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So, just to be sure, the OP's problem, to not be able to invite [email protected] was a brower issue on a Mac, and was solved on a PC.

Just checking since I can still exercise the "invite" option on my old Yahoo groups.

Greg

On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 04:31 PM, Frances wrote:

Suggestions, please!

I had this problem when trying to set up a wiki page and I found myself going round and round in circles becoming more and more frustrated; I was getting the same results as you have.?

Eventually I decided / realised that content was of greater importance than appearance so I gave up. :)

Chris

I am trying to create a table of contents. Seems easy enough as long as you use the formatting tool and choose from the headers.

But I can't figure out how to get rid of the numbering. Here's what my attempt looks like:
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Actually, Chris did!

Edit and Save any setting that is "wrong".?

Yes, this is vital when you make changes. And sometimes it can be quite a long way down the page. I will put that more prominently in the Quick Start for Group Formation wiki page.

Frances
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I don’t see that anyone has mentioned that, after checking/rechecking all settings that you need to scroll to the very bottom and click on the all important SAVE.

Patti

?Duane wrote:

There is no insert photo button, but you can insert one manually.? You need a raw image file if you want it stored in the message.? Copy/paste it into the message. <<<

Be cautious that if you insert, it’s highly likely that (if you choose to resend to members) the paste will end up as a broken image (blank square) icon) in the email. ?So if I paste I typically upload the image to somewhere (gio?) and paste the link along with the pic.?

I haven’t noticed a rhyme nor reason when pasting works or doesn’t. ***

If you’re going to resend the edited message it might be just as well to instead repost a corrected copy.?

*** I have also (noticed months afterward) that images have disappeared when I pasted them onto a wiki page.?

it seems a shame that we can insert only a local image and not insert a remove image via the image url as the SimpleForums platform allows. Naturally there’s pros and cons to remote images.?

Is it feasible to consider renaming both groups and their respective descriptions?
Given the content and members have been successfully transferred intactly that would seem to be one viable solution to consider.?

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Same here.

In one group that I created last year, I have a mod that I trust to self change her status to owner should I suddenly be unable make administrative decisions.

In another group I am a trusted mod who has the ability to become owner should the current owner be unable to continue. I am currently empowered to all administrative changes and I notify her as a courtesy. I have no intention of elevating my status to owner unless she steps down. We had the same arrangement on YG for 7 years but without the peace of mind that we have now. If she would have become incompacitated, there would have been no YG owner. With GIO, I can assume that role if needed.?

In a third group, I elected to make a new member of my group a "co-owner" based on email exchanges over the course of only 2 days that led to a mutual trust.?We had similiar backgrounds, interests and desires to bring like minded hobbyists together. She invited all her YG members into the IO group I had created. It's a relief to us both. Her YG members have a new home and I don't need to worry about what will happen to my group should I be unable to act as owner. Of note, I would not be hurt or angry if I were "kicked out" of that group accidently or intentionally. It's still young (5 months) plus I know I can create another group at any time if we discover some irreconcilable?differences between us. We are now in our second month of co-ownership and no problems have surfaced.?

It's no big deal at this point in my life (retired) to lose control over "my" groups. The whole point of my groups is to allow the members to steer the group's direction and to promote a space for courtesy exchange of information.?

There are groups that exist for entirely different reasons like announcements only or handing down directives or disseminating policy changes. Those group owners may decide its better for their group to dissolve or to re-form under new ownership.?

To my way of thinking each group is in some ways like a business. Some business are run by trusted partnerships while others have a single owner. If the owner is permanently incompacitated, the business might be inherited, merge, dissolved, etc. The transition will normally be smoother if a plan is in place and those involved in the business side of things know how to implement the plan.

In that respect, It behooves a group owner to at least consider a plan for his or her group so their intentions have a fair chance of being implemented. Especially when a group owner would like their group to continue should he or she become incompacitated.?
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On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 12:17 AM, Gesine wrote:

And one thing that frequently happens, when someone is doing a significant service, and working really hard, and is addressing/helping some messy problem -- one thing that frequently happens is that people yell at THEM, rather than yelling at the cause of the messy problem.

And that is really really discouraging, to the people working really hard, the people who developed new things.

Gesine -- Thanks for your kind words of support.

Folks can't yell at Yahoo, because there's no one on the other end....so you end up unloading on anyone who will listen, which is frequently right here in GMF. It's all unfortunate, and unfair, but it is human nature. I for one am growing accustomed to it, and it's nice to know it will all be over in a couple months.

Meanwhile, here's a reminder that we do still have the IHateYahooGroups group where people having problems along these lines can go and vent their spleen.

Regards,
Bruce

Food for thought- consider the purpose of the links, their relationship and the ease of updating, adding and deleting them over the course of time.?

I recently read a GMF post about how to enter links into a database. The process seems to require a very specific series of events. I don't know how easy it would to be to manage arrangement, changes and additions to links in a GIO database but from what I have gathered in reading posts, many seem to be using the database for their links.

In my group, I opted to group our links into Wiki pages. I feel they are more organized, easier to find by members searching for a specific topic or "how to" and easily edited/managed by members so that they remain current. I made a TOC so the relavent wiki page of links can be readily found.

I am considering a third way of presenting links using our files. I haven't yet done so but I know that PDFs can be hosted under files and opened directly in a browser.
What I have in mind is to build PDFs containing resource links helpful to each volunteer's job description so that an individual member can opt to download it from our files area and tailor the page for local distribution to their committee members in their respective chapters. (Our GIO group members represent non profit chapters across the US.)

