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Re: Completely edit default messages for invites, direct add, etc

 

Paul . . .

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 15:31:01 -0800, "Events events"
<events@...> wrote:

Why are we forced to use these defaults??

This would be best posted in the beta group as a suggestion since we,
as a self-help group, can't make that happen. I don't think we know
why it's not more flexible. I agree that I'd like to customize the
messages.

If you're a premium group owner maybe send a note to support.


Donald


Re: Completely edit default messages for invites, direct add, etc

 

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 06:32 PM, Events events wrote:
Is there something that can be done about this? ?It seems like the default messages do not meet the needs of many group owners. ?

For me, they are too long and emphasize things that are not important to the way that my members will be using Groups.io. ?

Why are we forced to use these defaults??
The main example given was the Invite email.
I don't see a problem.

Here's what is in the boilerplate:

Hello [Name],
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You have been invited by Joe Blow to join the Groups.io group [email protected].
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If you have questions about this invitation, send them to [email protected].
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To accept the invitation, please reply to this email, or you may accept the invitation on the website.
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If you are not interested, or if [Invitee Email Address] is not your email address, please ignore this email.
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Cheers,
The Groups.io Team

That's it! And you can add whatever you wish to the Invite. Even add a hyperlink, colour, different fonts, etc.

What's not to like? And Groups.io even encourages tweaks: ?Optional message to be included with each invite. Customizing your invitation may improve your acceptance rate. It may reassure the invitee that the invitation is legitimate and from you, and may help prevent it from being trapped by the invitee's spam filter.

Surely, some of the boilerplate is?necessary -?who to contact if there is a question,?who is inviting, which group, how to accept.

Frances
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Re: Yahoo extended deadline for content download

 

John . . .

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 18:01:03 -0500, "J Forster"
<JFor.Groups@...> wrote:

Has anyone actually used a Yahoo download to move a group? If so, any hints?
There is some information either here or in the YG equivalent of this
group about a utility that can be used to upload the MBOX format files
Yahoo sends you. It's not easy-peasy though. I think the developer of
the script that does that is Lena, so look for her name to locate
those posts.

This might get you started:

/g/GroupManagersForum/message/22251



Also, is the PG message upload utility fully operational now?
Not yet. You will no doubt see an announcement here when it's ready so
just watch this group for when it's ready.

I'm waiting for the next version to test. I would recommend remaining
patient and consider yourself fortunate as long as you have your group
data downloaded by PGO. In most cases, waiting to upload them is much
better than having to pay $220 to move the group (before the YG!
cutoff for that) or losing the posts altogether.

The developer was also working on a port of GIO groups to phpBB for
hosting on a web hosting service to turn it into a forum of sorts. He
has a separate person doing the coding for the P2G uploader.

As I understand it, the PGO program will eventually be able to archive
GIO content for more thorough searching through the messages. That
will happen most likely after the work on P2G is finished.

Donald


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Re: Completely edit default messages for invites, direct add, etc

 

Is there something that can be done about this? ?It seems like the default messages do not meet the needs of many group owners. ?

For me, they are too long and emphasize things that are not important to the way that my members will be using Groups.io. ?

Why are we forced to use these defaults??

Paul


Re: Yahoo extended deadline for content download

 

Has anyone actually used a Yahoo download to move a group? If so, any hints?

Also, is the PG message upload utility fully operational now?

-John

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On 1/10/2020 4:39 PM, Thomas Gruber wrote:
Hi,
I just received a message from Yahoo that they extended their deadline for downloading content to 31.January.
Maybe interesting for some.
Thomas


Mod's note: not new, but worth a reminder!



Re: Yahoo extended deadline for content download

 

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 05:58 PM, Thomas Gruber wrote:
I just received a message from Yahoo that they extended their deadline for downloading content to 31.January.
Maybe interesting for some.
If you are still trying to move a group to Groups.io, see?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Moving-to-Groups.io

Frances

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Yahoo extended deadline for content download

 

Hi,
I just received a message from Yahoo that they extended their deadline for downloading content to 31.January.
Maybe interesting for some.
Thomas


Mod's note: not new, but worth a reminder!


Re: CANNOT EMAIL

 

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 09:00 PM, Ellen Bourne wrote:
update the email
Not sure what you mean by that...

Chris


Re: Comcast problems again?

 

I had a similar situation with Roadrunner email and the solution was
also similar. I had the option in the email setup on their web site to
have them mark in the subject line SPAM for those messages they
thought were spam but send them on to me and NOT put them in a spam
folder. I use an email client on my PC and occasionally see SPAM on
the subject line. As often as not, the email is not spam.

That was happening after they made a change a few years ago and I lost
some emails that way. I no longer have the problem.

Now I get all messages and I do the choosing of what's spam and what's
not. I don't mind the SPAM appended to some subject lines as it gives
me a heads-up to check to be sure.

Donald

On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 13:06:13 -0800, "Frances" <frances@...>
wrote:

Hope this helps, Annick - see attached email.

/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Comcast.net

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Re: #email #email

 

Ann,


On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:16 PM, Ann Wild wrote:
3)? I no longer copy the address from the Pending Member list, though I do copy and paste it from the notice that I get for member approval from groups.io.? Perhaps that triggers the unwanted address? I don't know.

Just a shot in the dark here, a suggestion to try the next time you do this, as something similar has burned me before and I always do it now, it has become second nature ... ANYTIME I copy an email address from a NON-TEXT email (i.e. HTML or RichText emails like what GIO sends) or from a web page, I paste it first on Notepad, then copy it again but from Notepad now (while fixing anything that needs fixing), as that now guarantees what I copied is just the email address text, and not possibly other embedded info I may not be aware of.

