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Re: Why Am I Not Getting a Digest?

 

Evelyn -- On further investigation, you have two subscriptions in GMF. You changed the optonline subscription to Plain Digest on Oct 26 but not the gmail one.

The two should match now.

Regards,
Bruce?
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Re: Why Am I Not Getting a Digest?

 

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 10:40 AM, Evelyn Leeper wrote:
I have tried several times to change my subscription to digest for this group.? It worked for three digests' worth once, but it's now back to individual emails.?
Evelyn -- There is no record of this in the activity log. Are you sure you didn't attempt this change in another group (perhaps a Yahoo group)?

(When I look, the plain digests button is checked.)
When I look (at /g/GroupManagersForum/editsub), you are on Individual Emails, and always have been.

I will make this change for you.

Regards,
Bruce
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Why Am I Not Getting a Digest?

 

I have tried several times to change my subscription to digest for this group.? It worked for three digests' worth once, but it's now back to individual emails.? (When I look, the plain digests button is checked.)

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Evelyn C. Leeper
Re: What is the maximum number of members - basic plan

 

The number of members of a list is not really a good indicator of 'work'
that groups.io might have to do. A very large group, but very low message
rate could be less emails than a rather small, but very active group with a
high message rate. With the whole spectrum in between, it isn't easy to set
a limit on those numbers that would fit all. At least that's my view of it.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

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Re: New group owner

 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 06:31 PM, Debbie Henderson wrote:
I set up a Group name identical to our Yahoo! group back in January.

If you created a free group in time to get legacy features, you wouldn¡¯t want to delete it.?


Frances
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Re: Questions about Digest Options

 

Thank You Paul for the advice.? I have a FULL digest backup running to another email address, but not as an owner, so I will change this.? We do have 2nd owner that is not me, and 3 additional moderators.

My member did confirm after I sent instructions that digest have returned.??

I am grateful for the GMF, this is much less frustrating then managing a Yahoo group, send emails and being ignored, towards the end; and while I would search and did find some of the answers needed for a Y! Group, this is a better solution.

Be Safe everyone!

Tamra
Re: New group owner

 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 06:31 PM, Debbie Henderson wrote:
I created an email account for the owner, separate than my individual account so I could easily pass on ownership in the future. Problem is, I cannot remember the email account name.
I'm not sure what you mean by "email account name." For login purposes, only the email address matters.

Is there a way to recover it or delete the Group and start over?
If you cannot log in as the group Owner, you will not be able to delete the group. If you can, then it seems that you really don't need to.

Send an email to [email protected]?(substituting the actual group name, of course). With luck, the email should arrive at the address that owns the group. Log in using that address and you should be good to go.

Regards,
Bruce
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New group owner

 

I am the moderator of? a long standing Yahoo! group. We want to move the group to Groups i.o, for obvious reasons.? I set up a Group name identical to our Yahoo! group back in January. I created an email account for the owner, separate than my individual account so I could easily pass on ownership in the future. Problem is, I cannot remember the email account name. Is there a way to recover it or delete the Group and start over?
Re: New members are moderated when they shouldn't be

 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 06:18 PM, Jenny Levine wrote:
I thought the combination of restricted to join + messages are not moderated would do that, but newly approved members aren¡¯t set to ¡°Can Post.¡± It takes another step for me to manually set their posting privileges to not moderated, which I¡¯m trying to avoid doing.
Jenny -- I highly recommend against that. "Can Post" is a posting?override that you can apply to individual members if your group is otherwise moderated. If your group is set up correctly, you shouldn't have to do that for each and every member.

If incoming messages are still being moderated, the log entries will tell you why. At this point I suggest you open your activity log and tell us what it says.?

