On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 08:05 AM, Beth Weld wrote:

Duane, if you have subgroups and need to know usage, you can’t get it from the Admin/Billing info in the main group. I had to go to each of the subgroups and manually calculate usage. If there is a better way to do it I would love to know.

In subgroups, you'll find it in Admin>Usage. There is no Billing or Upgrade tab for subgroups.

Bruce

A weakness of hashtags in this application is that you cannot tag a single message. Hashtags are associated with topics, not messages...so if you want to single out one message within a thread, that won't work.

It may be burdensome, but I really believe the wiki is the best way. As Duane suggested, you don't have to copy the entire message to the wiki, just create a list of topics and hyperlink them back to the original message and/or thread. You can even make this wiki page "sticky" if you want.

Bruce

Hello,

I'm doing the first of about 5 or 6 Yahoo group transfers.? I followed the process painstakingly.? Sent the invite, once transfer joined, I made it a moderator and updated the transfer job.? All good.? But the status at the top has never changed from "We have received your invite...".? Even after I made it a moderator and after I updated the transfer job.? So, I have no feedback on if we're moving forward or not.?? This is my first of a few of these, and my largest.? Just wondering if I'm being impatient.? The status at the top was pretty good in the initial phases, but I'm not getting anything at the moment.? I haven't seen a button to start the transfer, don't know if there will be one but from the steps, it should just start, as far as I can see.?

Anyone have any suggestions??? Should I just be a bit more patient??

It's the Yahoo membership that has us stymied. An invite hasn't been possible since Yahoo insists that I am already a member. But when I try to do anything I am told I am not authorized . . . the stock answer to "You aren't a member."
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On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 08:05 AM, Steven Knowles wrote:

In case this enhancement suggestion hasn't already been made, it'd be nice if the Sent Invitations list could be searched for character strings.

Unless I'm missing something, right now I have to navigate page by page, or take a guess on what page a particular entry might be, in order to find something such as the status of a particular invitation.

You can sort the invites by clicking on the blue header Status.
You can also tidy up the Sent Invitations by deleting accepted invites. Select the checkbox for those accepted and click on Actions, Cancel/Remove Invite.?
This may be a little misleading but it simply takes the invitation out of this display. It does NOT remove them as a member.

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Duane, if you have subgroups and need to know usage, you can’t get it from the Admin/Billing info in the main group. I had to go to each of the subgroups and manually calculate usage. If there is a better way to do it I would love to know.
?Thanks?
Beth?

In case this enhancement suggestion hasn't already been made, it'd be nice if the Sent Invitations list could be searched for character strings.

Unless I'm missing something, right now I have to navigate page by page, or take a guess on what page a particular entry might be, in order to find something such as the status of a particular invitation.

Richard,

In Apple Mail, for example, if the Sent version of a message you
posted ends up in the same folder with the distributed version of that
posting, then Mail will sometimes only display one of them.

Interesting.

Gmail has a similar but more annoying "feature". It will hide the distributed version from your Inbox even if the sent version is in your account's Sent folder (or, I suspect, anywhere).

Gmail's "feature" is based on matching the Message-ID field in the message header. Groups.io has a compensating feature to correct for this behavior: when a message you posted from Gmail is sent back to your Gmail address, Groups.io replaces the Message-ID field in the copy distributed to you (but not anyone else).

If you are a Gmail user and don't like seeing your distributed copy back in your Inbox you can turn the feature off by unchecking the (misleadingly named) "I always want copies of my own emails" box at the bottom of your Account Preferences page.

I mention all of this because perhaps Apple Mail uses the same technique (matching Message-Id) to detect when the Sent version is in the same folder as the Distributed version. If so, and you'd like to work around that Apple Mail feature, you could suggest that the Groups.io feature be extended to Apple Mail.

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Maria,

I have a premium account in Groups.io

Premium Yearly is required for a transfer, not just monthly. In case you didn't already know that.

I want to transfer 4 yahoo groups as sub groups in my main group BUT I
only want to transfer the messages and files sections.

Have a look at the screen shot for Step 2 here:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

The checkboxes let you choose what to copy from the Yahoo Group.

We want to start fresh groups BUT need to keep the history separate.

I'm not sure what you mean by this, but I generally recommend copying the Members as well. If you did include the Members in those transfers, the members copied to a subgroup would automatically be added to the primary group as well (if their address was not already in the primary group).

