Re: Export database with images
On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 10:38 AM, Charles Roberts wrote:
I need something for the casual user.
There have been some discussions over the last 3 years about having a Print button for databases on the beta group.? You could join one of those to add your support or additions.? A few that I found: (most recent) Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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An announcement from PG Offline - Y! group transfer extension!?
Hi, I just received this from PG Offline. Make of it what you will.
Hi All,
I have it on good authority that Verizon have extended the Yahoo Groups deadline to January 31st.
Wait for an official announcement from Yahoo before slacking off your downloading!
Also I hear that?PG Offline has been UN-blocked for all USA-based IP ranges.
Which is nice!
The PGO-2-GIO program is in development hell but I expect us to break through in the next couple of days.
Whither PGO when Verizon finally pulls the plug?
Plans are afoot to transition PGO to a new data source and a new revenue model.
PGO's Achilles heel has always been its perpetual licence.??
Perpetual licences are OK for Paint programs but not for an app that depends on a 3rd party data source that could change at any time.?
Therefore, moving forward, the new PGO will transition to multiple data sources starting with Groups.io and Facebook groups (maybe also Google groups & phpBB) and it will move to a subscription model.
I'm thinking.. $24.95 initial with $10 a year thereafter?? With no payment needed for anyone who registered within the last 12 months.
If you didn't register in the last 12 months but do have PGO then to move to the new PGO will be $10.?
You can stay with the old PGO.? It'll still read, sort & search your existing downloaded YG data.
And you can swap data with other PGO users using the Export & Import functions.
Moving to the new PGO is not mandatory.
Cheers,
Wilson.
Regards, Andy
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Re: Embedding the signup form in wordpress.com?
That HTML code in the promote tab does not work with wordpress.com. There is something in that code that wordpress.com does not allow, because when I paste it in their HTML editor and save, and go to the page, the form does not show up at all. anyone here, who codes, could we discuss about taking that code in the promote tab and making it wordpress.com friendly? I'm willing to pay for this job.
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Re: Manual transfers from Yahoo Groups
On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 02:38 AM, Cal wrote:
I thought you said there was an option to use Mark's YahooMessagesApplication in Chrome, yes?
To download messages from Yahoo, yes. But you already have a download. Recall that you asked me how Mark downloaded the messages from Yahoo group, if he wasn't using the Privacy Dashboard. I responded by telling you about that script. Bruce
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Re: Manual transfers from Yahoo Groups
I have the information about Lena's script.
I thought you said there was an option to use Mark's YahooMessagesApplication in Chrome, yes?
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On 12/10/19 2:28 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote: Cal -- Um, I think your expectations are more than a little unrealistic. But you can want what you want to want.
Here are your free options:
-- Upload the messages to your files area, converted to plain text or not, or...
-- Figure out how to use Lena's Perl script.
I already told you how to do these things in message #25789 </g/GroupManagersForum/message/25789>. Not going down that road again.
You can contact Mark at [email protected], <mailto:[email protected],>?but I can guarantee that he won't upload your mbox files for nothing. If he was to do that, he'd have to do it for everybody; and I'm sure he has other fish to fry.
Bruce
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Re: Manual transfers from Yahoo Groups
Cal -- Um, I think your expectations are more than a little unrealistic. But you can want what you want to want. Here are your free options: -- Upload the messages to your files area, converted to plain text or not, or... -- Figure out how to use Lena's Perl script. I already told you how to do these things in message #25789. Not going down that road again. You can contact Mark at [email protected],?but I can guarantee that he won't upload your mbox files for nothing. If he was to do that, he'd have to do it for everybody; and I'm sure he has other fish to fry. Bruce
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Re: Manual transfers from Yahoo Groups
(I'm responding to both Frances' and Bruce's replies herein.) I can't spend any money on this, unless Mark wants to do all the small groups for one price.? And I already spent hours getting this done in time for the Dec 5 deadline, so I don't have much more time, though I might have a couple of volunteers. These are about 8-10 small groups, most with only a handful of files (some with no files), most with a few hundred messages (or less). As I said - no Windows, please.? I'm looking for free solutions that don't involve anything related to Windows.? This is a one-shot deal and I'm going to learn how to use Windows, which does a number of fundamental things counter-intuitively to my 20 years of "muscle memory built on the Mac.? Sorry, just consider it a limitation of mine. Bruce, how would I contact Mark to see if he'd I might get him to upload the mbox files? On 12/9/19 4:57 PM, Frances wrote: On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 04:41 PM, Cal wrote:
I can't use any Windows solution - Mac only.
