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Re: Editing and Deleting Posts
I am not so sure. The General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) includes a provision that ¡°The data subject shall have the right to withdraw his or her consent at any time.¡± I¡¯m not sure how that would apply, but I gather that it is intended to protect people have granted permanent rights to certain data and later regret it. ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J_Catlady
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 12:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GMF] Editing and Deleting Posts ? Not applicable in the slightest. Users explicitly grant rights to their content. I do understand wanting to remove one¡¯s posts. But if a group announces on the home page that removing is disallowed - just as, actually, the TOU makes it clear that users grant permanent rights - it seems fair enough.? Sent from my iPhone ?
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Re: Editing and Deleting Posts
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThanks to all who replied.? I had searched the archives here, but not on the beta group, so I will remember to do that in the future.? I don't particularly care how this works, but am glad to now understand how it works so I can make sure my users are clear on it as well.? Thanks!?? Janet ._,_ |
Re: Editing and Deleting Posts
J_Catlady
I'm not going to argue about this any more. We'd just be rehashing the same argument as previously on beta. The legal issue is clear and IIRC, at last count Shal was suggesting *changing* the TOU to allow users to delete their content, because currently it does not. I'm done here. On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 1:20 PM, J_Catlady <j.olivia.catlady@...> wrote: I disagree. That means that users promise not to infringe on someone else¡¯s copyright. It has nothing to do with this issue. |
Re: Editing and Deleting Posts
J_Catlady
I disagree. That means that users promise not to infringe on someone else¡¯s copyright. It has nothing to do with this issue.
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Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote: |
Re: Editing and Deleting Posts
The TOS also state, "You are solely responsible for all code, video, images, information, data, text, software, music, sound, photographs, graphics, messages or other materials (¡°content¡±) that you upload, post, publish or display (hereinafter, ¡°upload¡±) or email or otherwise use via the Service." In which case, I can delete it if I want.
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Re: Editing and Deleting Posts
Janet,
Is there a way to prevent people from deleting [their own] posts?As J said, no. I'm on the opposite camp though. I support users having the unfettered ability to remove their own contributions across the board. I'm not sure how Groups.io ended up with a mixed situation, granting the ability through the UI but not the contract right in the TOS. I would prefer that the Groups.io Terms Of Service document be amended to make such removal a contract right. That is, I would replace the grant of a perpetual and irrevocable license with a limited one; a license which terminates when the member removes his/her content from the service. I don't expect this to be a high priority issue for Groups.io right now. And it has been a recurring issue in Yahoo Groups over the years, but firmly settled in the members' favor by the Yahoo TOS (paragraph 9.1). Shal |
Re: Editing and Deleting Posts
J_Catlady
Not applicable in the slightest. Users explicitly grant rights to their content. I do understand wanting to remove one¡¯s posts. But if a group announces on the home page that removing is disallowed - just as, actually, the TOU makes it clear that users grant permanent rights - it seems fair enough.?
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On Jan 22, 2018, at 12:24 PM, Marv Waschke <marv@...> wrote:
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Re: Editing and Deleting Posts
A regulation in the EU grants its citizens a right to erase personal data. How that would apply to groups.io, I don¡¯t know, but personally, I rather wish it existed in the US. I¡¯ve shot my mouth off a number of times and I wish I could make the network forget. ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of J_Catlady
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 11:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GMF] Editing and Deleting Posts ? No, there's no way to prevent them from deleting their posts. I have lobbied for this as well. Others argue that members are legally entitled to remove their own content. I think the legal argument actually goes the other way, because users grant non-exclusive license to display their content in any way, shape or form. The current TOU does not require to allow users to remove their posts, and I feel strongly that a group should be allowed to disable that ability. There are threads on beta about this. You might want to have a look. ? [Excess quote trimmed by moderator] ?
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Re: Transfer
Dave, are you inviting [email protected] to be a member of your YahooGroup?
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That worked for me however many YahooGroups support functions have been down the last few days, including the membership function yesterday. ken On 2018-01-22 11:01, greyolddave wrote:
Just got my group approved and intend to transfer my group from |
Problem with Incredimail formatting (was: html)
Someone told me here to uncheck the image size. When I did that I can now see all the incredimail graphics with no problem. I wanted to thank you.
My only issue now with iogroups is that they delete people if letters go to spam. I have a member who got so upset she won't sign up again and I dont want to lose members here. Is there any way to sign her up again without her doing it? Anita [Mod note: comments about member moved to matching topic: /g/GroupManagersForum/message/3549 ] |
Re: Editing and Deleting Posts
J_Catlady
No, there's no way to prevent them from deleting their posts. I have lobbied for this as well. Others argue that members are legally entitled to remove their own content. I think the legal argument actually goes the other way, because users grant non-exclusive license to display their content in any way, shape or form. The current TOU does not require to allow users to remove their posts, and I feel strongly that a group should be allowed to disable that ability. There are threads on beta about this. You might want to have a look. On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Janet Smith <desertminis@...> wrote: I had thought that, if I disabled Editing Posts, it would not allow members to delete their own posts.? This doesn't seem to the case.?? Am I missing something?? Is there a way to prevent people from deleting posts?? I'd like the mods to be able to do it in case of spam that comes through, but hadn't wanted members to be able to do this.?? Thanks.? Janet Smith |
Re: Transfer
Oops. Sorry. I see my mistake. On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 2:01 PM, greyolddave <greyolddave@...> wrote:
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Editing and Deleting Posts
I had thought that, if I disabled Editing Posts, it would not allow members to delete their own posts.? This doesn't seem to the case.?? Am I missing something?? Is there a way to prevent people from deleting posts?? I'd like the mods to be able to do it in case of spam that comes through, but hadn't wanted members to be able to do this.?? Thanks.? Janet Smith
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Transfer
Just got my group approved and intend to transfer my group from yahoogroups to The instructions say to invite [email protected] to my group to start the transfer. |
Re: Size Of Cover Photo
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIt says it will be scaled to fit within 900 x 300 pixels.On 1/22/2018 12:23 AM, Don wrote:
What can the size of the Cover Photo be? Is there a max dimension for the Cover Photo? |
Size Of Cover Photo
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What can the size of the Cover Photo be? Is there a max dimension for the Cover Photo?
Don |
Re: Starting a new group but not running it yet?
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Hello all,
I just tried to log into my still existing Yahoo Group.? That group was transferred to groups.io in January 2017.? I can see the photos clearly.?
However, when I try to log into a 2nd group, or which I am Co-Owner also, first I cannot view databases within the group.? If I go out of the group and come back in, I can view the databases, but when trying to open them I get an error message that I do not have access to edit the database.
I would say Yahoo definitely has its issues.
Doug From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Donald Hellen <donhellen@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:40 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GMF] Starting a new group but not running it yet? ?
Shal . . .
On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:11:09 -0800, "Shal Farley" <shals2nd@...> wrote: > >No sooner did I send that then Yahoo Groups came back for me (5:00 pm >PST, 2018-01-22 01:00 UTC). I can now get to my groups, but the files sections of several groups (I didn't try them all) list files but they're not accessible. Photos shoed in one group, square blank placeholders in another, and in another few no photos at all. If they're trying to fix those sections, there's clearly more work to do yet. Donald The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it.? --George Orwell |