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On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 04:02 AM, Shal Farley wrote:

Quirks like this should be sent to [email protected] as bug reports.

?TY. Sending now.?
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Ahh, thank you, Frances. I hadn't seen that information.

Mybad regards the suggestion for an IP address from an applicant. I see now, from a membership request received, that indeed the applicant's IP is already provided.

Unless I'm missing something, the only thing I'd do differently to how things stand is to give a Group owner the ability to force an applicant to complete a "Why would you like to join this Group?" at point of application, which may then obviate the need for a Pending Subscription form.

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 11:03 AM, Michael L. Stokes wrote:

What are the things I need to look for here to fix this?

One of our Members had a P by her name and I have no idea how that happened because in our group setting the "Moderated" box is unchecked under Spam Control. Meaning all members can post unmoderated. So to me, the appearance of the P badge was confusing.?

I checked the?Posting Privileges box?of our other members and all of them had the "Use Group Moderation Setting" box checked.

So I?resolved the P badge display by going into her account and under the Posting Privileges box and changing her setting to?"Use Group Moderation Setting".?For some reason her setting was "Override: not moderated".

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 12:45 AM, droxine5 wrote:

After PG I'll look into free alternatives to Word. ? Not sure how I feel about using the online free version.? I really like to work offline when that's an option

Droxine, glad I was able to give you a useful steer. As an alternative to things like Google Docs, take a look at Libre Office (). Unless you're doing using highly MS specific features (rare) it'll do 100% what you need. And it's free - although of course I always make and recommend making a donation to open source projects when you find them genuinely useful.

Derek

Sandi,

Lesson learned. If something fails in Portrait mode, try doing it in
Landscape mode.

Quirks like this should be sent to [email protected] as bug reports. Together with a description of the devices involved and screen shots if you can. That way Mark will know there's an issue with the "responsive" code that perhaps can be fixed to give users a better experience on various devices.

Shal


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mac6036,

As I understand it, groups.io was supposed to send notifications to
the Yahoo membership list informing members that the group has been
transferred.

Correct.

Unless you unchecked the box for it when setting up your transfer Groups.io would have sent an "You have been added" notice to each copied address:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Added-Message-for-YG-transfer

There is only one post since December 3 in my very large group. ...

since my group has to do with time-sensitive matters, I was hoping to
avoid downtime. Any suggestions?

As Derek suggested, look in the Activity page for your group to see if people have made failed attempts to post to the group. Check also the Pending page to see if any need approval. And of course, check the Messages page to see if messages have posted but you've not received them by email.

Please reply back to us know if this has been resolved, or what you've learned.

Shal


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John,

But will it exprt more than the 1000 member limit imposed by Yahoo?

Yes, it will get them all.

As will the chrome app:


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Dennis,

So far no response to four emails over two days and no option to pay
on the spot.

Try emailing from a different email service.

A couple weeks ago someone else reported a similar difficulty and it turned out that Wilson had been trying to reply, but that person's email service was rejecting ("bouncing") Wilson's replies.

Shal


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Hi all,

This week's change log:


Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.

CHANGE: We are no longer accepting new Yahoo Group transfer requests.

I don't imagine there's anyone still involved in Yahoo Groups who's missed this one.

Meanwhile the deadline for requesting a download from Yahoo ticks nearer (2019-12-15 07:59 UTC). See this message if interested in more detail:


I'd appreciate it if further discussion of Yahoo, its legacy, and its functionality / prospects going forward be conducted in Y!GMF so that /this/ GMF can move on with the topic of managing our Groups.io groups.


However, discussion of uploading / importing content from Yahoo groups (however you obtained it) to your Groups.io groups is still on-topic here.


Comments about these others are also welcome:

SYSADMIN: Upgraded the outbound email machine.
API: Added reply, bcc_me and from_owner parameters to the /postdraft

endpoint.

API: Added /authenticateloginlink endpoint.

Please call out any you find significant.

Shal
GMF Founder
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Dan,

I have a user complaint about not getting messages, this is a
screenshot of the record. Any advice on what this means, and how to
troubleshoot?

What Duane said.

Basically this is a problem which the member's email service. Have the member send your screenshot to tech support at his/her service. The user can also locate the same information on his/her Subscription page or via his/her Account, Recent Bounces page; if the member has any other group subscriptions bounces from all of them would be listed there.

