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Re: How Can I Suspend Activity of a Group? #howto

 

Thanks to both of you for the info. ?But I do need an answer to Francis' question: Can I change back from an Announcement Group to a regular group with messages moderated and posted. ?It is imperative that I am able to do that. This would only be a time-limited suspension of member posts.

Ann


Re: How Can I Suspend Activity of a Group? #howto

 

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 08:20 PM, Ann Wild wrote:
How can I suspend activity in my group for a period of time so that messages can't be posted by members and moderators not be notified...
Not sure what you mean by "and moderators not be notified." Do you mean avoid receipt of pending message notifications?

?...BUT that would allow a moderator to send out messages---either a daily announcement or a periodic reminder?
If you make your group an Announcement group, only Moderators and Owners will be able to post. You can do this in your Spam Control setting.

? Is there a way to send out a Special Notice on a daily basis, if needed?
Automatically?

The only way I know of to automatically send a message on a daily basis is to set up a recurring calendar event (or a single event with multiple reminders). Even then, it's a clumsy kludge at best.

If you set the Special flag on the corresponding #cal-xxx hashtag then it will go out as a special notice.

? If a group can be suspended, what does a member receive if he/she tries to post a message?
Messages sent to an Announcement group by non-Moderators are bounced with the following note:

500 This is an announcement group and you do not have permission to post to it.

Regards,
Bruce

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Re: How Can I Suspend Activity of a Group? #howto

 

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 08:20 PM, Ann Wild wrote:
How can I suspend activity in my group for a period of time so that messages can't be posted by members and moderators not be notified BUT that would allow a moderator to send out messages---either a daily announcement or a periodic reminder?? Is there a way to send out a Special Notice on a daily basis, if needed?? If a group can be suspended, what does a member receive if he/she tries to post a message?
How about changing your group to Announcement? That allows owners/moderators to send out notices or posts.

In Help -?3.5.2 Announcement-Only Group
Select this checkbox if your group is to be an announcement-only group rather than a discussion group. Only moderators will be allowed to post messages to the group.?Example: Groups.io Updates is an announcement-only group.

Any gotcha's though? Can Ann change back when she is ready?

Frances
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Re: QUESTION - group message links

Ellen Bourne
 

This is the copy and paste emailed that one member has been using to send emails.? They negate to use Groups.io to send emails.? They just place the below email into their personal email and send.? They cannot see why they cannot do this because it is an additional step.

However the email goes into the activity log once they emailed.

Is there away I could block the the copy and paste of the email link but not block the member?



How Can I Suspend Activity of a Group? #howto

 

How can I suspend activity in my group for a period of time so that messages can't be posted by members and moderators not be notified BUT that would allow a moderator to send out messages---either a daily announcement or a periodic reminder?? Is there a way to send out a Special Notice on a daily basis, if needed?? If a group can be suspended, what does a member receive if he/she tries to post a message?

Ann


Re: Access to Member list only see a very small number of the users

 

Went back are re-read your reply. ?I didn't realize there where two ways to view member information. ?I changed the settings so members can see the "Member List".

Thanks again :D


Re: Access to Member list only see a very small number of the users

 

Correct I meant Directory. ? ?I was hoping to use it as a "Address Book" so members could find each other. ?It appears that almost everyone has opted out of making their profile visible. ? So this solution will not work.

Thanks :D

Joe


Re: Is there a group where troublemakers are listed?

 

...
BB> To be honest, I find the very
> notion of group owners getting
> together to create a joint
> subscriber blacklist to be just
> a little disturbing.

NO| Not only disturbing, but rather
| pointless. Any would be trouble
| maker has only to use a false
| name and a throwaway address
| and the black list is bypassed.


Two very good points in that matter.
Thank you both for sharing your opinions.


[ ] Rubens












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Re: Access to Member list only see a very small number of the users

 

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 03:00 PM, Joe Hamblin wrote:
This question has probably been asked before, couldn't find anything. ? I have changed permissions so any member can see other members and email address.
When a regular member signs in they can only see four members, do not see the much larger number of users. ? I need to know what is going on and how I can
set a policy for all members of the group.
Do you mean Directory or Admin: Members?

See?/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/viewing-the-directory

/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/viewing-the-member-list

I think you must mean Directory - since there are only a few showing. An important note in the Manual -?Only members who have chosen to make their profile visible can see other members who have opted to be included in the directory.

See also with images:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/6114

Frances

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Re: QUESTION - group message links

 

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 10:32 AM, Ellen Bourne wrote:

Is there away to block the groups distribution list link from being copied.

Can you share an example of the link you're thinking about? I'm not quite sure which feature you're asking about, and the answers vary based on which feature.

-- Christopher Warrington


Access to Member list only see a very small number of the users

 

This question has probably been asked before, couldn't find anything. ? I have changed permissions so any member can see other members and email address.
When a regular member signs in they can only see four members, do not see the much larger number of users. ? I need to know what is going on and how I can
set a policy for all members of the group.

Thanks :D


QUESTION - group message links

Ellen Bourne
 

Is there away to block the groups distribution list link from being copied.

