Fixed it in the UK? ? That¡¯s a UK link. ? What about across the big pond in the USA?
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On Dec 15, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Shal wrote: > Except it's still kind of broken.
Google says they've fixed it now.
https://www.google.co.uk/appsstatus#hl=en&v=issue&sid=1&iid=a8b67908fadee664c68c240ff9f529ab
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John, Except it's still kind of broken. Google says they've fixed it now. A lot of us dealing with bad bounces... Mark is unbouncing them now. Shal -- Help: /helpcenterMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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Except it's still kind of broken.? ? A lot of us dealing with bad bounces...
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Re: Bouncing due to a message from GMF!
Hi, It had nothing to do with migration from Y! to Groups.IO, but rather, something going on from Gmail side. Mark is unbouncing Gmail address users at the moment, which will take hours (paraphrasing his post on Beta group). Cheers, Joseph ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of T Golding Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 3:50 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [GMF] Bouncing due to a message from GMF! ? Shal, I haven't read other posts, just yours, but I just got the bounce message for one of my groups.? I went to the group to see what bounced, and she reported hundreds of messages bouncing, all gmail.? I sure hope Mark can fix this.? With yahoo closing, I would assume he knew what was about to happen here and had prepared for it.? First time that's ever happened to me in gmail.? Not good.
Terri
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Hi Joseph
Well looks like groups io is working on it and google s getting it together, hopeing. Smile
The best of luck to all who is working with this craziness. ?
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Joseph Hudson Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 3:06 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [GMF] bouncing around Hi Sugar, who knows how long it will last. I have only been bounced once since this whole thing started. However, I got to bounce probes for some strange reason. [excess quote trimmed by moderator]
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I have been bouncing (and re-setting each time) constantly all day. Non-GroupsIO messages are coming through with no issue. I can't even approve messages in the group...I'll approve one, then my account is set back to bouncing, and I have to re-set it again before I can approve the next one.
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Any ideas? I'm not a member/owner of that many groups, and only this one gets any significant traffic.
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Thanks!
Kim S.
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 6:28 PM Joseph Hudson < jhud7789@...> wrote: Oh mine was yesterday when I got bounced. I haven't been bounced today.
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Re: Bouncing due to a message from GMF!
Shal, I haven't read other posts, just yours, but I just got the bounce message for one of my groups.? I went to the group to see what bounced, and she reported hundreds of messages bouncing, all gmail.? I sure hope Mark can fix this.? With yahoo closing, I would assume he knew what was about to happen here and had prepared for it.? First time that's ever happened to me in gmail.? Not good.
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Oh mine was yesterday when I got bounced. I haven't been bounced today.
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On Dec 15, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 06:13 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote:
However, I got to bounce probes for some strange reason.
Like Sugar, I sent a bounce probe to about 125 GMF members whose GMail accounts were Bouncing this morning. This was under the assumption that Google had actually fixed the problem that was said to have occurred "yesterday."
Unfortunately, it proved to be a waste of time. Please wait for the issue to be remedied...and avoid repeating my mistake.
Regards,
Bruce
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On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 06:13 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote:
However, I got to bounce probes for some strange reason.
Like Sugar, I sent a bounce probe to about 125 GMF members whose GMail accounts were Bouncing this morning. This was under the assumption that Google had actually fixed the problem that was said to have occurred "yesterday."? Unfortunately, it proved to be a waste of time. Please wait for the issue to be remedied...and avoid repeating my mistake. Regards, Bruce
Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual
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Like I mentione to Jeff
Thank you for this.
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bruce Bowman
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 3:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] bouncing around
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On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 05:54 PM, Sugar Lopez wrote:
Ok, so I just had to send every single one of my members a pro bounce note, to unbounce themselves.
This is he secnd time I do this with in the hour
Seems to me that sending additional emails -- bounce probes or otherwise -- to email accounts that aren't accepting them isn't going to accomplish much.?
Id it because of today being the last day of yahoo¡¯s e mail groups?
That seems unlikely.
I¡¯m not trying to be difficult, just wondering how long will this go on
See??
It will be fixed when Google gets its act together. There is no way to know exactly when that might be.
Regards,
Bruce
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Hi Sugar, who knows how long it will last. I have only been bounced once since this whole thing started. However, I got to bounce probes for some strange reason.
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On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:51 PM, Sugar Lopez <sugarsyl71@...> wrote:
Hi all
Ok, so I just had to send every single one of my members a pro bounce note, to unbounce themselves.
This is he secnd time I do this with in the hour
Id it because of today being the last day of yahoo¡¯s e mail groups?