Having the members' email addresses in place in the (sub)group at or before the time of copying content is the only way to ensure that the content (other than messages) has its ownership attributed to the member who owned it in the Yahoo Group.

Shal


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Jon,

I checked all that, and everywhere, and it appears the content in
question is beyond my control (part of groups.io)?

On the group's Settings page, in the Member Notices tab, you should find at least one notice of type Welcome. The one(s) marked Active are sent. The entire body of a Welcome notice is yours to edit, just like a message post. Don't forget to update the Subject text too - it usually has the group posting address in it.

Note that each subgroup has its own Settings page, with its own collection of Member Notices.

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I have a premium account in Groups.io
I want to transfer 4 yahoo groups as sub groups in my main group BUT I only want to transfer the messages and files sections.??
Can I transfer al the archive but not the members list / email addresses and how do i do that?

We want to start fresh groups BUT need to keep the history separate.

Thanks in advance

Chris,

Our group would like a way to collect postings and threads that would
be particularly valuable to have available for easy reference at any
point in time.

Sounds like the intended purpose of hashtags.

You may have hundreds of useful posts, but how many different subject matters? If you can come up with a smaller number of categories you can make a hashtag for each category, and then the Hashtags page can be used to find all the topics in any category.

The weakness of hashtags is that they are presented on the Hashtags page in alphabetical order - there's no other way to organize them. But you can color-code them and you can give them succinct descriptions.

Would messages have to be manually copied/pasted into a wiki entry?
That would would be very tedious.

Yup.

On the other hand, the Wiki has its own advantages, especially when you want to take the information out of the "in the moment" context typical of messages and re-author it as a reference work.

A short description and link would work.

That's another advantage of a wiki: you can mix those two methods (purpose-written articles and message citations) on an as-needed, or as convenient, basis. GMF's wiki has many examples of this both on its home page and in the content of other pages.

But I think it is unquestionable that a wiki will take more effort to set up and maintain than a curated collection of hashtags, possibly /much/ more effort.

Shal


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Dennis,

For one brief moment this morning, my yahoo group gave me permission
to "invite members." Alas, the moment ended before the invite went
through.

If you are getting the "an error occurred while loading the content" message, try the Browser ritual:
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19411

If you are actually a member, or moderator without the needed privileges, then the ritual may not help.

Worse, you face another hurdle: promoting the transfer address to moderator.

As a Y!Group moderator you need both of these two Privileges in order to complete Steps 3 and 4 of the transfer instructions:

|_| Invite and add members
|_| Add, remove, and change moderator privileges

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A short description and link would work.? Would love it if that was as easy to specify / create as it is to do a sticky.

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 12:09 AM, Chris Hart, MyMacTech wrote:

I thought maybe the WIKI would be a good way to do this.? But I don't see any kind of automatic connection between postings and wiki pages.

Would messages have to be manually copied/pasted into a wiki entry?

Do you need the entire text of the message?? Would a short description and a link work?

My first thought is to use descriptive hashtags, but it might be difficult to sort that many.? Another thought is to use the wiki with sections for various types of information, then have links to the actual message within that section with a description of what it's about.? (Each message has a permalink at the upper right that you could copy and paste.)? Even a database could be used, but it would need to be one row per item.

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This week's change log:


Feel free to reply to this topic if you'd like to comment on the
changes. Or better yet, if you expect a lot of discussion start a new
topic (or rejoin an existing one) about a specific change.

Changes to the site this week:

??? API: Added /sendloginlink, /resendconfirmationemail and /unbounceuser endpoints.
??? API: Added /getsubgroupsbycategory endpoint.
??? NEW: When changing your email address, we now send a notification email to your old email address.
??? API: Added /getsubgroupcategories endpoint.

Because of the holiday, the next #changelog will be on Friday, December 6th.

Please call out any you find significant.

Duane

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Hi

Our group would like a way to collect postings and threads that would be particularly valuable to have available for easy reference at any point in time.

I know you can make posts sticky, but after a few years I foresee us having hundreds of these posts, and I think that's an excessive number of stickies.

I thought maybe the WIKI would be a good way to do this.? But I don't see any kind of automatic connection between postings and wiki pages.

Would messages have to be manually copied/pasted into a wiki entry?? That would would be very tedious.

Is there another way to best accomplish my goal?

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 10:27 PM, Eric Johnson wrote:

However, the owner is unable to get me registered as a member of the group let alone be appointed as an owner.

But you haven't said if it's on YG or GIO that you're having a problem.

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