This is to prevent someone who is receiving emails to copy it and email the group at a latter time but not block the member.??

[subject enhanced by moderator]


Re: unintentionally posting to the whole group

 

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 01:24 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
So if he clicked on "reply to group" (instead of using the reply function of his email client) this would happen.
It could be that he simply hit his mail program's "reply to all" button (not any of the links provided by groups.io).? Either out of habit, or thinking that it was a private conversation and wanting to include anyone else in the "private" loop.

The underlying problem is that messages from groups.io are sent with headers which make MUAs (mail readers) "help" by including the group-post address in their built-in "reply to all" function. ? This happens EVEN IF the group is configured to only offer "Reply to Sender" and "No Other Options", so there is no "reply to group" link provided by groups.io in the message.

There's an open bug in beta.groups.io about this.? Mark tried removing some headers which seemed likely to be causing this, but that didn't work.


Hiding main group and subgroup info on home page

 

Is it possible to hide the names of the main group and member-visible subgroups on the home page to the public?
By "public" I mean someone not logged in or not a member of the main group.

There are two things I want to do:

1. Make not show the name of the main group and its various email addresses to public viewers. These seem like just an invitation to be a nuisance.

2. Hide home page subgroup listing for the public viewers, but make subgroup list visible to main group viewers.

I know I can make the subgroup invisible to non-subgroup members, which would remove it from the 2. list (I think), but I don't want to do that, because it also makes the messages inaccessible to non-subgroup members, which I don't necessarily want to do for main-group but not-subgroup members.

Thanks,
Dan


Re: Group Owner Email "Sent" folder? #email

 

Thank you for your responses. I would like to see the feature added in the future. For now, I will try Bcc: to me.
Karin


Re: Is there a group where troublemakers are listed?

 

Not only disturbing, but rather pointless

Any would be trouble maker has only to use a false name and a throwaway address and the black list is bypassed

I don't know how many trouble makers others have had but I can count them on one hand in many years

Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

On 17/07/2020 13:54, Bruce Bowman wrote:
To be honest, I find the very notion of group owners getting together to create a joint subscriber blacklist to be just a little disturbing.
Surely this is something we can take care of on a case-by-case basis.
Regards,
Bruce


Re: Is there a group where troublemakers are listed?

 

To be honest, I find the very notion of group owners getting together to create a joint subscriber blacklist to be just a little disturbing.

Surely this is something we can take care of on a case-by-case basis.

Regards,
Bruce

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Re: Is there a group where troublemakers are listed?

 

And how many of these "troublemakers"do you get, really, on an annual basis?? I agree the nature of a certain person could cause repeat behaviour, but is one person also a member?of that many different?groups or is it just an ?solated outbreak:you can handlel?locally".???

With very best regerds?

Jan ,??

Op vr 17 jul. 2020 om 10:25 schreef W David Samuelsen <sammyslc@...>:

There's a problem - consider this - ham radio operators and genealogists are two different groups.? Genealogists have many lists and there's one group of listowners including me, we will get in touch with each other real fast to review what necessary actions to take ourselves. Apart from the scammers and spammers.

David Samuelsen

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:51 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 06:30 PM, Donald Hellen wrote:
I thought I've seen mentioned here that there is at least one group
where bad actors are listed so other group owners could check a
pending member against the list before approving the membership. Is
there one?
I'm not aware of one.? Any list like that would be personal opinion, so I wouldn't trust it much.? It may be wrong or someone with a personal vendetta.

We have mentioned scammers and spammers here, but only after the situation has been verified by Mark.? I understand he's doing a lot more monitoring of some things now, so those situations don't come up much any more.

Duane
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Re: Is there a group where troublemakers are listed?

 

There's a problem - consider this - ham radio operators and genealogists are two different groups.? Genealogists have many lists and there's one group of listowners including me, we will get in touch with each other real fast to review what necessary actions to take ourselves. Apart from the scammers and spammers.

David Samuelsen

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:51 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 06:30 PM, Donald Hellen wrote:
I thought I've seen mentioned here that there is at least one group
where bad actors are listed so other group owners could check a
pending member against the list before approving the membership. Is
there one?
I'm not aware of one.? Any list like that would be personal opinion, so I wouldn't trust it much.? It may be wrong or someone with a personal vendetta.

We have mentioned scammers and spammers here, but only after the situation has been verified by Mark.? I understand he's doing a lot more monitoring of some things now, so those situations don't come up much any more.

Duane
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Re: EMAIL DID NOT GO THROUGH

 

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 12:58 AM, Ellen Bourne wrote:
One of the members sent an email around 12:08 pm this afternoon and again at 6:38 pm both of the emails never were sent or received by the group.
Is / was there an issue?
A common issue is that the person sent the email to Groups.io from an address they are not subscribed with. As Duane said, the Activity Log is a good place to start checking. In particular, look for messages like:

Non-member <email-address> attempted to send message "<message-subject>" via email

If a person has a need to send a message from a different address, they should define an alias for their account. Details are given in the Member's Manual for this.

Andy