Will Mark's YahooMessagesApplication make the From field and the
message date work properly?
My programmer husband has used a Windows emulator on his Mac. But you have to get the emulator plus buy Windows.
He suggests you look at Wineskin - free open source.
or
Crossover - costs about $60 but it won't run all applications.
It is based on Wineskin but is easier to use.
He says that if you have more money than time, your best bet is the emulator.
On 12/9/19 5:11 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote: On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 04:41 PM, Cal wrote:
I can't use any Windows solution - Mac only.
If you don't want to run an emulator, then PG Offline is off the table.
Will Mark's YahooMessagesApplication make the From field and the
message date work properly?
Presumably. If you contact Mark and get him to upload your mbox files for you, please report back on how things went and what the price point is.
Bruce
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Re: Number of Groups.io Members
But for the foresight of Mark, millions of Yahoo group users would be stranded today. Big corporations have no interest other than making money. It is the great idea in the mind of a dedicated person that blossoms into something great which really helps everyone. Thanks Mark
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 2:26 PM Bill Burns < billb@...> wrote: On 12/9/2019 3:06 PM, Marv Waschke wrote:
> Hats off to Mark on his system architecture. Transferring all those Y!
> Groups is an accomplishment, but as a retired system architect, I am
> more impressed by the performance of in the face of a rapid
> increase in traffic. Scaling up may sometimes be easy in theory, but
> doing it in practice as well Mark has, is really incredible.
It's no coincidence that Mark was also the architect of ONElist in 1998.
This then became eGroups and was subsequently sold to Yahoo, where it
turned into Yahoo Groups.
Yahoo then kept making "improvements" until everything finally
collapsed.? And here we all are.
Mark tells the full story of how he founded Groups.io:
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Bill
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I have tried signing in with old address already. ?No luck. ?Says I am not verified yet so cannot get in. ?
And I know the address changed as I am in the group twice. ?Once as owner and one as a regular member (with different email addresses). ?That way I can see what regular members see (as it is different than what an owner sees). ?So I can see my owner address was changed and I could not have verified the change since I never could have received it.
I even tried contacting the owner but it must send to the improper address, so not coming to me.
Any way for Groups to change my address to be proper or make my secondary address an owner?
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On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 07:51 PM, D&J Edgar wrote:
If an email does not get confirmed will it automatically revert to before the change at some point?
It shouldn't have changed unless you clicked the link in the verification email.? As Bruce said, try signing in with your original account/email. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Re: Invalid request, no reverse DNS for.... Not just an Outlook problem
I contacted my server. They tested and tried it and their reverse DNS is indeed properly set up. See link below... And the original error message...
host lb02.groups.io[173.255.221.194] said: 500
Invalid request, no reverse DNS for 209.242.224.96 (in reply to RCPT TO
command)
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On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 07:51 PM, D&J Edgar wrote:
If an email does not get confirmed will it automatically revert to before the change at some point?
It shouldn't have changed unless you clicked the link in the verification email.? As Bruce said, try signing in with your original account/email. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 04:59 PM, Christopher W. wrote:
It looks like the Direct Add API </api#direct_add> may be
what you're looking for. It supports both the main group and sub groups.
It's not clear whether the Remove Member API
</api#remove-member> works on sub groups or just the main
group. That sounds like a good question for the Groups.io API group
<>. I haven't tried either one myself, though.
For creating a user, there's the Register User API
</api#user>, but it looks like you can only set the initial
password. Though, on another branch of this thread it looks like you're
actually looking for single-sign on, so this is probably not what you're
looking for in practice.
Thank you, Christopher. I'll look into this. - Gary
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On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 04:45 PM, Christopher W. wrote:
A feature of an Enterprise group is single-sign on using Auth0 with "others
by request". </static/pricing> You may want to contract
support to figure out if this plan is the right fit for you.
BTW, the Alpha API /login call is ugly in that it sends a user's password
across the Internet in cleartext--eek!
