Hello Moderators,
? ?I'm a new moderator for a 700-person group and have a question about backups.? We've just converted over from Yahoo Groups but did not try to transfer over historical Yahoo postings.

? ?We have two moderators with owner permissions, so we are backed up that way.

? ?However, reading through the Groups.io forums, I see references to people doing what appear to be file backups of messages, images, and membership lists.

? ?Is it necessary to do our own backups of messages, images, and membership lists?? My expectation is that that is something Groups.io should be already doing for the entire platform.

? ?Thanks,
? ? ? ? Jim Sterken

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 12:01 PM, Scott Mohr wrote:

Thank you Bruce- I can see that all topics are moderated.? In this group we don’t need that- how can I turn that off for all topics, all members?

Scott -- Based on what you've sent us so far, the group is not moderated, but topics are getting moderate without your intervention. On that basis I can only guess that you've previously set up the group to moderate topics after some period of time.

Go to Admin>Settings, click open the Message Polices tab, and uncheck the box indicated in the screenshot below. Be sure to save your changes.

Any existing topics that have already become moderated due to this setting will have to be manually changed back using the instructions I previously sent you.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

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Scott, I find it puzzling. You find that all topics are moderated, but your group is restricted and members are unmoderated.
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/35170

There are a few things that you could look at.?

There is a setting that automatically sets this: Moderate Topics Older Than [n] Days

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On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 01:24 PM, Nivard Ovington wrote:

As far as I can see your last discussion must have been elsewhere as it doesn't show in the message archive of this group

It was on beta, specifically . Mark locked the topic after 12 posts; I get the feeling (possibly incorrectly) that he wasn't happy with it...

Chris

On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 09:31 AM, West Coast Compa?eros Staff wrote:

I would submit this to [email protected] with the hashtag #suggestion rather than identifying it as a bug.

Since Mark paid $500 for the design as is, and it's the official logo of Groups.io, I wouldn't expect it to be changed, but I can't speak for Mark.

Duane
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 06:31 AM, Laurence Marks wrote:

This is peculiar. The envelope icon appears to generated with blue lines and "transparent" instead of white for the fill. (Favicons support transparency.) The area outside the envelope should be transparent, but the area inside the envelope should be white. I would call this a "bug." Is that supposed to be reported here or somewhere else?

Larry

Larry,

I would submit this to [email protected] with the hashtag #suggestion rather than identifying it as a bug. It makes sense to me that the logo be redesigned with white fill instead of transparent. The current design, when utilized as a favicon, is illegible against black, and some other dark, backgrounds. It is invisible against dark blue backgrounds.
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 08:31 AM, Laurence Marks wrote:

but the area inside the envelope should be white. I would call this a "bug."

I think the actual design is transparent.? See for more details.

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This is peculiar. The envelope icon appears to generated with blue lines and "transparent" instead of white for the fill. (Favicons support transparency.) The area outside the envelope should be transparent, but the area inside the envelope should be white. I would call this a "bug." Is that supposed to be reported here or somewhere else?

Here are screen shots when Groups.io is the active tab and when its tab is inactive. Now that you've advised me to look closely, I can barely make out the little envelope. I'm not sure you will be able to see it I had never noticed its appearance.

Larry

Thanks for everyone's responses.? I am pretty clueless about things like this -- I don't even own a TV or a smart phone -- and so I appreciate the guidance.

Hi Laurence

As far as I can see your last discussion must have been elsewhere as it doesn't show in the message archive of this group, just one mention of it in your reply Feb 9th to "Re: Absentee Owner Succession feature "

I have only been using groups.io since early January this year but that icon has always been there

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

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Laurence,

And Groups.io is the only one with no favicon at all.

I propose that in the group settings there could be three options:

1. Display the Groups.io favicon

I think option 1 is already implemented:

Against your tab bar's background color it is all but invisible, an unfortunate coincidence.

Shal


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You might consider staying on as co-owner in order to help out if something goes wrong. We have seen many people here say that the owner has disappeared, etc. and they are stuck.
Frances

Things fall from the sky.
I have see 2 long-term unrelated co-owners die within a month. The 3rd did not heed my insistance of a. Immediate mod-temporary-promotion. She took a 1 month trip and her email was hacked at a hotel and she is now in limbo... powerless, while still, "an owner."

SEALS? say, 2 is 1.
1 is none.

