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Re: #rsvp #rsvp

 

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 08:52 AM, Bill Patterson wrote:
Member reports that she could not RSVP for meeting because her email was not recognized.
You'll need to get more information to get a proper answer.? My guess is that she's using an email address that isn't a member.

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Re: Database and file number limits

 

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 08:52 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
To summarise: is there a row limit on databases, and is there a file number limit on files?
There's not a hard limit on db rows, see /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/38188093

I'm not aware of a limit on the number of files.

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Re: Candidate members

 

You can use the Pending Member notice.? See /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Screening-New-Members-Using-the-Pending-Subscription-Notice

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Re: bouncing members

 

Hi Terri......
As I understand it, trying to send an email to a Member who is Bouncing will not work. ?The email address is not responding to the email that the Group.io is automatically sending to it so it probably won't respond to one that you send to the same address.

I have the same situation in one of my groups.....maybe 25 members bouncing. ?What I did was to copy all of the bouncing addresses into a message and send it to my whole group, Special Notice, asking if anyone knew any of those addresses to please let me know as they were all bouncing. ?Also, if you want to whole email address to show up in the Message, you need to replace the @ symbol with something like _AT_ otherwise Groups.io will truncate the address off and just leave the name.

HTH,
Chuck



Making old mails available via mail redirect

 

Hello everyone

I'm investigating ways of making old mails available, and while forwarding old mails to the new group is one option, "redirect" seems to be a good alternative.

My mail program (Thunderbird) provides an option to "redirect", which forwards the message in such a way that it looks to the recipient as if the message came directly from the original author (except for a few clues).? There is an add-on in Thunderbird (Onno Ekker's Mail Redirect) that allows me to redirect multiple mails in a single motion.? This means that I can select e.g. 20 messages, right-click and select "redirect", and fill in my group's e-mail address, and hit Send.? However, to use the "redirect" option, the group must allow posts from non-subscribers, because these redirected mails are "from" the original authors.

In my tests (until today), all such redirected mails ended up in the IO group and were sent to subscribers of the group, but some mails broke (this may have been due to a mistake I made when editing the MBOX files manually).? Later today, while testing, redirection stopped working -- instead of using the original sender's address as the "from" address, GIO started using the "mail-from" address of the SMTP service in the?Authentication-Results header line -- and I can no longer approve such messages.? I hope this is temporary.

In IO's web view, these redirected messages are "from" their original authors, although if the author is not known to GIO, the author's e-mail address is munged (although it is visible if you "view source").? In the web view, these redirected messages' sent date is today's date (and you can't see the original sent date unless you look at it in "view source").? As usual, GIO does not add the subject line tag to mails in GIO's web view (although if the Yahoogroup mails had such a tag, it is obviously present in web view).

When such redirected mails are received by subscribers in their mail programs, things are more interesting: the sent date is the original sent date, and as a bonus, threading mostly still works!? The "to" address is the original recipient (i.e. the Yahoogroup), while the "reply-to" adress is the GIO group.? All e-mail addresses that were non-munged in the original mails are non-munged when received by subscribers in their mail programs.

In some cases, GIO rewrites the "from" address (e.g. foo@...?becomes "foo via Groups.Io" <foo@...>) but in other cases, GIO does not change the "from" address. I'm not sure why.? If the original mail was sent to more than one person (e.g. to both the Yahoogroup and to another person), the other person's mail address is also still in the "to" field.

Has anyone had any experience with redirection as a means to make old mails available?

Apart from the fact that one's SMTP service must allow a large number of mails to be sent, and that GIO might block the mails due to some flooding protection, this appears to be a nice method, especially if no-one has joined the group yet (so you can put all the old mails into the group first).

Samuel


Re: Candidate members

 

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 02:49 PM, M. A. Gormez wrote:
I am looking a way to oblige candidate members to fill up and answer few questions before coming new members. Do you have a trick to do?.
Well it's not a "trick" becase Groups.io provides the means of doing this; see the section about "Pending Subscription" messages in the GMF wiki here.

Chris


Re: Bouncing emails.

 

Hi Bruce,

All of my bouncing members with one exception are yahoo email.? I doubt the problem is with yahoo, don't you?? There's an option in the activity box to send an email.? Can I do that?? Will they get it?? I don't know why they'd be bouncing, but my hunch is their dogs are long gone and they don't even want to be on the group anymore.

Thanks,
Terri


Re: bouncing members

 

Terri,

You can see who is bouncing by going to Admin, Members. Use the menu with Members showing and change it to Bouncing.

See this about dealing with bouncing: ?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/dealing-with-bouncing

Frances

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bouncing members

 

I know this is a really dumb question and I should know this, but is there a way to see bouncing members without going through the members list one by one?
I just started and I have a lot of red Bs, mostly old members who probably don't care at this point.? Is it possible to do an email to the group and ask anyone bouncing to email me offlist, or do I have to email everyone of them to see if they want to stay on?
And I know this has been discussed, but how do I unbounce someone?

and how do you see source on group posts?? I should know that too but I don't remember.

