was working fine. I was scratching my head because my gio email delivery log looked fine, but I wasn't receiving messages. After poking around, I discovered the problem and went to gmail settings to manually force gmail to read my non-gmail addresses. If members of your group are having issues, this could be one source.

I am rethinking my choice of email clients. I started using the gmail client to become familiar with it because I found myself helping a lot of people with gmail issues. Maybe it is time go back to Outlook or Thunderbird. Or something else.

Second comment: Google appears to be entering rough regulatory waters and I would not be surprised if their business model changes in the next few years, but I doubt that this outage is related. Reports say that an internal automatic storage allocation system failed and some of their systems ran out of space for 40 minutes or so. Yikes! That's the kind of scenario that nightmares are made from. At Google's scale, that could cause a lot of damage, some of which might be subtle and cause instability that lasts longer than you would expect. Therefore, I would keep an eye on Google services for a while.
Best, Marv


postings missing from my screen of BREX group's account

 

There is at least one posting -maybe more - that another moderator in our group can see in the list of recent postings, but I do not see.
I've refreshed my screen and searched for it by name of the original poster as well as some words from the body of the posting.

Bonnie Cureton is the name of the member. My co-moderator says she sees it as having been posted 12/10 and 12/16.
Any clues as to what might be going on??
thanks
Anita


New groups.io pricing structure

 

I don¡¯t know if this is the correct group for this but I was informed by another group owner, I haven¡¯t gotten this from Mark yet.?

New premium pricing: additional 5? per member per month over 400 members?

I understand there are costs involved but it is frustrating to those of us who manage large numbers of enthusiast groups, we are not in it for the money, we don¡¯t make any money from it, yet we must pay, pay, pay...

[Moderator notes:
1. This increase?does not apply to existing Premium groups, only those upgraded to Premium after January 18. To lock in the current price, upgrade now.
2. More details can be found at??. Please read that before commenting.
3. No one here in GMF is involved in setting GIO pricing policies. If you want you be heard by someone who can do something about it, take it to .?]


Re: New Membership Subscriptions via Email Subscription Address #membershiprequest

 

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On Dec 17 20, at 11:08 AM, Patty Sliney via <hoosierquilt@...> wrote:

If someone clicks on this and submits an email subscription request, are they also sent the automatic Member Notice that we can set up to be sent to all pending subscriptions?? We try to screen all prospective list members by setting up that "Pending Subscription¡± notice

That¡¯s exactly what it is for!?

A reminder - if you invite them through Invite, the assumption is that you know who they are and they aren¡¯t sent the Pending Subscription notice.

Frances



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Check out the?new groups.io Help Center??Use your browser to search or download?the PDF.


Re: BOUNCING

 

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 04:06 PM, Mimi Kessler wrote:
I have a gmail account, why did I miss all this?
I'm not sure we can answer that question! That said consider the following points: (a) Do you use groups.io by email or the web UI? (b) If your email was "down" then anything sent to you would not arrive. (c) Do you monitor this group (GMF) as a matter of routine or only when something of immediate interest to you arises? (d) How much traffic does your group generate?

Where can I go in Gio to find out if this happened to those in my group?

How about your Activity log? (Look for Bounced and Unbounced as Actions.) And your own Email Delivery History, along with those of a random sample of your members who have gmail or googlemail addresses.

Chris


Re: BOUNCING

 

You have to go to your account?at . If you see pink box, you haven't clicked to "UNbounce your email addy for all the lists you are subscribed to.

I sent a message to 4 of my lists and most didn't even know they missed messages until they logged in to see the pink box at top.

And a bonanza here, doing so they have been cleared to post without first moderation.

David Samuelsen

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 9:06 AM Mimi Kessler <mimikessler1@...> wrote:
I have a gmail account, why did I miss all this? Where can I go in Gio to find out if this happened to those in my group?


Re: New Membership Subscriptions via Email Subscription Address #membershiprequest

 

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 11:09 AM, Patty Sliney wrote:
I have a question about the email subscription address that is added on all group's? Home page:? Subscribe: [email protected].? If someone clicks on this and submits an email subscription request, are they also sent the automatic Member Notice that we can set up to be sent to all pending subscriptions?
Yes...every subscriber that goes into Pending status is sent a Pending Subscription notice.

...is they a way to remove that Subscribe email from our Home page so it's not an option?
Only Enterprise groups have a fully customizable home page.

