On 16 Dec 2019 at 11:46, Duane wrote:

On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 01:41 PM, Art Kocsis wrote:

not even partially quoting the original post frequently renders the
response worthless for all but the OP

Only if you don't take the time to go online to read the topic.

Why would those of us who are short of time anyway bother to do that when we
don't know if the topic is of any interest anyway. If people want their
messages to be understood they should take the trouble to ensure that by
quoting enough to make it clear what they are talking about - as you did in
this case.

Jim Fisher

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Discovered I was getting the emails into PGO.? They just weren't visible in the window I was looking at (!)

As for what is still available from Yahoo (Verizon) this seems to vary from time to time.? On my largest list I've only gotten about the first half of it, but plan to keep trying as opportunity arises.

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 01:54 PM, Richard Moore wrote:

Is there any way to control the appearance of the archived postings, as regards fonts, font sizes, etc. Regardless of what font is used in an email that gets posted, the version in the archives usually ends up too small to read. I looked around at Settings and all, but didn't notice anything relevant.

You can try this in settings - message formatting.
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On 2019.12.17 0455, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Now that Y!G online content is gone, I'd appreciate it if someone would
take their registered copy of the PGO application out for a test drive
and provide a definitive answer as to what is and is not working. I
suspect only the member download still functions, and perhaps not even that.

Bruce

Not Registered version, so not answering your question or addressing that data point. However I can report that PGO Trial does find members, all of them, in excess of 1000, on a Y!G I'm "Owner" for (which it wouldn't seemingly do before, why I used/recommended the Chromium Application.)

I swapped Y! accounts a couple of time and verified it would look however could not find File, Photos, or Links.

Of mild interest, when requesting Files it returns a check box in the list choice area, against "root." Which would seem to indicate they have in fact removed either the files or our links (sym links?) to them.

(That begs the Q. have they made more work for themselves to allow account/group associated retrieval up to end Jan? However neither here nor there.)

Re Members retrieval, the Y!G I'm Owner of I received a useful enough two column file (more info via the Chromium Application) and a Y!G I'm a member of, only the subscriber's account name (?) (which sometimes is an e-mail address.)

Cheers, John

Hello!

Can we disable the 'Like' option on the web group? I would like to keep the forum simple and don't resemble Facebook

If there's no option for that, can I request an option to disable it?

Thank you and regards.

Is there any way to control the appearance of the archived postings, as regards fonts, font sizes, etc. Regardless of what font is used in an email that gets posted, the version in the archives usually ends up too small to read. I looked around at Settings and all, but didn't notice anything relevant.

Bruce, thank you. I’ve never used a wiki before and this section has a LOT of useful info. ?I followed the steps outlined to correct the typo in the email address. ?It did not work as I expected. ?I ended up with two groups. The original group and a second with the same name, but different membership. I was not an owner on the second group, or even a member. ?I’m afraid I am just plain confused by this process. ?I started to delete the original group to begin fresh but I got a warning that the name would be unavailable for a while. No explanation of how long “a while” might be. Any thoughts on what I might be doing incorrectly, or how long the name would be unavailable to start fresh? ?We need to transition our Yahoo membership as soon a sI can learn to manage GIO.

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 10:07 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 08:37 AM, T Golding wrote:

Shouldn't all these YG posts be on GMF there?? Might help other people who haven't migrated or aren't migrating.? It's yahoo not .io

To the extent that PGO is used as a means to migrate a group to groups.io, its status is very relevant. We have wiki entries that need to be updated on this.

As for incoming messages about how to post to a Yahoo Group, I agree with you.

Bruce

May I suggest that the Yahoo related questions have the topics flagged with a hashtag. I am having a hard time finding the forest (GIO issues) for the trees.
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On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:57 AM, Bill><> wrote:

I am regularly getting messages from GIO that I am bouncing.

I am the owner and moderator and cannot understand why this is routinely happening about every week?

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Any ideas???

Bill, I see you are using rr.com and there is a message there about mail forwarding. Could that be the reason?

Frances
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On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 03:55 PM, Lena wrote:

Download the memberlist.csv file again from Members - Download.

Yes, this was functioning. Thank you!


On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 10:30 PM, Andrea wrote:

Most times your new implementation works, we worked with it in the
meantime. But for a reason we do not understand this does not always
work, but only in about 50% of the messages.

