Bob,

For instance, I cannot delete my messages in group mgrs (this group).

If you can't, here or in any group, it is either because you aren't logged in, or are logged in with an address different than the one that posted the message in question.

Look at the upper right corner of the web page. If it has buttons to Log In and Sign Up then you're not logged in.

If it shows your name, hover or click there to see the email address you used when logging in. Compare that to the email address at the very bottom of the footer of any message from the group, next to the Unsubscribe link.

Shal


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Thank you, Duane.
The Manual was just a bit daunting because of its huge amount of content, and I was "trying to wing it" but was unsuccessful.
I have now created a few Notices and made them Active. Easy once I knew how!!

Now another question which I cannot find answered in the Manual, but the problem is knowing exactly what to search for!!

At the bottom of a Test message posted to our group before we add members, there is a small print Links footnote:

However I would prefer to use something like the GMF has (below).? Where can this be defined, please? Obviously (??) Mute This Topic is irrelevant - or is that so a user can opt NOT to receive a certain thread of messages?

Janie . . .

On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 14:57:32 -0800, "Bruce Bowman"
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Yes, as Chris stated...via the More pull-down menu. Unlike Edit Message, there is no group setting to disable this.

I would let the person know he or she can delete their own posts and
it's not your responsibility to do so. Also I would let them know you
can't delete them on all the computers where it was sent to as that's
not possible.

Sounds like either this person just likes to make trouble or they
wrote something that they regret. That's on them, not you.

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On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 01:29 PM, Janie wrote:

We have a member who keeps bugging the mods to remove this post, remove that post, because they were showing up on google search. (Group privacy settings have since been updated to stop that)?

As Ken stated, doing so is kinda closing the corral gate after the horses have already gotten out. Although the privacy setting will help, there's nothing to keep other group members from forwarding anything that arrives in their inboxes.

But anyway...

Can't a member remove his own posts?

Yes, as Chris stated...via the More pull-down menu. Unlike Edit Message, there is no group setting to disable this.

Regards,
Bruce

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On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 10:41 PM, Bob Bellizzi wrote:

It's not always allowed.? For instance, I cannot delete my messages in group mgrs (this group).

Odd, because I could edit or delete any of mine here.

Chris

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 05:42 PM, Gina Pera wrote:

My responses to each applicant are personalized—won't work with a generic auto-send Welcome message.

Gina -- Open any subscriber's record in the Member List and you'll find a Send Message button at the bottom of the page.

On the resulting message editor screen you can select the +owner address in the From: pull-down menu.

Regards,
Bruce

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Thanks, Frances.

My responses to each applicant are personalized—won't work with a generic auto-send Welcome message.

An auto-send Welcome message already goes out to explain group rules and guidelines.?

I read those discussions. Wanted to make sure I was getting the latest info.

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Thanks, Donald. Good luck with your experiment. At this point, I can't risk it! ;-)

It's not always allowed.? For instance, I cannot delete my messages in group mgrs (this group).
It's dependent on the way the group is set up.
I also cannot Edit my own messages here, in this group, once I've posted and have it approved by a moderator..
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On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 01:10 PM, Wolfram Schneider wrote:

How can I import them into the new group?

There is no import function.? All you can do is go through the files you received to verify that you use the same settings on the new group.? It might be easier to just open both groups in separate tabs, but with all the options available, it might still be difficult to not accidentally skip over something.

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On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 06:29 PM, Janie wrote:

Can't a member remove his own posts?

To actually answer the question...

Yes; it's an option in the More (hamburger) menu under each message.

Chris

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 06:33 PM, Frances wrote:

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Can't a member remove his own posts?

Only if you allow it in Admin, ?Settings.

Having had a quick double check I don't think that is true. The ability of a member to delete a message exists even if editing is disallowed as a group setting.

Chris

I have a group and exported the group settings and notices. I need to set-up a different group where i want to use the same settings and notices. How can I import them into the new group?
Regards,
Wolfram

On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 11:03 AM, Linda Liao wrote:

Are other groups also starting to see an increase in fake member requests from random aol addresses again that seem to originate from IP addresses in India? Today one of them actually sent a response to the automatic pending subscription member notice with a "thank u." (But no response to the actual member questions)?

Same here - about 50 over the last two months.? And I also got one that responded to the questionnaire and said they lived in Dallas, although the IP address was in India.? I replied if the India address was temporary and asked what their interest was in our group.? No reply so far.

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On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 01:29 PM, Janie wrote:

We have a member who keeps bugging the mods to remove this post, remove that post, because they were showing up on google search. (Group privacy settings have since been updated to stop that)?

Can't a member remove his own posts?

Only if you allow it in Admin, ?Settings.
See?/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/customizing-group-settings/message-policy-settings?single=true

Disable Editing Messages

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Select this checkbox if you do not want to allow members to make changes to the content of their own messages in the message archive (that is, after the messages have been posted to the group).

Note:?Owners and moderators can still edit messages that are pending approval. Moderators can also edit messages in the archive if they have the appropriate permissions.

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We have a member who keeps bugging the mods to remove this post, remove that post, because they were showing up on google search. (Group privacy settings have since been updated to stop that)?

Can't a member remove his own posts?

Christos G. Psarras:

I don't know, but at the very least, keep tabs and info somewhere so if it
does get to that point again we can have the info ready?quickly.

I agree. I have a new pending member with a strange aol account, apparently from Holland.
My group is restricted and prospective members must introduce themselves to be approved, so I am not particularly worried, but I'll keep all info in case of a new invasion of fake accounts.
Cheers,
Marina

Bruce,

For group owners, there already exists a page to do bulk actions at
the topic level. It was never added to the menu system because it's
just a little too powerful.

As I recall, there were two things that held this back.

First was that it enabled bulk deletion of topics, which (for reasons) incurs (or incurred) a very large load on the servers. Mostly the need to clean up everything that points to those messages. Mark had some ideas to improve this, but I don't know if that ever happened.

Second was that there is no "Undo". That's the "too powerful" part - make a mistake and you're stuck with it. Even support can't restore the deleted topics. Again, a substantial development effort would be required to support this.

This strikes me as a parallel to that, but now you're opening it up to
subscribers...who know even less about the system than owners do.

Presumably subscribers wouldn't have the Delete option, or any other option not normally available to subscribers. I don't *think* bulk update of Mute/Follow status would overload the servers, but I could be wrong about that.

Concerns about implementation effort, or resource usage, can only really be evaluated by Mark. So I wouldn't let these concerns deter someone from suggesting it on beta.

Shal


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On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 08:30 PM, Bruce W Fairhall wrote:

But where do I mark it as ACTIVE?

That's a couple of pages up in the manual, /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-member-notices/creating-editing-or-deleting-member-notices

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