I¡¯m not trying to be difficult, just wondering how long will this go on
Thanks for all you do
Sugar
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There appears to be a problem outside the groups.io scene at the moment where perfectly good gmail addresses are bouncing because the gmail server says they do not exist. ? Hopefully the second Google problem in two days will be speedily resolved. ? describes the first outage, which seems to have been self-inflicted rather than the result of malicious outside actors. ? Jeff ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Sugar Lopez
Sent: 15 December 2020 22:51
To: Group Managers Forum <[email protected]>
Subject: [GMF] bouncing around? Hi all Ok, so I just had to send every single one of my members a pro bounce note, to unbounce themselves. This is he secnd time I do this with in the hour Id it because of today being the last day of yahoo¡¯s e mail groups? I¡¯m not trying to be difficult, just wondering how long will this go on Thanks for all you do Sugar
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Re: to the novices who want to move from yahoogroups to io-groups
Thanks Duane and Bruce! Finally able to do the move.
Marie?
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On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 05:54 PM, Sugar Lopez wrote:
Ok, so I just had to send every single one of my members a pro bounce note, to unbounce themselves.
This is he secnd time I do this with in the hour
Seems to me that sending additional emails -- bounce probes or otherwise -- to email accounts that aren't accepting them isn't going to accomplish much.?
Id it because of today being the last day of yahoo¡¯s e mail groups?
That seems unlikely.
I¡¯m not trying to be difficult, just wondering how long will this go on
See?? It will be fixed when Google gets its act together. There is no way to know exactly when that might be. Regards, Bruce
Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual
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Hi all Ok, so I just had to send every single one of my members a pro bounce note, to unbounce themselves. This is he secnd time I do this with in the hour Id it because of today being the last day of yahoo¡¯s e mail groups? I¡¯m not trying to be difficult, just wondering how long will this go on Thanks for all you do Sugar
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Re: gmail nightmare continuing
??????????????? Hi, Yes, I am finding that a few of my members are bouncing off and on and new members that are coming from yahoo groups are bouncing? before they are accepted. I have unbounced myself only twice today Does anyone know when this maddness is going to relax a bit? Smile Thank you Sugar ? ?
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gmail nightmare continuing
I have now literally unbounced myself 3 times within 5 minutes and no doubt will be bouncing again as soon as I hit the ?send¡° button. ?What a nightmare.
Barbara
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Re: Bouncing due to a message from GMF!
Ken,
If someone is on a number of very busy lists, this would seem to make
bouncing more likely due to the amount of traffic going to one account.
Correct, in the sense that each message sent is an opportunity for the receiving service to reject ("bounce") one of the messages. In the case of yesterday's Gmail problem, someone whose group subscriptions sent no messages during the affected interval would not have been put on Bouncing status.
But the message logged shows an explanation that clearly say the issue is
Groups.io is sending or connecting too many times and needs to throttle
back. It would serve as a clue that would impact many members as I guess the
threshold is for all of Groups.io mail servers talking to the
Spectrum/Charter mail servers. I hope the solution they are working on is
taking that into account.
For that circumstance, yes. Several months ago Mark implemented means to regulate how many simultaneous connections Groups.io forms to any given service, and IIRC how many messages to deliver during each connection. So it should be a matter of tuning those parameters to suit the limitations of a given service, while working with the service to increase what they allow if their limits are causing noticeable message delay.
Setting a number of members to bouncing is only a temporary and poor fix as
that reduces the continuing traffic from GIO to Spectrum/Charter.
Setting the individual accounts to bouncing is not intended as a fix - it is a response to the service's rejection of messages. If there's a large number of rejections from a given service what has to happen from there is an investigation into the underlying cause, hopefully with the cooperation of that service. In the case of Gmail yesterday the cause appears to have been a temporary failure of their email servers to recognize valid destination addresses. There was also yesterday a listing by SORBS (a blacklist service) of one of Groups.io's outbound servers as being a spam source []. That may have caused some email services to start rejecting messages from Groups.io rather than simply diverting them to the member's Spam folder. Shal
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IP for groups.io for SPF record?
When I send an email to groups.io, I get a DKIM fail and SPF fail. I would like to work on SPF for now as I am just learning about this. The error report says:
<source_ip>66.175.222.108</source_ip>
<count>6</count>
-<policy_evaluated>
<disposition>none</disposition>
<dkim>fail</dkim>
<spf>fail</spf>
</policy_evaluated>
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My SPF record does have "include:groups.io".
Do I have to add "ip4:66.175.222.108"?
Someone mentioned that I need to add?ip4:66.175.222.12 too. Is that correct?
Thanks in advance for any suggestion. If this has been asked before, could you point me to the message? Many thanks!
David
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