? Your answer:?
? "What exactly doesn't work? I fixed a bug (a deleted message caused all next messages in a mbox file to be skipped)."

It's about the feature you had implemented which is writing "From" and "Date" in the beginning of the message.
In about 40% to 35% of messages this functions. In about 60% to 65%, there is neither a "From" nor a "Date". In these more than half of cases without "Date" I can't see any pattern. The appearence of ?Date“ or no ?Date“ seems to be absolutly random.
Have you any idea to solve this?

And there is another big problem:?
Sometimes one or the other message is not being uploaded. I did not care to much about that. But today the program imported a message from 27th?December and the next imported one was from 24th?August of the following year. So it skipped more than 2000 messages!
And again there is no hint why the program would have done this.?
(Luckily I had made a subgroup for testing the program!)

I hope, you can help us!

Ingrid

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:57 AM, Bill><> wrote:

I am regularly getting messages from GIO that I am bouncing.

I am the owner and moderator and cannot understand why this is routinely happening about every week?

Looking at your email delivery history here in GMF, I see a lot of "blocked" and "server unavailable" errors. Past posts with the same complaint suggest this is typical behavior for spectrum/charter/rr...it's been reported over and over again. You could complain to Charter, as you are paying them to deliver emails to you, and they aren't holding up their end of the contract. But if you really want it to go away, your best bet is to get a gmail account or something like that.?

At least groups.io tells you what's going on. Yahoo Groups would just silently fail to deliver your stuff.

Bruce

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Thanks Bill.? Now that is a very helpful hint.

Bruce,
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Whilst grabbing the MESSAGES, FILES, PHOTOS or LINKS, PGO reports back this after the deleted content event on Monday? ...
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"Yahoo servers appear to be offline or your IP has been temporarily locked out."
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Now, I do believe the data is STILL THERE as YG is allowing folks to still request a DOWNLOAD before the end of January.? Just that the links are gone and not accessible via ACL permissions on the server.
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And, like you had stated, it will grab the member listing. And more than the YG CSV limit of 1,000.
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For non-owners and non-moderators, the member listing will only show the user name column and the email column is blank.
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On one YG I'm a moderator on, the YG Management tool still shows the ability to manage PHOTOS for the albums.? I found this to be weird.? Almost as if YG support team missed something as the PHOTOS are now gone from our access.?

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BMaverick

Good Morning All,

This morning just now when I checked the status of my two remaining YGroups (GMF being one of them) they have now been converted and there's no longer any access to the message archives, etc. Refreshing those two pages repeatedly did not get my two groups to load any user content.

What remains is the homepage for each one now stripped down to group title, text of group's description, and the Group Email addresses. Plus there is no masthead photo, just the YG generic one. So it now seems that Yahoo's dirty deed is finally 'fate(!) accompli'. . . .

BTW, I had always found it more practical for me to read the new messages online at the YGroups' sites and since I personally do not want email replies from these remaining two YGroups forceably cluttering my inbox I will prolly unsubscribe from them in a few more days.

My appreciation to the YG/GMF for all the help it afforded me over the years. I'll of course be staying on at the GIO version here.

Paul M.
CostaRicaLiving
https: //groups.io/g/CostaRicaLiving
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Ever since Mark said he increased the timeout for reverse DNS lookups I have had ZERO problems with this issue. Prior to that it was one out of 3 or 4 emails that would bounce back. I would say, for the time being anyway, this SOLVED the problem of the "no reverse DNS?error". Thank you Mark!?
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check only "New Users Moderated" and set "Unmoderate After" to "1 approved message".

With that method the first post that a new member sends in will be held pending your approval. If you approve that message that's all you need to do. You do not need to take a separate action to unmoderate the member, that's handled by the mechanism.

This is the minimum effort possible: a single action that is needed only if and when the new member posts a message.

Thanks, Shal, (and, of course, Duane and Frances) for your reply. Yeah, this applies to my case, as there are very many email receivers and only few mail senders in my list.

/Dirk

In the GMF wiki - there is a search box at thee top of the wiki page if you cannot find it through the table of contents.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Promotion%2C-Status-or-Permissions-Change-to-Moderator-or-Owner

Be sure to read the caution in red.

Frances
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Nevermind. I did find the solution. Guilty of reading the forms too quickly.

Eric