Regards,
Bruce
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Re: New members are moderated when they shouldn't be

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Hi, Chris ¨C

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I started with that setting where membership is restricted to join, but messages are not set to moderated (see attached screenshots). I¡¯m fine approving people to join the list, but I want them to be able to post once they¡¯re approved without any moderation. I thought the combination of restricted to join + messages are not moderated would do that, but newly approved members aren¡¯t set to ¡°Can Post.¡± It takes another step for me to manually set their posting privileges to not moderated, which I¡¯m trying to avoid doing.

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Jenny

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chris Jones via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 4:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] New members are moderated when they shouldn't be

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 09:06 PM, Jenny Levine wrote:

It¡¯s not in Spam Control

Actually it is; the first line in Spam Control is Restricted Membership; the second is Announcement Only Group, and the thrid line is Message Moderation.? This has a drop down with 3 options. It seems likely that yours is set to All messages are moderated. This becomes the group moderation setting.

It might be worth considering the next line? - New Members Moderated -? which can be set to automatically unmoderate new members after 1, 2, 3, or 4 approved messages.

Chris

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Re: Changing Owner to Administrator

 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 05:44 PM, Peter Cook wrote:
You can change that by going to their Moderator Notification settings (under each one's member profile). I have several moderators for each of my groups and most of them don't get all of the emails that I get.
(That was a reply to Mimi.)
Re: Changing Owner to Administrator

 


Gesine & Teresa Q, I'm coming up on 33 years myself...
Jenny
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OK, you're in the 12 step/tradition universe -- I think you're getting overly hung up on terminology --

A "Chair" still has powers that a typical member would not, same with a "Secretary" -- so there is still "power-over", as feminists would call it.
"Owner" and "Moderator" just reflect functions.
If we are saying there is no hierarchy, no difference in power, between "Chair" and "Secretary" and "Member", we are lying to ourselves.

And, you're kinda asking a very large universe, the entire universe, to change their existing terminology, to fit what you want.
No offense, so then, what if someone else wants to call this "Raptor" and "plant eater", and "plant", or somesuch?? does then change to that?? etc?

I have been goddess willing, sober for 31 years -- initially I tried to join several 12 step groups, but was very put off by their rigidity, and I do realize not all such are like that.? But you might consider focusing on the substance, and not just the terminology.? Yep, terminology CAN matter a lot!? (feminist here!) -- but in this instance, it seems like it's not such a big difference from what you're currently using --

and if you have a totally nonhierarchical online universe, you end up with usenet -- which became very hostile chaos pretty quickly.


Our group is a 12 Step/Tradition program group. I realize Yahoo had "owners" while other forums tend to have "administrators". For any of us in the group to feel a need to be owner goes against our Traditions of equality. Trying to be Tradition minded on the internet hierarchy format is close to impossible, I realize. I don't know how much could be changed....

Yet, is it possible to change from "owner" to "administrator"? That would be closer to "Chair", "Secretary" that we are accustomed to.?

Thanks for listening. Teresa Q

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Re: Changing Owner to Administrator

 

Mimi,

>>> For our group, it would be better if the Owner actually was a different level. As the owner, I do not want the moderators/administrators to have to deal with a bunch of emails that are technical,

No need for a different level for what you want to do, ?and ...

>>>?If I go on vacation, I would like to be able to flip a switch and have the moderators get those emails in my absence. But that is not possible

the functionality you are looking for is already there; just like you can set your own notification preferences, so you can of the mods:

Logged-in as the group owner, go to Admin -> Members, and select Mods from the blue button. ?Then click on the mod you want to modify, go to their Moderator Notifications area and disable the ones you don't want that particular mod to get. ?This will stop them from getting those emails.

Cheers,
Christos
Re: Changing Owner to Administrator

 

Hi Teresa Q and all,

OK, you're in the 12 step/tradition universe -- I think you're getting overly hung up on terminology --

A "Chair" still has powers that a typical member would not, same with a "Secretary" -- so there is still "power-over", as feminists would call it.
"Owner" and "Moderator" just reflect functions.
If we are saying there is no hierarchy, no difference in power, between "Chair" and "Secretary" and "Member", we are lying to ourselves.