Have a spare key. Or have 2 co-ownerS. Or 3...! Skills can be learned. Choose a good heart.

BillSF9c

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:46 PM, Ann Ward Purcell wrote:

I am turning the group over to a new owner and want to change the log-in from my personal email address to hers.?

Ann -- There is no groups.io function that reassigns your login credentials to someone else.

Do I just enter her email address instead of mine in Account/Email and then click "Change Email"??

No. That will initiate an account merge. You don't want to do that. Trust me!

You can readily promote someone who is already subscribed to your group to an Owner per the instructions previously provided by Frances. Having done so, you can then demote yourself to a mere Member, if you want. However, I concur with Frances that you stay on as a co-Owner for awhile to help bring her up to speed. This seems more reasonable than abandoning her to sink or swim.

And will that change cause notifications and permissions requests to go to her email address instead of mine?

Demoting yourself to Member should automatically turn off any unneeded permissions and notifications for you.

Promoting her to Owner will automatically turn on full permissions for her.* Any notifications that she may wish to receive will have to be turned on separately (see /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-moderator-notifications-about-group-activity?and /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/sending-and-receiving-group-owner-email-messages).

Hope this helps,
Bruce

*If you promote her to Moderator, her permissions will also have to be set manually.?

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I'd like to open the favicon discussion again, without the heat that was generated by the last discussion. It will be an optional feature, enabled by those owners that want it, and ignored by those who don't.?

Favicons are the tiny (usually 16x16 pixels) images that appear on the tabs of a tabbed browser. They facilitate switching among tabs when several are open. They are used almost universally. In the image below you will see favicons from well-known outfits like AT&T, IEEE, Amazon, Google, and Wikimedia. But you will not see a favicon for Group Managers Forum or NC-LTRGs.

In the early days of HTML (during the "browser wars"), before it was standardized, browser producers like Netscape and Microsoft introduced features to appear better than the competitors. Microsoft introduced the favicon (icon of a Favorite website) which later became a part of the official standard. There have been some false and biased reports claiming that favicons are dangerous or inefficient. (Seriously, how much damage or workload could you get from 256 bytes?) Unfortunately, during the last discussion, that false report was cited and the discussion veered from really addressing the merits of the proposal.

The merits are obvious. The image below represents my typical browser layout. In fact, I currently have two such images open. They include several tabs for the research I am currently doing (my retirement gig), several for the volunteer work I do (Boy Scouts, disaster recovery), several open as reminders for to-dos, work and personal emails. As you can see in the annotated image, almost all of the tabs except are readily recognized. AT&T's corporate blue is a little too close to Chrome's default tab color. And Groups.io is the only one with no favicon at all.

I propose that in the group settings there could be three options:

1. Display the Groups.io favicon
2. Display a favicon provided by the user
3. Display no favicon at all

The third one could be the default, to satisfy those owners who don't want a favicon. If the first or third one were the default, it would ease the setup burden for new group owners.

Hoping this email and image will generate more light and less heat than last time.

Larry

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:46 PM, Ann Ward Purcell wrote:

I am turning the group over to a new owner and want to change the log-in from my personal email address to hers.? Do I just enter her email address instead of mine in Account/Email and then click "Change Email"?? And will that change cause notifications and permissions requests to go to her email address instead of mine?

You should promote the other person to owner.?
See?/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-moderators-and-additional-owners

You might consider staying on as co-owner in order to help out if something goes wrong. We have seen many people here say that the owner has disappeared, etc. and they are stuck.
You could change your notices so that you get fewer. ?Go to Subscriptions on your group and change your moderator notifications.

Frances
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I am turning the group over to a new owner and want to change the log-in from my personal email address to hers.? Do I just enter her email address instead of mine in Account/Email and then click "Change Email"?? And will that change cause notifications and permissions requests to go to her email address instead of mine?

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 04:36 PM, Anita L wrote:

She has a free group and marked when it gets
close to the limit of attachments or memory for the earlier ones to be removed.
It says she is out of space. So when or how does the earlier attachments get removed?

Anita -- Old attachments are not deleted in real time based on this setting. I believe that job runs once a week. At that time, enough attachments will be deleted to get her back to 95% of quota, if possible.?

This setting applies only to attachments. If File and Photo uploads are taking up all her quota, those must be deleted manually.

Regards,
Bruce

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