Thanks

Terri


#rsvp #rsvp

 

Member reports that she could not RSVP for meeting because her email was not recognized.?


Database and file number limits

 

Hello

I'm investigating ways of making old mails available on Groups.io.

I thought that I found a perfect solution (database) until I discovered that no more than about 5000 rows get imported. Is this a per database limit? I have groups with over 100 000 messages, so if that is the limit, it would take 20 databases (and users searching the archives would have to search in 20 different places).

Searching mails in a database is nice because you can see a "preview" of the posts after you've done a search, and therefore use your browser's find function to find what you're looking for much quicker.

Another way to make old mails available on Groups.io is by uploading them as individual e-mail files (in e.g. HTML format) to the Files section. I have discovered that it is unreliable to try to upload more than about 2000 files at a time, but it doesn't matter in the Files section because a file search searches all folders automatically. Then it's just a matter of explaining to users that they need to install a browser extension that allows them to read the mails in the browser.

But... is there a file number limit?

One downside of using the Files method for making old mails available is that if you want to be able to search within specific folders, you have to create dummy subgroups and use each subgroup's Files section for each group of messages (because a group's file search always searches all files, even if you navigate to a subfolder).

To summarise: is there a row limit on databases, and is there a file number limit on files?

Thanks
Samuel


Re: Confusion on group email addresses #messages

 

On 03 Jan 2020 22:03, Charlie Russell wrote:

In the welcoming message that new members get, it says you can post new topics by sending an email to <groupname>@groups.io.
The welcoming message is automatically created when a new group is created, but you can edit it. In your group, go Admin > Settings > Member Notices > the welcome message.

When you later create a subgroup, the e-mail address format changes, but the default welcoming message doesn't update by itself.

Are these essentially synonymous? Any difference between the two?
Yes, surprisingly, if you have subgroups and even if you have changed the main group's local part, sending an e-mail to the main group's original address will deliver it to the main group (although the "reply-to" address in the received mail will point to new address).

Samuel


Re: How do I enlarge photo on home page of my group?

 

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 09:53 PM, Sarah Breithaupt wrote:
When I upload photo to home page of my group it comes out really small.
If you send us the image as an attachment (preferably zipped, since I don't know of GMT resizes attached images), perhaps then we can tell you if there is anything about your image that raises a flag.

Samuel


Re: Recovering deleted database #database

 

On 03 Jan 2020 21:40, Hakan Karag?z wrote:

Is it possible to recover an old database file that has been deleted?
No, you should make a habit of first exporting before deleting.

You can export a database as JSON (I'm not sure why) and CSV. You can later import rows from the CSV file again (although you have to create the database structure manually first before you import the CSV rows).

The CSV format exported by Groups.io is: UTF8 without BOM, comma delimited, double quotes escaped by doubling, and no double quotes around fields that do not require double quotes.

(Groups.io can also import CSV files in UTF8 with BOM, but it can't import e.g. UTF16LE. It can also import CSV with double quotes around fields that do not require double quotes.)

There appears to be a database limit of about 5000 rows, with no error messages given if you attempt to import more than 5000 rows.

Samuel


Candidate members

 

Hello,

I am looking a way to oblige candidate members to fill up and answer few questions before coming new members. Do you have a trick to do?.

Thanks in advance.

M. Gormez
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Re: Disable or Hide "Emailed Photos" Library #question

 

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 12:47 AM, JeffH wrote:
I would like to hide this album.

Is this possible?
No.? You can disable it by not allowing attachments on the group.

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Disable or Hide "Emailed Photos" Library #question

 

Hello,

I just started uploading a number of photos to a group I am an owner of. I noticed there's an album called 'Emailed Photos' that's already in the 'Photos' section.

This 'Emailed Photos' album gives me no granular control over what's visible in the Photos section & I would like to hide this album.

Is this possible?

Thank you,

-JeffH


Re: problem with .rr

 

Gerald, I agree. The RFC does allow free-form text after the machine-readable three digit codes and some providers (e.g., Yahoo) do provide information, but you are right: there are so many things that can go wrong, laid upon a relatively small set of codes, that ambiguity is the inevitable result.

Larry


Re: problem with .rr

Gerald Boutin
 

On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 03:39 PM, Laurence Marks wrote:
Duane, I have some experience in this. Here are the two messages. While you are correct that 4xy messages are temporary and should be retried and 5xy messages are permanent and should not be retried, more detail is available. The codes are defined in .
This would be great if everyone interpreted and strictly followed the rules the same.?RFC 5321 was issued in 2008. There have been lots of interpretations and embellishments since then. And there are may still be be email servers following rules previous to RFC5321.

Lots more details here:?

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Re: How do I enlarge photo on home page of my group?

 

Hi Sarah,

If you don't have a way to enlarge it, send it to me & I'll try in photoshop. No promises but can try.

Paul, Ohio, USA
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