And, you're kinda asking a very large universe, the entire groups.io universe, to change their existing terminology, to fit what you want.
No offense, so then, what if someone else wants to call this "Raptor" and "plant eater", and "plant", or somesuch?? does groups.io then change to that?? etc?

I have been goddess willing, sober for 31 years -- initially I tried to join several 12 step groups, but was very put off by their rigidity, and I do realize not all such are like that.? But you might consider focusing on the substance, and not just the terminology.? Yep, terminology CAN matter a lot!? (feminist here!) -- but in this instance, it seems like it's not such a big difference from what you're currently using --

and if you have a totally nonhierarchical online universe, you end up with usenet -- which became very hostile chaos pretty quickly.

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 01:11 AM, TeresaQ wrote:
Our group is a 12 Step/Tradition program group. I realize Yahoo had "owners" while other forums tend to have "administrators". For any of us in the group to feel a need to be owner goes against our Traditions of equality. Trying to be Tradition minded on the internet hierarchy format is close to impossible, I realize. I don't know how much could be changed....

Yet, is it possible to change from "owner" to "administrator"? That would be closer to "Chair", "Secretary" that we are accustomed to.?

Thanks for listening. Teresa Q
Re: New members are moderated when they shouldn't be

 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 09:06 PM, Jenny Levine wrote:
It¡¯s not in Spam Control
Actually it is; the first line in Spam Control is Restricted Membership; the second is Announcement Only Group, and the thrid line is Message Moderation.? This has a drop down with 3 options. It seems likely that yours is set to All messages are moderated. This becomes the group moderation setting.

It might be worth considering the next line? - New Members Moderated -? which can be set to automatically unmoderate new members after 1, 2, 3, or 4 approved messages.

Chris
Re: Changing Owner to Administrator

 

You can change that by going to their Moderator Notification settings (under each one's member profile). I have several moderators for each of my groups and most of them don't get all of the emails that I get.
Re: New members are moderated when they shouldn't be

Jenny Levine
 

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Thanks, Duane. Where would I find that setting for all users (not just an individual)? It¡¯s not in Spam Control or Message Policies, and searching the wiki doesn¡¯t help.

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Jenny

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Duane via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 3:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] New members are moderated when they shouldn't be

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 03:23 PM, Jenny Levine wrote:

approving a new member still doesn¡¯t give them ¡°Can Post¡± status.

Their status will be Use Group Moderation Setting.? The only way for someone to get "Override: Not moderated" status is for you to set it.

Duane
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Re: Changing Owner to Administrator

 

For our group, it would be better if the Owner actually was a different level. As the owner, I do not want the moderators/administrators to have to deal with a bunch of emails that are technical, yet they get all the same emails I get (which is many!). I would prefer to be able to filter some of them at least some of the time. For example, I do all the membership and message approvals under most circumstances. If I go on vacation, I would like to be able to flip a switch and have the moderators get those emails in my absence. But that is not possible. Because I recognize my mortality, I think it is a mistake to not have someone already authorized to take over the day-to-day list management, so I have moderators already identified. They would probably rather not getting all the emails constantly knowing I get them and take care of them.
Re: Member not getting group e-mail

 

There's another option for this situation.
Check at her profile under advanced preferences if the selection is not "all messages" (the one on the red frame see attachment) the member will not get emails from the group.
See?

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 22:11 Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 01:50 PM, Barbara Jean Jasen wrote:
In her member listing it shows under deliveries OK dirdel
That means it was accepted by Yahoo, so it's in her account someplace.

Duane
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Re: New members are moderated when they shouldn't be

 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 03:23 PM, Jenny Levine wrote:
approving a new member still doesn¡¯t give them ¡°Can Post¡± status.
Their status will be Use Group Moderation Setting.? The only way for someone to get "Override: Not moderated" status is for you to set it.

Duane
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