On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 10:26 AM, John Pearce wrote:

I was hoping to see the Group addresses in the message footer be mailto links in the emails that members receive.? They actually show up as text rather than links so folks have to cut and paste the addresses into a new email.? I did at some point check force html in the message formatting section but I don't remember what the footer displayed before that time.? Is there something I may have done or not done to get those to display as mailto?

John, you are receiving this group (GMF) as Summary. That's barebones. Not sure how you receive your group emails, of course.
Change to Full Featured Digest or Single to check it out.

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On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 05:53 AM, <sequoia.eyes@...> wrote:

Here are the clauses in the Groups.io TOS that don't seem clear to me (bold added):

You agree to not use the Service to:

1. email or otherwise upload any content that

5. (v) constitutes unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, promotional materials, commercial activities and/or...any other form of solicitation;

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7. advertise or offer to sell or buy any goods or services for any business purpose that is not specifically authorized;

In 1.5, does anyone know how the word "solicitation" is being used and whether the word "unsolicited" refers to everything in that clause? I'm hoping that describing to potential group members the kinds of business emails I would be sending/posting would take those emails outside of the definition.

For 1.7, can anyone point me to the list of business purposes "specifically authorized"? (I do see "Types Of Groups That Aren't Permitted" on the Help page: /static/help#types-of-groups-that-arent-permitted. My group would not fall under any of these.)

I appreciate any help you can give me. Even if you can't give specific answers to my questions, perhaps examples of how businesses have been properly using Groups.io might be helpful.

Marcella,

The full wording of 5?(v) is: constitutes unsolicited or unauthorized advertising, promotional materials, commercial activities and/or sales, “junk mail,” “spam,” “chain letters,” “pyramid schemes,” “contests,” “sweepstakes,” or any other form of solicitation;

I am not sure about your second quotation (advertising).
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I was hoping to see the Group addresses in the message footer be mailto links in the emails that members receive.? They actually show up as text rather than links so folks have to cut and paste the addresses into a new email.? I did at some point check force html in the message formatting section but I don't remember what the footer displayed before that time.? Is there something I may have done or not done to get those to display as mailto?

John

On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 08:06 AM, Donald Hellen wrote:

If you set it so members can't upload files, let them know to get in
touch with you and have them place their file in a Dropbox (or
similar) account and send you an invitation to download the file. Then
you can upload it. This may not be a frequent request, so it might be
the way to do it.

This is most workable and I have implemented the policy in the groups I moderate.
Uploading a file is a piece of cake. Once it is done, all members can be notified by marking a box in the upload screen.

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Reading my own message has given me the Clue to get out of the email fix.

Now I’ve switched to pasting the Digests directly into New Topics on the group website, starting with the most recent.

Which, when read Expanded read from top to bottom as one single continuous story :-)

Moreover, by creating these in an Announcement-Only Sub-Group called ‘Yahoo Archive’, I don’t risk ‘live’ messages getting embedded between ‘archive’ ones as I plod through the uploads.

Whether these pasted messages display correctly, only time will tell, but at least Shal’s shown me where to dig for the Bodies :-)

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(Though I notice that another Forum product (Tapatalk) treats all members using the same computer as clones, viz if Dad is a Moderator, all his kids become Moderators too, which is plum crazy.)

David 1/2d

Thanks, Shall, I’ll give it a go.

My ideal target is for a new member to be able to open the old messages in Expanded View and read them from top to bottom in order - no gaps.

David

Jim,

If I tell it to add a custom message and include my newly created
invite it merely appends it to that first original message that I am
trying to get rid of. What am I missing?

You can't delete the boilerplate message, and yes the boilerplate cites your display name as having made the invitation.

See also:
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/69594439

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David,

Are there quotas on how many messages one can post in a given period?

There is, or was, a rate limit of 40 messages in 30 minutes.


It is possible that the limit has changed since then, possibly in response to the great Yahoo migration.

Nor could I post from an email alias, nor as a different member with
a separate email address.

That's interesting. Maybe there's more to your symptom than just Groups.io's rate limiter.

Shal


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Richard,

I couldn't find any setting that chooses between a topic view or an individual-message view.?

It isn't a setting, it is a menu to switch the viewing mode of the Messages list.

And when I reply online to a post, the reply becomes a new topic rather than appending to the message replied to

Are you sure, or did it just look that way because you were looking at the list in Messages mode?

Shal

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David,

The majority of messages display just fine, but about a third only
display the top part of the content; occasionally only one or two of
the 50 Yahoo messages.

At the point where the message is cut off, is there a blue box that says "Show quoted text"?

If so, click that. That's based on the theory that something about the content at that point is triggering Groups.io's response to top-posting (hides the bottom-quotes).

If not, perhaps there's something funky in the HTML at that point that causes Groups.io's render to believe it has reached the end of the message content.