Also, don't just remove any entry from your address book that could be causing this, make sure to also set the "remember reply-to/send-to" setting to OFF as many online email apps or local email client apps will default to ON; when I first started moderating on GIO using email, my Thunderbird "Collected Addresses" book grew up in leaps and bounds with all those GIO approve-pending-message addresses...

Cheers,
Christos


Re: Comcast problems again?

 

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 04:00 PM, Annick Phillips wrote:
I have a couple members on my groups with Comcast email service. One tells me she is getting the messages from a couple of her IO Groups but none at all from the one I own. Her messages to the group come through, but none are getting back to her. She can only see them when she goes to the group website. Another member with Comcast tells me she is getting one or two messages a day and then maybe 20 or more the next. Both people have contacted Comcast and Comcast is telling them either they can't find anything wrong on their end or that it's a problem with the person's email program (MS Outlook). Neither of these people have changed anything on their end, so I tend to think it's Comcast. Anyone know more about this? It is so frustrating for these members. I have advised them to create a new email with Gmail or something else.
Annick
Hope this helps, Annick - see attached email.

/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Comcast.net

Frances

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Re: Subgroup for your own Moderator's Forum? #moderators

 

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 12:58 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
However, I was more asking about advice on the concept of using a subgroup for moderator private discussion, than on advice on how to actually perform message moderation.? Particularly, if anyone has found a more preferred way to coordinate your moderators "body of knowledge".
Here on GMF, we use the +owner address to exchange information, questions, or ideas.? There's usually not that much, so not a problem for us.? We also have a database that can only be accessed by moderators with some notes in it.? Only 9 rows, so again, no problem.

If you want to keep a "large" amount of information available, then a subgroup might be the way to go.? You would have the messages, but could also set up a wiki if you want.? Lots of options on GIO, so 'outside the box' thinking may find other ways.

Duane
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Comcast problems again?

 

I have a couple members on my groups with Comcast email service. One tells me she is getting the messages from a couple of her IO Groups but none at all from the one I own. Her messages to the group come through, but none are getting back to her. She can only see them when she goes to the group website. Another member with Comcast tells me she is getting one or two messages a day and then maybe 20 or more the next. Both people have contacted Comcast and Comcast is telling them either they can't find anything wrong on their end or that it's a problem with the person's email program (MS Outlook). Neither of these people have changed anything on their end, so I tend to think it's Comcast. Anyone know more about this? It is so frustrating for these members. I have advised them to create a new email with Gmail or something else.
Annick


Re: Subgroup for your own Moderator's Forum? #moderators

 

You can reach all moderators by using the [email protected] adress I guess


groetjes, Ronaldo


Re: What are the issues we may face with Direct Adding members? #direct

 

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 09:14 AM, starbucksnetwork wrote:
i really wish there was an operators manual or something.? I did the transfer with the Groupsio bulk transfer facility.??
A few months ago, Mark (site owner) said he had hired a company to write a User Manual, but hasn't given any updates.
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I believe, and I have no proof of this,? but as you add directly Groupsio builds a groupsio account as you go.? So between the invite and the member acceptance,? groupsio has everything it needs to create an account for that member.? At least that is the way it seems like it is working for me.
Anyone that's a member of a group has an account.? They won't initially have a password (and really don't need one if they don't want.)

As far as Direct Adds (or Invites), you can enter them all at once.? There will be a delay if more than 20, but often only a couple of hours.

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Re: CANNOT EMAIL

Ellen Bourne
 

Chris update the email wad sent successfully


On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 1:21 PM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io
<chrisjones12@...> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 05:45 PM, Ellen Bourne wrote:
Chris what area on membership list and what am I looking for
That depends on what you mean by email information". Check that the address from which your member is sending is the one that is registered with your group/Groups.io.

Chris


Re: Completely edit default messages for invites, direct add, etc

 

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 11:46 AM, Mike Strange wrote:
I have yet to find a method of stopping the default message appearing; a message that doesn't suit my needs.
As has been discussed here several times, that can't be done.? All you can do is add the customized message.


The OPs comment about the Invite option below the optional message box, which doesn't appear to perform any function, hasn't been addressed.
The Invite message is another member notice that you have to create.

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New owner help please #howto

 

Good Evening,

I have just moved over from Rootsweb and it's a massive learning curve. However, I am in love with groups.io. I have had a quick search but can't find what I need.

1. A member has asked about replying when he is on summary mode...."Do not reply to this email. To ... reply to a topic click the subject." But then couldn't see any obvious Reply button."?I note that some of my membership are showing as Summary and some as?Summary [R]? please could someone explain the difference and how the subscriber replies to messages from summary (not that I really understand how he can see what he is replying to from summary mode)

2. A member has reported regarding posting an image that "it only seems to accept jpgs, as I found when I tried a bmp [no error message, just nothing happens]" again I could find nothing about image types that would be accepted and which (if any) would not.?

Many thanks for any support you can offer and apologies for the fact you have probably already answered these questions a million times.

Best wishes,

Sherry Landa
Co-owner of [email protected]


Re: Moderator can't View Member List #moderators

 

On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 02:12 PM, Sandy Kozinn wrote:
I had a similar problem until I remembered that I couldn't just go to the list, I first had to click on Admin and go to the list from there.? Not everyone (at least in our group) wants their info available to all other members, but it's all there for the Admins.
Yes, an important distinction between "directory" and members list.
The Admin, Members, is a complete list. Viewable by owner and those moderators with the proper permission.

Directory only lists those group members who wish to appear in the directory and only viewable by those who appear in the directory.

/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Directory-and-Members-List

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Re: Moderator can't View Member List #moderators

 

He tried refreshing the member list ¨C still receives an error when he clicks on the ¡°View Member List¡± in an email to add a new member.? I may try adding another moderator and see what happens when they do that action?

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