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Re: Posting an Owner message to the group (was: Changing Owner to Administrator)
On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 06:51 AM, Wolfram Schneider wrote:
It keeps the 60 when coming back. However, it seems stuck with that number. I want to change to 300, but it doesn't keep 300. When I go back to the page, it is stuck at 60. I cleared browser cache and cookies to no avail.Are you using a browser bookmark? If so, it will contain the original query string. Any suggestion on how to change it permanently to a different number?If that's what you're doing, edit the existing bookmark. ? Hope this helps, Bruce Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual |
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Re: Free group - no files section is that right?
On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 06:57 AM, David C. Partridge wrote:
Basic groups always used to have a files section, when did you guys remove that.None of us removed it, that was done by GIO management on August 24, 2020 for groups created after that date.? You could still store files and photos, but they'd need to be sent as attachments. Duane -- The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center. GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki |
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Re: A way to pre-authorize subscription requests?
#addmembers
Curt,
The problem we are having is that most Gmail users who apply to aThis can also be a problem with Groups.io's confirmation requests, to +subscribe as well as the other email commands. I've suggested on beta that Groups.io use modern authentication techniques (similar to DMARC) to eliminate the need for a confirmation in those cases where the From address of the email command can be authenticated. But naught has come of it yet. Our members are very reluctant to set up an additional accountI don't know if you want to tell your members this, but successful use of +subscribe (or Invite or Direct Add for that matter) includes the automatic creation of an account for the member's subscribed address. In effect is not possible to be subscribed to a Groups.io group without a Groups.io account backing the subscription. That said, the member doesn't need to be aware of that account or interact with the web interface in any way. If they don't then the account has no password and is used simply to hold a Time Zone & date formatting settings and a default Display Name that will be in common to all of their group subscriptions. Assuming they ever subscribe to other groups. The Default User Settings panel in the Default Sub Settings tab of your group's Settings page lets you pre-set the Time and Date stuff on behalf of your new members (those who haven't already joined another group or otherwise created a Groups.io account for their subscribed address). ... and we don't need the browser-based features of Groups.ioIf a member ever wants to look onsite for older messages, or your group does start using some members-only features, a benefit of the automatic account is that they don't need to go through any Sign Up process for an account - they've already got one. They don't have to set a password or think about any account settings. All they need to do is Log In, using either the "Email me a link to log in" or social login methods. Shal -- Help: /helpcenter More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Some in-message photos do not display
Pete,
A member of one of my premium groups sent a message that includes tenThat sounds worthy of a #bug report in beta. Shal -- Help: /helpcenter More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Some in-message photos do not display
A member of one of my premium groups sent a message that includes ten photos. Six of the photos display properly when I click on their thumbnails. The other four go to a "400 Bad Request" page. However, in the "Emailed photos" album, all of the photos display properly.
Per the list at [groupname].groups.io/g/main/attachments, the total size is 1.7MB. Any ideas? Pete |
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Re: A way to pre-authorize subscription requests?
#addmembers
On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 10:28 AM, Shal Farley wrote:
I'm afraid that you are too optimistic. |
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Re: Notice when a member leaves a group
On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 07:36 PM, M Parker wrote:
I have been tidying up the membership list for my group and I have noticed that if a member "leaves" a group thereby generating a "Left" entry in the Past Members list an email is sent to the list owner notifying them. But if a member leaves by deleting their account, generating a "Deleted Account" entry, no email is sent.I didn't know that deleting your account would leave an entry in Past members or the activity log. So I learned something today. Is this a deliberate omission or am I missing the subtlety between "left" and "deleted account"?Leaving a group is not the same as leaving groups.io...such a person could have subscriptions in other groups. In contrast, I think it's safe to say that if someone goes to the trouble of deleting their account entirely they don't want to be bothered with any more messages from this source. Regards, Bruce ? -- Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual |
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Re: A way to pre-authorize subscription requests?
#addmembers
On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 01:35 AM, Curt Gowan wrote:
Is there a way to upload a list of email addresses to pre-authorize approval of subscription requests?Going back to your original question. You said you are interested in moving to Premium. If you do so, as Shal mentioned, you can Direct Add. It is so valuable when you have a long list, many people pay just for a month of premium so they can do it this way, instead of inviting people. See this help page: /helpcenter/gettingstarted/1/step-10-invite-or-add-members-to And /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-members/premium-and-enterprise-member-management-options?single=true Frances ? -- GMF wiki for help.?Search box at the top of each page. Check out the?new groups.io Help Center??Use your browser to search or download?the PDF. |
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Re: A way to pre-authorize subscription requests?