At first I imagined the message must be arriving incomplete, yet when
I go into Edit Message, there it all is, right down to the last full-
stop.
But on closing the Editor, the display remains as broken as ever.

If you know your way around HTML code you might be able to diagnose and fix it using the Source Code tool in the message editor.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Message-composition-tips-and-tricks#-C2A0Source-code

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I have a group that I created a year ago.? The original invite file had my name in it.? Now that original message is what Groups.io tells me it is going to send to an invitee.? Tonight I deleted the invite file and created a new one but when I go to the invite page to invite someone it still includes the text of that very first message and no way to edit or modify it.? If I tell it to add a custom message and include my newly created invite it merely appends it to that first original message that I am trying to get rid of.? What am I missing?

Thank you.

Jim

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I’ve been uploading Yahoo Archives to a new ?group as small batches of Messages.

Each message is a few hundred kb in size.

I’m the Owner of the Group.

Yesterday I’d posted about 15 such messages, around 5Mb in total, when my email program refused to post to ?any more.?

The same server would post to anywhere else but.

After a break of some hours, I managed to get another few messages through before it locked-up again.

Nor could I post from an email alias, nor as a different member with a separate email address.

Or is it me??

My computer??

My email provider’s server?

?in overload??

Does my own Group think I’m spamming it?

I’ve been at this over six hours, desperate to get it done before I need to go off grid, and I’m ground down!

Suggestions, please - I’ll clutch at straws,

When I accessed my group today, I found that 'start merge' and 'merge into' are no longer available in the drop-down menu, And when I reply online to a post, the reply becomes a new topic rather than appending to the message replied to. I couldn't find any setting that chooses between a topic view or an individual-message view.?

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Help! (please)

I’d like to get the Archive loaded before letting the Users back in, and they are hammering on the gates (we deal in Serious Illness).

Thanks, David 1/2d

Tommy,

While over at Yahoo, I've seen this practice on a few rare groups.? So, it's possible to the same here on GroupsIO.? hmmm You have me thinking.? Thanks!

BMaverick
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June,

The MAIN Group has messages, files and photo sections.

SUB-Groups have their OWN messages, files and photo sections.

Now, with that said, any owner or moderator can turn on or off those functions for either the MAIN or for SUB-Groups.

When I created our first sub-groups, I have to understand that whilst in the sub-groups, all the tools on the left column were only applied to the sub-groups.? The very top of the screen blue bar that says, "Your Groups" is the way I toggle between the MAIN and any of the sub-groups under the MAIN.?? It best to know at what level you are working at and how to leave and enter any other level.

For my group, we have a few groups that were related to our MAIN on Yahoo.? Thus, The primary group became our MAIN on GroupsIO and all of the 4 related groups became sub-groups.? I'm rolling over the sub-groups to basically be the archive from Yahoo.? Read-only for sub-groups.? Members can even download the files and photos too as read-only.? The main group going forward will have everything combined.?

GroupsIO is VERY FLEXIBLE to meet all kinds of needs.? Yet, there is some deep thought into all of this to keep it simple for non-computer geeks like me. haha

BMaverick

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 07:28 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Karen -- At least one person has recently (January 9) reported that groups.io will import your mbox file in exchange for a Premium Yearly payment. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/69538488#27265?for a discussion, and also the ?(15th bullet).

Yes, we placed a support request via the support email. Mark got back to us on Jan. 6.? I provided a zip of all the mbox files we obtained from Yahoo via "get my data" Jan. 7 by putting them on an FTP site for Mark to download.? On Jan. 8 Mark indicated he had begun the import.? By that evening, we had our archive.? Prior to opening the support request, I had pre-created an empty subgroup for the archives to be loaded into (we already had some traffic in the main group, and I didn't know how the loading of 17.5 years of Yahoo messages might affect those).? It all worked beautifully.? We are a pre-paid Premium group.

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On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 01:59 AM, Gesine wrote:

hi peeps,
For one of the groups I run, which has multiple moderators of differing levels of experience, we made a **separate** group, for us moderators.

Works well.?

Part of why we decided to make a separate group is, one of the mods is very un-savvy re tech/internet stuff, and we wanted to keep the "moderator discussion group" definitely separate than the group itself.? Gesine?

^^^? THIS!

Thank you all for the advice; it's all been very helpful.? In our case, we already have another subgroup, so the creation of another subgroup (the resultant change to the main group addressing) isn't a concern.??

Gesine has put into words what I see as the greatest benefit for us, which is that, while we don't have a very large group of moderators (5), we are at varying levels of experience, and so I would like to have a place to document tips, tricks, guidance, as well as for us to discuss the same.

Mainly, wasn't sure if anyone had found a particularly better way to do this... I appreciate all the input.

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