I currently have in place a formatted Google drive spreadsheet with an extensive number of links. It was created 5 years ago and is updated annually by each chapter's web manager or president. It contains the URLs of our 150+ chapters who have an online presence (websites, social media, forums and groups) along with contact information for the person who is responsible for maintaining their online presence.

Given that it is quite already in place and understood by our members I see no reason to bring it into a GIO database. Instead, the spreadsheet link is in the appropriate Wiki page and also sent annually in a post as a reminder for our members to update their chapter information.?

In summary, this may be a good time to evaluate the purpose of your aquired links and think about the best way to present them to your group members with minimal ongoing management effort.?

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Thank you for the update. I believe I am caught in the middle of this. I was wondering what was going on. I was getting no response on my request to add them as a member to our group.I just sat down this morning tand saw the message about transferring being halted.
Paul

On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 05:23 AM, rogercolwell wrote:

Is there a fix for this I can implement, or is this a matter for Support, please?

This seems to happen now and then at irregular intervals.? It seems to fix itself eventually, so I don't think anyone is quite sure where the discrepency comes from.? You can report it, and any other details that you're aware of, to support.? If you get a definitive answer, please let us know what it is.

Duane
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In one of my three groups, when I have no Pending Approvals I have a number marker value of -1; if there is a list of 4 Pending Approvals, for example, my number marker value is 3. If it matters, this is in the Main Group whereas its Subgroup displays the correct value, I think.

Is there a fix for this I can implement, or is this a matter for Support, please?

TIA, Roger

My group has three co-owners . .? There is still a little trust around ;-)

Update, figured out a couple more, only one left!

I also created a wiki and linked it to the main page.

/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/URL-query-parameters-usage

Cheers,
Christos

Hi all,

I'm not one of the folks here who are extremely familiar with the mechanics of groups.io --

but last year when we were having groups.io transfer several large groups, I remember having to make repeated attempts to have YAHOO do stuff -- and this is NOT a problem on the groups.io side, this is Yahoo being messed up. It took me, as group owner and group moderator, multiple attempts to successfully invite groups.io as a member, because yahoo groups was just being funky.? I got the purple message a number of times, and other times it just didn't work.? And then one day, the nth time, I was able to invite them successfully. ? And of course now, yahoo is getting more and more messed up.?

So please don't leap to the conclusion that groups.io is evil or conning us or whatever --? I think Mark and all are doing a huge amount of work, and they're trying hard to complete transfers IN SPITE OF how yahoo groups is falling apart.

So, one could say "shame on yahoo groups", but there is **zero** reason to say "shame on groups.io".

And the meta:
And one thing that frequently happens, when someone is doing a significant service, and working really hard, and is addressing/helping some messy problem -- one thing that frequently happens is that people yell at THEM, rather than yelling at the cause of the messy problem.

And that is really really discouraging, to the people working really hard, the people who developed new things.? Gesine?

Stan,

But after I turned off the No Email option, shouldn't they
have all received the most recent special notice?

Yes, they should have.

Could you contact one of those people to find out if they in fact received the Special Notice or not? I guess I'm poking at whether it is the send that maybe has a flaw, or the reporting.

In either case, this is sounding more and more like something where the evidence should be reported to support.

Shal


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Oops, sorry, it's AOL synced on my iPad, not through a browser. ?Just a router.

Tina,

I just sent another test message from my ‘member’ account, but...
Sadly, I still cannot delete. Very odd.

If you have more than one subscription (email address) in the group's Members list, both being members (not mods/owners) then one cannot delete the content posted by the other.

As far as Groups.io those two addresses represent different people.

So, is there any change the test message you sent from your "member" account, was actually posted from a different email address than the address you used to log in?

Shal


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Ann,

I am new at this and couldn’t figure out how to add a response to the
people who responded to my inquiry.

The Reply function in your email interface should do the trick. As should the Reply link in the bar under each message when viewed within GMF's Messages section.

That wouldn't (easily) gather them for you, as you've done here though.

No, I didn’t check that, but I know my own email address is registered
with Groups.io,

Registered with Groups.io is different from being in the Members list of your group. An account isn't required to post messages by email, but being in your group's Members list is required.

/Allow Non Subscribers to Post/ has been checked,”

*Answer:* Good point. But I definitely did not check that option.

Unless you had checked that box. But we can disregard that now that we know it isn't checked.

*Answer:* I will double-check this, but I certainly did not
intentionally give any members posting privileges that override the
group setting.

It is probably worth checking your own Posting Privileges.

When you create a group the default Spam Control setting is "New Users Moderated". So from that time until you unchecked that box any member that joins would have that Override set in their posting privileges. I think this would include you.

On the other hand, the default "Unmoderate After" is one. So after the first time you approved your own message, or the message of any other such member, that person's messages would no longer require moderation (at least, not for that reason).

Another place to check is within the Members list itself. Look for posting-related badges (P, M, NuM, or NP) next to their email addresses.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Status-Badges-in-the-Members-List
Either M or NuM would cause that member's messages to require moderation.

I suspect I will have my own light bulb moment one of these days.

I hope you let us know what you found when that happens.

I clearly have more to write in my wiki page on message moderation, but I hope to ensure that it would have answered your question, had I written it in time. So knowing what tripped you up will help me be sure that case is covered.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Message-Moderation

Shal


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