Until and unless he/she can convince his/her email service to whitelist Groups.io, or at least ignore this particular Real Time Blacklist service, the member is likely to have ongoing problems with missing messages.

My impertinent advice: choose a better email service.

The wiki page about "removed for spam" is tangentially related, but this particular member's problem isn't that group messages went to spam, it is that they were rejected outright by his/her email service.

If the group's messages /had/ gone to spam that would have been better: at least the member could find them and mark them as "not spam".

Shal


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Beck,

This is the first non-member responding to the group since we converted, so I am at a loss of how to accept them the correct way.

What Michael said: you approve a pending member on the Pending Approval view of your group's members page:

You may also be able to approve the member by simply replying to the Pending Subscription notice.

As to the person's reply to your Pending Subscription Notice, his/her reply would have been directed to your group's +owner address. There is no direct way to direct his/her reply to the group in general, you'd have to forward it from your email.

Shal


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You have understood my objective correctly Bruce. It would be better to have no ownership showing rather than the wrong one for files and put the correct ownership in the file description; that is what I have been doing. I was rather hoping that when the dummy account was deleted it would leave a place holder for the name to be selected.

Thanks for your time.

Mike

Droxine,

It's just hard for me to believe that 10% of messages were deleted
(purposefully, not by yahoo glitch or something). I was sole owner
and mod, and think I'd remember.

What Dano said: it is possible that some of the members deleted some or all of their own messages.

You might be able to see if this was the case by opening the Activity Log in your Yahoo Group, select the Web tab, and select Conversations in the Search drop box. Then click the Search button. This should produce a list of actions (including deletions) taken by members or mods.

Note that Y!Groups activity logs are not 100% reliable: in some of my groups some of the tabs stopped updating months or years ago, so you may not get a complete list of deleted messages, particularly if the deletion was recent.

What Dano said about an earlier owner deleting "unnecessary" messages may not apply in your case, but it is true that when I first started using Yahoo Groups (in 2003) that groups had limited storage for messages, so there was a motive for deleting older or less useful messages.

Shal


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On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 04:45 PM, droxine5 wrote:

Do you remember having to delete a ton of spam or mistakes or were you as surprised as I was?

No, I don't recall anything of the kind. Although I was not always a moderator for our forum, the person who was would surely have reported such issues. Of course, there were some deliberate deletions over the years, but those couldn't have added up to more than a couple of dozen messages at most -- definitely not several hundred. So yes: the discrepancy was a big surprise.

Dear Lena,

thank you so much for the great work you have done. Now it works
perfekctly with the date!

Many greetings
Andrea

It exists. Someone else just asked about this earlier!

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Screening-New-Members-Using-the-Pending-Subscription-Notice

and
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Member-Notices

Lots more in the GMF wiki for owners and moderators as well as info for members about logging in, etc.?

See link below.?

Frances


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GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers

Something Yahoo! Groups did was require a request for membership to a Group to be accompanied with a reason.

It seems that Groups.io doesn't provide for or require a new applicant to provide a reason for the application. This necessitates questions being asked of the applicant prior to approving membership.

It would also be helpful if the applicant's IP address was captured at the time of application, in order to help a Group Owner or Moderator assess the likelihood of an authentic application.?

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 08:59 PM, Stuart McCarthy wrote:

I'm the Moderator of our Group, but the Owner has not been heard of since his last post earlier this year.

I have sent him numerous emails to his private email address and to the Owners email address via Groups.IO, but no response. I also sent an email to Groups.IO some weeks back but have not heard back.

What can I do, we have a few issues that need addressing, one needs a member being moderated, I tried but it did not work.

Stuart -- If support is refusing to help you...and there are very good reasons why Mark might choose not to...there's not much you can do.

This is why every group should have at least two Owners.

Bruce

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 11:01 PM, Janie wrote:

When our group used to be on Yahoo, we had a setting to stop posts for two days for a break. How is that done in an IO group??

Janie -- Go to Admin>Settings>Spam Control and tick the "Announcement Group" checkbox. This will bounce any incoming messages from regular Subscribers until such time that you decide to allow posting to resume.?If you don't want to actually bounce messages but instead just delay their delivery, tick "Moderated" instead.

Bruce