#addmembers
On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 09:24 AM, Curt Gowan wrote:
The problem we are having is that most Gmail users who apply to a Yahoo group by sending an email are not seeing the ?"Please confirm your request" automatic replies from Yahoo Groups. Gmail marks them all as spam -- and the spam folder in Gmail is hidden. From the Groups.io Help for members:
Joining a group by email If you have been given the subscription email address for the group, or you happen to know the group¡¯s name, you can send an empty email message to the subscription address to join the group (or request membership, if the group is restricted). The format of the subscription email address is:
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(Substitute the actual group name for groupname.)
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! Important: After you send a message to a group¡¯s subscription email address, you will receive a confirmation request message from Groups.io. You must respond to that confirmation request to complete your subscription and join the group.
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Tip: For other email addresses you can use for actions related to your group membership, see Standard group email addresses.
?And in the Owner's Help: /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-members/handling-members-marked-as-not-confirmed?single=true Frances -- GMF wiki for help.?Search box at the top of each page. Check out the?new groups.io Help Center??Use your browser to search or download?the PDF. |
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Re: Pls put a search facility on the help pages.
On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 09:17 AM, Veronica Jones wrote:
?I agree. In the meantime, I use the other ways to read it and then my browser's search. View the manual as a single page. - searchable with browser; handy because it gives a specific URL for posting here or on my own groups.
View a PDF version of the manual. - readable and searchable with browser.
Frances ?
-- GMF wiki for help.?Search box at the top of each page. Check out the?new groups.io Help Center??Use your browser to search or download?the PDF. |
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Re: Pls put a search facility on the help pages.
On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 08:17 AM, Veronica Jones wrote:
Pls put a search facility on the help pages.I'm not sure what Help pages you're referring to.? On Wiki pages, there's a Search box at the top that will search the entire wiki.? For any other page, you can use the built-in search function of your browser, . BTW, this is a user-to-user group.? If you want to make suggestions for site changes, you need to make them on the where management will see them. Duane -- The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center. GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki |
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Re: A way to pre-authorize subscription requests?
#addmembers
Curt,
Not trying to game the system.I didn't intend to imply that looking for a way to pre-authorize a membership request was "gaming" in the pejorative sense, merely that I think it is unfortunate that there might exist this reason to avoid using Invite or Direct Add. Given the care our team has taken in vetting applications over the 20I doubt that spamtrap addresses ever come about that way. The services that create them are specifically trying to avoid using any address that has ever had legit use. They want to be reasonably certain that anyone sending to that address must have harvested the address from their website. Or bought a list from someone who did. And that's about the only way I can think of for one to appear in a Yahoo Group's list: some overly enthusiatic group owner attempted to grow his/her group by acquiring lists of addresses. Basically, acting like a spammer. Sounds like that would not apply to yours. Agree on people marking invitations as spam. ... there will beAnd a reasonable RBL operator should know this too. Not about invitations specifically, but that user errors or misjudgemnts happen. An RBL operator shouldn't be too trigger-happy with end user spam reports, even if they see a burst of them flagging messages from a given IP address. For example, Gmail, marks confirmation emails from Yahoo Groups asI've noticed that specifically for MODERATE notices in the last few months. Never happened to me much before, so I've been marking them Not Spam when received. I did find a way to promote my Spam folder to the main list (above the More divide), but what I should really do is set a Filter for them. But there's so little traffic in those groups that it isn't really a big deal. My bet is that, as Groups.io grows in membership and volume, GmailThat's possible, but I'd hope unlikely. That is, I'd hope that Groups.io mods wouldn't be flagging confirmations as spam. If Gmail sees members read and delete them normally, or reply, or click links through them, then those confirmations should gain a positive reputation in Gmail rather than a negative one. I've been imagining that some number of Yahoo Group mods/owners may be marking the notices from Yahoo Groups as spam out of frustration: the subscription control to turn them on or off at the source is no longer available. One cannot even demote a mod or owner to stop notices that way. Shal "Just try to relax, it will all be over soon." -- Verizon, and every villain of fact or fiction -- Help: /helpcenter More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Still don't understand how to STOP posts from showing up on Google!! Help.
On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 10:04 PM, Janie wrote:
Both 3 and 4 work to keep your group messages private from non-members and Google. Whether you want to be listed in the directory depends on whether your group is interested in getting new members from the general public or not. Check out the?new groups.io Help Center??Use your browser to search or download?the PDF. |
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