Bruce,

Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. As per usual, the answers were right there, I just didn’t know where to look.

Thanks to your direction I investigated more thoroughly and here is what I found, as well as some thoughts about wikis in general.

1.???? To view wiki activity, you must be either an Owner or Moderator

2.???? Within the Admin sub-menu, Activity is the bottom option.
To view Wiki activity you will have to individually check the following options from the drop-down menu:

1.???? Added image to wiki

2.???? Added wikipage

3.???? Deleted image from wiki

4.???? Deleted wiki revision

5.???? Deleted wikipage

6.???? Modified wikipage

There are valid reasons for monitoring the activity on your wiki, they include but are not limited to:

1. Check content to ensure it meets the group's standards of conduct
2. Verify content fits within the group's scope
3. Check formatting
4. Check links
5. Check for copyright infringement
6. See who is actually using the wiki
   1. Helps to see if it is being used by the group as a repository
   2. To encourage their continued participation
   3. To help them with technical aspects

What should be our reaction when someone does something that is "against the rules"?

Getting other people to participate is truly the biggest challenge any wiki creator faces, the problems listed above are secondary.

I have been promoting wikis for over 10 years and have NEVER had anyone do something intentionally malicious.
They have made mistakes, but that is what they were, mistakes, honest mistakes.

Do you want to?discourage?them? Make them angry? There is a REALLY easy way to accomplish this:
Delete their post.

However, if you want to?encourage?them to continue to contribute, just change their behavior, there is a much more productive way to do it.
Communicate privately with them and let them know what needs to be changed, explaining the reasons why.
Ask?them?to make the necessary changes.
Be kind about it.
Thank them for participating.

Usually a lot of thought and effort goes into creating a wikipage,?
Much more than most messages.

Respect their effort.

Bill

Most of us don't write anything when we forward a petition or some other action alert though, so I've had the experience a lot that members on digests get blank emails. When I realized it was an issue, there was some bug with it even when people did write something. I've not checked back into that since, but I'm hoping that bug got fixed by now. I'll track down the thread about that, so I don't hijack this one.

I have noticed though that almost all platforms I've worked with have varying problems with digests. I think there was only one Mailman list I was on once that displayed each email in digest in perfect html (my preference for that list), and retained attachments, and the whole thread of a conversation, and didn't truncate longer posts (just discovered Google Groups does that, and Yahoo Groups did too). Digests seem to be one of the trickiest things to do well.

Isis

Restricted Membership, where you have to approve people before they can join the list, only applies to people who ask to join. If you invite them they are pre-approved, the assumption being that you approve of them joining the list or you wouldn't have invited them.

You could also upgrade to premium for a month and just add the list of members you have. That would speed up the transfer and you wouldn't have to keep track of which ones of the 2000 haven't responded to your invitation and keep sending them invitations until they join.

Jonathan

Just out of curiosity, have you asked her why she changes?? If she has a serious problem with someone nasty finding and hacking her, it's understandable that she changes.

Sandy


At 06:56 PM 1/16/2020, you wrote:

I found it! ?I had to click on New Topic in the left margin, and then I was able to send an email to the whole list and it had the checkbox for special notice.

Hi there,

am just testing with about a dozen membes on our new gorup before inviting the other 2000.??

In settings, it seems I either have to approve each new member OR moderate their 1st post.? The site settings seem to mandate this for spam control.

How is the best way to proceed wih tthis?? I plan to invite our existing, vetted member list who do not need approval/moderation for a week or two and would prefer tp not have to approve them or their first message.? How do I make this switch easy?

thanks.? Hope my question is clear.

Hi Frances,
I'm trying to send a special notice from the group site. ?I can't find the message box, let alone the special notice box above the message box. ?Can you help me? ?So far what I have gleaned from this archive is that to send a message to the group I have to click all the members' names and then use the action pulldown at the bottom of the page. ?Someone mentioned that you can make the list of members infinite instead of 25 per page, but I can't find a setting for that either.
Thanks,
Sally

That works for current members, but not for former members from when the group was in Yahoo. The email addresses of those former members are displayed in their old messages, but this field can't be searched for.

Hello,
I am thinking of creating a sub group, but I’m not sure what the advantage is between a sub group and a regular group. Also, when I decide to make one, I want to sub group messages and posts to be only visible to the main group and the sub group members. Which privacy option would I choose?
Blessingss,
Fabien

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On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 04:56 PM, JoeLox@... wrote:

Does anyone know why the View/Edit Row is not shown on some databases?

I think it depends on how the database was set up.? If you're not the group owner/moderator or the table creator, you may not have that option visible.? I haven't really checked into that aspect, but that's my guess.

Duane
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On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 03:32 PM, Doug Raymond wrote:

But is the Easy Yahoo Transfer still available, to do a clean transfer of messages to my existing groups.io group, nicely formatted, searchable?

No, but there is information about using the YG provided mbox file file at /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Moving-to-Groups.io#Upload-Services

Duane
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On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 03:25 PM, Peter Keenan wrote:

For some reason as a Moderator on two different Group sites, one works, the other does not.? I've compared settings and was wondering if that was owner controlled.

Sort of, it depends on what privileges they give the moderator.? There's a list of them at /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Promotion%2C-Status-or-Permissions-Change-to-Moderator-or-Owner

Duane
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Does anyone know why the View/Edit Row is not shown on some databases?
? ?I have many databases that it appears in, but some it doesn't.

Thank You
Joe

Thanks, Bruce.

What is the process to submit an enhancement request to Groups.io?? I want to request enabling search for the email address used when posting.

Regards,
Stan

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 04:50 PM, Stan Garfield wrote:

If not, any other ways of doing this?

Stan -- One more thought...you can always export your messages (Admin>Settings>Export Group Data button at the top). The resulting mbox file does contain header information. Open it in a text editor, and do a search on that for the desired search string[s]. Mbox files can also be opened in Thunderbird or Apple Mail and probably some other email clients, too.

Not particularly convenient, but if you find yourself in desperate need of this, it might serve.

Bruce

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 04:50 PM, Stan Garfield wrote:

The Past Member list does not work for past members from a migrated Yahoo group. It only shows members who left after the group was migrated to Groups.io.

Is there a unique posterid available for members who left before the group as migrated?

Posterid is the primary subscription identifier. A single account/email address can have multiple posterids, one per group.?

The way I understand it, only accounts that are 1) currently active in your Yahoo group and 2) not in Bouncing status, are transferred. At that time, a groups.io account is created for each of those email address (if not already present) and a posterid in your group is assigned.

Later in the same transfer, incoming messages are compared against those email addresses and if any matches are found, they are mapped to the corresponding posterid. If there is no corresponding email address among the subscribers, the posterid is left empty.

Something similar happens if a person leaves the group. This leaves such messages orphaned, as far as these kinds of searches are concerned.

If not, any other ways of doing this?

As I mentioned earlier, for activities that occurred after the transfer, you can search the Activity Log for his email address. But for posts that occurred before the transfer, for people who are not current subscribers, I really think you're stuck with sig line content or quoted text or other such references that may have appeared in the message body.

Regards,
Bruce

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Christos -

Another way around this (the lazy problem) might be to add a line to the footer,
With a well labeled description/tag. "New Topic"
/g/GroupManagersForum/post

That pulls me right back to the Group site from my third party WEBmail.
(So it does not solve everything for all...)

Rick