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Re: Changing Owner to Administrator
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> No, not in 12 Step/Tradition programs which I stressed in the beginning. We are not any type of sports teams, or other examples given. There is NO authority in 12 Step/Tradition programs. No bosses, no hierarchy. I realize a need to handle any spam type problems.?
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Teresa -
It might help to consider groups.io in terms of a meeting place, and not the structure of your group. Whether you meet in a church, a?school, a public facility, or? private building, that?place needs an owner who is responsible for maintaining it and seeing that the lights work and the heat is on. In these times, groups.io is acting like that meeting place.
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Think of the group owner and the moderators in that light. The owner is like the building manager. They are?responsible to see that the facility is available and they act as an interface between the group and outside world. Moderators are people who make sure the room is ready, the lights are on, and the coffee's made. They don't run your group, but they are essential to your group having a good space for your meetings.
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I'm a group owner of several groups, and moderator on a number of others, but I consistently use the title of "list janitor" in those situations. I am someone who facilitates the group's operation. I can also be a member, and in those instances I just sign my name like any other member. But when the toilet won't flush or someone has a problem getting into the building, I take the responsibility of helping them. But the groups run themselves. They generate their own discussions and provide a place for others to bring wisdom, questions, and often hard-earned lessons.
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I hope this helps you with your quandry.
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Dano
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Re: Changing Owner to Administrator
All too sadly many of us are finding that there is a large? "authority" minded mentality group in the? !2 Step/Tradition world. When in power in the internet world there is the resulting chaos and drama on a regular basis. Many of us realize that ego is ready to jump to the front and work to fight it in ourselves.?
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 02:45 PM, Gesine wrote:? A "Chair" still has powers that a typical member would not, same with a "Secretary" -- so there is still "power-over", as feminists would call it.... If we are saying there is no hierarchy, no difference in power, between "Chair" and "Secretary" and "Member", we are lying to ourselves. |
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Re: Changing Owner to Administrator
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 09:24 PM, TeresaQ wrote:
Frances: The "owner" and "moderator" terminology is just about hidden from the members at large.Yes. There is a "group owner" email account but most members never use it. You can email to the group or reply to a member from it. /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/sending-and-receiving-group-owner-email-messages Frances -- GMF wiki for help.?Search box at the top of each page. Check out the?new groups.io Help Center??Use your browser to search or download?the PDF. |
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Re: Changing Owner to Administrator
No, not in 12 Step/Tradition programs which I stressed in the beginning. We are not any type of sports teams, or other examples given. There is NO authority in 12 Step/Tradition programs. No bosses, no hierarchy. I realize a need to handle any spam type problems.?
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 09:37 AM, Chris Jones wrote:?A hierarchy of some sort is implicit in Chair and Secretary Thanks Frances. So you're saying that no one can see that I am the "owner"?? Only I can see it at the top of my page?? Frances: The "owner" and "moderator" terminology is just about hidden from the members at large. If "directory" is enabled, it doesn't show there. Messages a moderator sends aren't flagged with "moderator". The owner and moderators' names aren't on the homepage of the group. If no one can see who the mods or owners are then there would be no need for administrator to be used as a display name. Am I understanding you correctly?? |
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Re: Converting MBOX or PST for Groups.io Use?
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 06:26 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
You will need to get the messages in mbox format.Specifically, it needs to be mboxrd according to Mark (owner of GIO.) Duane -- The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center. GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki |
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Re: Converting MBOX or PST for Groups.io Use?
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 07:13 PM, Scott Mohr wrote:
Yahoo has already nuked the archived content for the old Yahoo group.Yep, that happened on Dec 17 of last year. All we have is one person who has emails from that group going back 5 years.? He¡¯s able to get me either an MBOX or .PST file of the content.? Anyone have any ideas on how we could make that content available to a Groups.io email group?You will need to get the messages in mbox format. Once you do, there are several options listed at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/15860? I suggest you read through that and come back with any remaining questions. Regards, Bruce ? -- Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual |
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Re: Bouncing members
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 07:14 PM, Alan Melia wrote:
I see that all the 'bounced' members have Yahoo addresses. Perhaps they only had these for Yahoo groups.Alan -- That's very common.?Not only did a lot of people get YMail accounts specifically for Y!G and end up not using them, of late Yahoo has been culling those that are inactive. By "inactive," I mean accounts that have not been logged into in the past year. Apparently, a POP or IMAP connection with your mail client does not count as a login. In fact, my own was only recently deleted. If at the beginning of a month you notice a bolus of Yahoo Mail accounts start bouncing with a "554 mailbox is disabled" error, that's why. Regards, Bruce Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual |
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Converting MBOX or PST for Groups.io Use?
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Team- I¡¯m moving a Yahoo group over Groups.io.? The new listserv is going fine but we¡¯d like to try to make old content from the Yahoo group accessible.? Yahoo has already nuked the archived content for the old Yahoo group.? All we have is one person who has emails from that group going back 5 years.? He¡¯s able to get me either an MBOX or .PST file of the content.? Anyone have any ideas on how we could make that content available to a Groups.io email group? ? Thank you! Scott Mohr- IS Manager Chowchilla Elementary School District ? |
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Re: turn off footers?
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I would have thought the sensible thing would be to try and train your subscribers to trim replies if they repeatedly quote the footers and no doubt previous replies as well A lot of this I put down to subscribers using smart phones (or not so smart phones if you know what I mean) Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 30/10/2020 16:50, Jeff McAffer wrote:
I've been looking all over the settings page and doc but can't find where you turn off the default footer with all the message management links. I see where you can add footer text but not where the "Groups.io Links" can be removed. The footers doc page has good detail on what links are there and what their for but not how to turn them off. |
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Re: turn off footers?
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 03:53 PM, Jeff McAffer wrote:
I searched in GMF and while I did find some passing references to "you can't do that", I did not see anything saying why??Jeff -- At a minimum, every list email must contain an unsubscribe link for legal reasons. I cannot speak to the rest of the content or why there aren't more configuration options available. In reading the doc I came across the followingYes, but not much.?See also?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/5452? Regards, Bruce? Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual |
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Re: Bouncing members
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 05:29 PM, Alan Melia wrote:
Hi all I have read the owners manual on the topic. I makes a distinction between bouncing (blue B) and bounced (red B) members, howeverit does not explain the significance of those terms."Bouncing" means groups.io is sending bounce probes and trying to get the recipient to respond. "Bounced" means it has given up. See?/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/additional-information/groups-io-bounce-handling? for details. I seem to have 'bounced' members who have accepted a bounce probe after the last recorded bounce. In some cases this was several months ago. Is this because thhe accepted the probe but did not do anything about it?Receiving the probe does not clear bouncing status. The subscriber has to respond to it by clicking the link therein, or click on the banner that appears when they log in. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/files/Bounce%20probe%20example.pdf? for an example of a bounce probe. I have one member in the list who bounced over a year ago but is in the bouncing list, but not flaged with either a red or blue B, I know he is receiving messages because I see his replies. Is this just a historic status?This sounds like a bug of some kind. Could you send us a screenshot of this? Regards, Bruce? Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual |
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Re: Deleting Messages
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 01:49 PM, Beth Minahan wrote:
Not sure what you mean by legacy enabled?Beth -- Basic groups can have various grandfathered features based on when the group was created.?See?/g/GroupManagersForum/files/Groups.io%20features%20%28includes%20legacy%20stuff%29.pdf?for details. This does not apply to Premium groups. Regards, Bruce Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual |
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