On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 11:33 AM, Epicatt2 wrote:

When this happens is there a way –short of deleting the post– to toggle the message to display or hide it from view online at the group's site?

To answer this question - No.

My understanding of the beta suggestion is that would hide ALL messages, making the group email only.

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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 05:33 PM, Susan Pitlock wrote:

I have changed settings to allow members to view and edit.

Did you remember to Update Group, i.e. save the change?

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Hi Ann,

Ok thanks for confirming that everyone can get to the group!

I still can't for some reason :(

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:09 PM, Duane wrote:

An invitation assumes that you've already checked people out and want them on your group, so acceptance allows them in.? If you need to do more pre-checking, you'll need to do it before sending an invitation.

I thought about this for quite some time when out walking the dog. :) If someone applies "out of the blue" and provides a response to the Pending Subscription message in some way that is unsatisfactory (for want of a better word) then they can have their application rejected; no problem. But to my way of thinking inviting someone to join and then rejecting them for some reason seems somehow dishonourable or perhaps just plain rude.

I can just see the point that Cindy made in her post, but only just. Obviously this is a purely personal opinion but sometimes the degree of control that Owners seem to want to exercise crosses the border into micromanagement.

Chris

We just transferred from Yahoo group a month ago. A clean migration of 38,000 emails--thank you very much.
Currently working on 7 of 52 members who haven't engaged. I have one AOL account not responding that has the dirdel response. I checked several of our other AOL accounts and they all get the dirdel response, so I think it may be the rule and not the exception.??

I have a member (not moderated) that is trying to add information to a new wiki page. He is unable to add anything and I have changed settings to allow members to view and edit. Am I the only one (owner) that can start pages?
Susan

Hello GMF Members,

Occasionally a member will ask a personal question of another member but not click on the Private Button so that the question or sometimes the reply alone will get posted to the Message page.

When this happens is there a way –short of deleting the post– to toggle the message to display or hide it from view online at the group's site? I realize that this message may have also been sent out to all members who receive emails and digests, but it might well prove better that that post not remain permanently in the message archives –at least not visibly.

I ask because I've done several searches here on GMF and have not found this specific topic discussed.

NOTE: I checked on Beta just now and saw that the topic had been discussed a while back but that no concrete decision was made and the idea of hiding a post or topic was set to the side for the time being. Wondering now, is it maybe time to reconsider this idea of being able to hide/display a post/topic?

Regards,

Paul M.
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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 04:04 PM, Ann Wild wrote:

I have a another question about bouncing members: Does groups.io delete them after a period of time?

No; they just sit there in your Members List. Once they are "red" bouncing, Groups.io stops trying, but there is nothing to stop you originating bounce probes if so desired.

They will remain in place until you delete them.

Chris

I have a another question about bouncing members: Does groups.io delete them after a period of time? ?If so, how long? ?I have been working to whittle down my number of bouncing members, but still have some left. It is time-consuming. ?Hence my question.

Ann

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 09:56 AM, WBennett wrote:

’m in the section for viewing attachments? (upgrade > view attachments), I’m working my way through from oldest to newest.

I’m about to go to bed and will be closing down the computer. Is there any way to jump to this same page when I start again tomorrow?

I’m currently on page 31 and don’t want to have to start at page 1 again and click? on the arrow to advance one page at a time to get back to 31.

Win -- Short answer:? Bookmark the page in your browser and use that to come back next morning.

Longer, more technical answer:? If you look at the URL displayed in the address bar of your browser, the query string (part after the question mark) will increment by your "items per page" setting as you advance through the list. In your case there should be a "600" as the next-to-last entry in that string...this tells groups.io to start displaying attachments at the 600th entry (base zero addressing).

If you look at this sequence of comma-separated values, the first is the items per page, the second represents the sort key, the third the starting record, and I don't know what the fourth is. Try entering different numbers and see what happens.

Bruce

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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 07:09 AM, Duane wrote:

You could send an email (from a personal/club/business address) with a link to join the group, then use the Pending Subscriber notice to ask specific questions when they apply.

?We often employ this choice and it's become a smooth process. "We" being either the group owner or myself, as mod. One of us sends an email?from our personal or chapter email address to the email address we have been given by a third person. The email we send contains a link to our group's GIO home page. Once there,?they can request to join and?that triggers an email from GIO which requires them to answer a few questions to validate their membership in our organization and their identify. If they respond we know the email address is a "good" one.?

On the other hand, if we already have knowledge and have confirmed their membership status, their identify and the fact that both are linked to a working and active email address, then we send an Join Invitation email and they are added as soon as they click that link.?

Computer skills and the desire to become more familiar with GIO is an entirely different matter. At the very minimum, they need to use email.

It still surprises me how many people have a email address and don't understand how to manage their email account or how an email address empowers them to do things online. Some aren't really sure what their email address or mistype it which is why we validate it before sending invitations to join.?

BTW, one of the reasons we formed a group is to mentor our members in the computer skills they need to perform in their (non profit) volunteer role.
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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 08:28 AM, Peter Haack wrote:

I unchecked the box that seemed to be able to accomplish this and now our site is unavailable?

I'm not sure what you changed, but you might want to change it back (once you can get to the group ;>)? I think I found your group at

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So I wanted to remove the ability for users to be able to request access to our enterprise groups from the main page.? I unchecked the box that seemed to be able to accomplish this and now our site is unavailable?? I have cleared my cookies and all other browsing data, also checked on mobile and other browsers.? An email to the support last night has gone unanswered.? Can anyone else see our groups?? Is there anything that I can do to get it back up and running?? ?

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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 07:42 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:

I know that that was meant as a rhetorical question, but allow me to
answer it: this simple: all you need, is to send mails.

Um, that's the way it works now.? I have many members that have never been to the web site, doing everything via email.

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On 05 Jan 2020 14:08, Chris Jones via Groups.Io wrote:

Your point about "not understanding the concept..." has some validity
but IMHO there has to be /some/ assumption of basic IT skills, and a
willingness to learn more.

No, I don't think it's fair to expect of potential users to have a
specific type of computer skill before they're allowed to join. Though
obviously, moderators love users who are able to help themselves. Not
everyone who uses computers every day knows much about computers.

One problem is that users who struggle, often do not ask for help. When
such users hit a barrier, they simply abandon their attempt to join,
which means that the value of their participation is lost to the group.

Just how basic do people want Groups.io to be?

I know that that was meant as a rhetorical question, but allow me to
answer it: this simple: all you need, is to send mails. The gnomes
takes care of the rest.

Samuel

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:38 PM, Samuel Murray wrote:

Another common scenario is when someone wants to join but struggles to understand how to join. Not everyone understands the concept of issuing commands to a server by sending mail to special kinds of addresses.

Um. What's difficult about clicking on "Join this Group"? Your point about "not understanding the concept..." has some validity but IMHO there has to be some assumption of basic IT skills, and a willingness to learn more. Just how basic do people want Groups.io to be?

Chris

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 10:23 PM, Don Grass wrote:

since you mentioned Chat has there been anything new on that yet? Any improvements yet or in the near future?

Nothing has changed that I'm aware of.? I tried using it a couple of times, but didn't find it useful - email works better for me.? If any improvements are made, I suspect it will be way down the line.

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