The API must be called over a HTTPS connection
</api#authentication>, so it's not sent in the clear. If
you can't trust HTTPS, then you lost a long time ago. :-)
Thanks again, Christopher. I'm realizing now that my goal of single-sign-in (Wordpress -> Groups.io) is a pipe dream. I can't modify/manage users' settings because the relationship of users to groups is many-to-many, and the users' universal credentials (of course) need to remain independent of any one group. Check. Then, since I don't want my users to have to sign up for Google or Facebook, those being the recognized validators of authority, I would likely be unable to self-generate a token that Groups.IO API would grant sufficient proof for a Groups.io login. Understood. We're a non-profit and can't afford Enterprise membership, but I sense that Auth0 or another method created "by request" would either be unfeasible or too expensive for us. I understand now why the security is the way it is, and it looks to have been designed well. And of course I trust HTTPS--it's just that I would never be able to obtain a user's password in the first place to make the call--unless, that is, they had already given it to me, which is a messy manual workflow on its own, and something I would never want to do. Thank you all again for your helpful replies. Thanks for helping me to realize both the beauty of the API / functionality, and that I can't get single-sign-on. Best, Gary
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Re: Home Page Does not Allow Text as shown
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 08:54 PM, David Peters wrote:
It was the formatting that I pulled in that was messing my page up.? Thank you for your patience and help.??
I was able to update the page to look like I wanted it to.
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Looks good. The links to bylaws, constitution are clickable. You might want to reconsider this and put them in Files in your group. A style thing - I would take the underlining off your club name. Underlining usually means clickable. And off Pride of Ownership.? With Advanced Toolbar, you can add formatting to these two, including colour! Frances ? -- FAQ on Moving from Yahoo GroupsGMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers
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Re: Home Page Does not Allow Text as shown
It was the formatting that I pulled in that was messing my page up.? Thank you for your patience and help.??
I was able to update the page to look like I wanted it to.
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On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 4:03 PM David Peters via Groups.Io <dtpeters63= [email protected]> wrote:
Thank you all for the?feedback.? I will try this at home later tonight.
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On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 03:44 PM, Frances wrote:
I looked at your Groups.io homepage and you seem to have pasted a section on top of the description box. Or something!
Francies -- I noticed that, too. There appears to be some position: absolute or other style directives messing things up, such that content is lying on top of each other.
David -- If you are cutting-and-pasting from a Word document or some other web site, don't. Clear everything out and edit your Description using the editor's own menu tools.
Bruce
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Not getting the confirmations since there is no such thing as the domain I put in error () so suspect it gets bounced. ?And because there is no such domain I cannot sign into it to get it.
If an email does not get confirmed will it automatically revert to before the change at some point? ?And at what point would that be? 30 days? ?I can deal with that I guess but if it does not revert back, have I lost the group? ?
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On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 08:03 PM, < djedgar1970@...> wrote:
As an owner I really, really messed up.? I changed my email address except I typed in the wrong ending.? I typed in when I should have been .? So the address gets changed and suddenly I am a NC owner member with the wrong address.? Never got the confirmation email, cannot get into my own group to fix either.?
That's peculiar. If you don't receive the confirmation email and click on the link therein, the address associated with your account should not have changed.? Have to tried logging in using the old email address? Bruce
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On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 08:03 PM, <djedgar1970@...> wrote:
As an owner I really, really messed up.? I changed my email address except I typed in the wrong ending.? I typed in gmail.net when I should have been gmail.com.? So the address gets changed and suddenly I am a NC owner member with the wrong address.? Never got the confirmation email, cannot get into my own group to fix either.?
That's peculiar. If you don't receive the confirmation email and click on the link therein, the address associated with your account should not have changed.? Have to tried logging in using the old email address? Bruce
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Re: Honey, I shrunk the photos
Duane,
Agree that the Groups.io settings reduce size, not quality.? My goal was/is the opposite, to keep the? size and to reduce quality.? Many? of the pictures in the albums I worked with were 100K? or less when downloaded, and looked fine for this? use.? The ones
I "degraded" still look quite? good, adequate for the purpose.? Just a different preference.?? The fact that groups.io puts the? attachments in? an album means that I can easily delete large ones if needed.
Dan
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Moving to Groups.io without Yahoo Easy Transfer
#howtoguide
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As an owner I really, really messed up.? I changed my email address except I typed in the wrong ending.? I typed in gmail.net when I should have been gmail.com.? So the address gets changed and suddenly I am a NC owner member with the wrong address.? Never got the confirmation email, cannot get into my own group to fix either.?
What can be done?
If i try to get in by using the wrong ending, I just get notified that I have not been approved yet.
Group in question is Groups.io/g/TCMG
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Duane
Andy Wedge
Bruce
Frances
David Peters