Regards,
Bruce

Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual


New Membership Subscriptions via Email Subscription Address #membershiprequest

 

I have a question about the email subscription address that is added on all group's? Home page:? Subscribe: [email protected].? If someone clicks on this and submits an email subscription request, are they also sent the automatic Member Notice that we can set up to be sent to all pending subscriptions?? We try to screen all prospective list members by setting up that "Pending Subscription" notice, and have them answer a couple of list-related questions.? Trying to screen out list spammers.? But, I am concerned that people who try to subscribe via that email subscription option will NOT get this automated Pending Subscription message.? If they do not, is they a way to remove that Subscribe email from our Home page so it's not an option?? I still wish that Mark would allow us to set up a questionnaire at the "Join Group" page, that forces a prospective list member to answer questions we can set up.? A feature that can be turned on if a list owner would like.? Yahoo Groups had this option, and it was seamless - a new prospective list member couldn't even submit the membership request without answering the questions.? The way we have it now is hit and miss.?
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Patty S.


Re: BOUNCING

 

I have a gmail account, why did I miss all this? Where can I go in Gio to find out if this happened to those in my group?


Re: difference between a chat and a topic?

 

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 08:36 AM, Kat Hathaway wrote:
Any advice about the difference between a chat and a topic?
I'd say the main difference is that you must be logged in to participate in a chat, and anything typed into one isn't sent out as emails.?Chat discussions also generally occur in real time, and the associated messages tend to be short (kinda like Twitter), although you don't have to use them like that.

Think "telephone conference," but you're typing instead of talking.

See ?and?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/working-with-chats/understanding-the-chats-feature?

Regards,
Bruce

Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual


Re: #issue #invitation #issue #invitation

 

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 08:51 AM, Neill Simpson wrote:
I tested it with a friend using the syntax: [email protected]. This has not been successful. Is there another syntax?
No, that should work.? For your particular group, it would be [email protected]? If they send an email to that address, they should go onto the Pending Subscription list.

Duane
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Re: #issue #invitation #issue #invitation

 

The problem with undelivered invitations?persists. I would like to offer the "+subscribe" method to individuals?who have been active in the group.
I tested it with a friend using the syntax: [email protected]. This has not been successful. Is there another syntax? I couldn't find a relevant entry in the Help section. Neill

On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 at 10:06, Neill Simpson <neill.simpson@...> wrote:
Thanks, Duane, much appreciated.
Neill

On Tue, 15 Dec 2020 at 15:52, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 09:33 AM, Neill Simpson wrote:
Is there a known problem affecting invitations to some email providers (ntlworld.comn and ,uk)?
Both and are owned by Virgin Media.? You may have to contact them to see what's going on.? It appears that they may not allow outside email, but only they know for sure.

The folks that want to be members can use the +subscribe address to apply.? You could also upgrade to Premium for a month to Direct Add them to the group.

Duane
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GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki


Re: IP for groups.io for SPF record?

 

Not with "aspf" set to relaxed, which was determined after testing. The only other choices for "p" are "quarantine" and "none", neither of which were acceptable to us.
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Jim


Re: Strange entry in activity log

 

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 07:26 PM, Duane wrote:
... this will change their email address on ALL groups that person belongs to.? I'd contact Walt to see if that may have happened.? If so, it's good to know that the information is logged in all groups the person is in.

Duane
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That's a good idea. I'll ask him about that. I suppose that's what happened. I do change an email address, from time to time, for some of my members who aren't very good about working with computers. But most of my members aren't connected with any other groups.io mailing lists. (I think moderators must be aware that a person can't change an email address without affecting all the groups to which that person belongs. There's a prominent notice to that effect on the member's "subscription" record:)

Note: Changing this email address changes the email address for this person's account, affecting all of their other subscriptions.

Thanks.
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David Bryant
Canyon Lake, Texas
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Re: Strange entry in activity log

 

Hi David

I have the same incident as you, which has happened several times since last Monday.

I sent a message to support yesterday.
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Michel Moro
Moderator
Rennes, France
https://cg22.groups.io


difference between a chat and a topic?

 

Hi,
Any advice about the difference between a chat and a topic?? I'm about the invite the members of my group and I'm wondering how best to advise them about whether they? should post something as a chat or a topic.
thanks,
K