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> Dano wrote:>>I can see muting the previous versions of a post

>?in the archives as long as the final revision stays in the same

>?place in a thread.<<

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> By muting in the archives, do you mean not enabling the person

>?viewing via web to see the previous versions? I wouldn't want that.

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> Brenda

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The post in question would just be noted as edited. A user could dig back if they wanted, but a typical person reading the thread wouldn't be bothered by all the earlier duplicate posts with errors or misstatements. The final post shown would give the intended message.

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Then again, why would it matter in most cases? Just because someone missed an error in a message, why would someone else care what was initially written? That information would be wrong according to the sender anyway, which is why they'd correct it.

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Dano

Shal,

When I posted in here, both times it took me to the page that said Thank you, your post will be available when approved by the moderators, (or similar wording,), but then instead of taking me back to the message list (last message), it left me with another blank posting box.

I thought Mark fixed this?

Brenda

Per Duane's & Vickie's posts in Beta:

For info on this topic, see post #s #5878 (near the bottom), #5886, #5890,

and #5891 &#5892 which is bringing the topic to over here in GMFio.

In here, the topic was discussed in post #'s #209, #254 (I found my missing post) & #255.

Maybe those could be merged into this thread, or if not, maybe the thread could be hashtagged to match the one I made here.

Anyway, let's use this thread for discussing creating the #HowToGuide, if everyone's okay with that. :)

Brenda

Vickie wrote:>>Brenda, I have not received any email on the exact topics for a how to guide... and I am in gmf.. redirect, reply to this topic there ok..<<

Done.

I've started the topic here and maybe the others previously posted in here can be joined to this thread by hashtag? Shal, is that possible?

Or could the whole thread be merged under my new subject heading?

I'll track down the other post #'s for you in a little while, in case it can't be merged or connected.

Brenda

D R Stinson wrote:>>I can see muting the previous versions of a post in the archives as long as the final revision stays in the same place in a thread.<<

By muting in the archives, do you mean not enabling the person viewing via web to see the previous versions? I wouldn't want that.

Brenda

Okay. I'm trying to reply to this again...Not sure where the first one went. Duane, did I somehow accidentally send it to you?

Duane wrote:>>I just added a page to the Wiki for "Setting up a Database". I think I covered most of it, but please make changes if appropriate.<<

Great, now can that be copied into a Word file?

Duane wrote:>> I'm thinking that we could do a lot of the documentation for Mark on how
things work.<<

I agree. I was thinking of asking you to help, because I can write some of the simpler stuff, but when it comes to using e-mail methods, or things like integrations, I have no clue. My main concern is that it has to somehow be transferrable to a Word document, so that I can have a mailable document to send people.

Duane wrote:>>I know that things are changing, some quite often, and that can make it difficult for less computer comfortable folks to keep up.<<

Especially if you're trying to follow it in Beta. I get so confused about what is currently implemented and working, and what has been changed or isn't.

I can't work on the Wiki, but I can write things that you can paste into the Wiki, if that's doable. I know next to nothing about the Wiki, and don't have time to learn a new process right now. I still don't even know how to do Wordpress on my own. But a Word document, that I can send people as well as store in my files section, and people can download it and read it.

Brenda

Duane wrote:>>I just added a page to the Wiki for "Setting up a Database". I think I covered most of it, but please make changes if appropriate.<<

Great! Can that be pasted into a Word document, or is that not doable?

Duane wrote:>> I'm thinking that we could do a lot of the documentation for Mark on how things work.<<

I agree. I could write some of it, but things like how to do from e-mail, or the more complex things, I have no clue. Maybe we could create it together, but I would need one in Word that I can send people.

See my post in Beta: /g/beta/message/5878

I know that things are changing, some quite often, and that can make it difficult for less computer comfortable folks to keep up.


As far as

Did Mark ever absolutely clearly define the how to set a password or join a group process?

I'm still waiting to invite people until it's able to be explained step by step.

Thanks,

Brenda

Could GMF's wiki be copied into Word documents and used as a separate mailable document?

That's what I'm looking for, something we could send people.

Brenda

Daddy Dean wrote:>>Even those who have had computers but only use to Yahoo are are at lost as to how to do some simple things.<<

Exactly, so we would need a guide for the following:

How to use groups.io via website
How to use groups.io via e-mail
How to create groups and moderate in groups.io
And probably the simple commands vs the complex ones in each.

Brenda

I just made a suggestion in Beta for a simple sort of manual for more challenged users, and also a manual for more complex things.

I would write it myself, except I don't know enough about it to do that. But I'm willing to try, if I can get some help with the things I don't understand.

Brenda

Ro,

You are missing the whole point, of not wanting to deal with multiple
edited emails. Most edits are not done for erroneous info, but for
spelling error or to add new info.

Playing devil's advocate for a bit longer, why not put those members on individual moderation. Then you can reject their edits and tell them why. If they clean up their act you can take them back off moderation.

That resolves the flood-of-trivial-edits problem, at least outside of the moderator pool, without removing the functionality for cases when it makes sense.

(Yeah, I know, there I go again presuming that members of other people's groups can be trained.)

so there is no reason not to do a new post in the same thread if its
important, and if its not, then it will be let go, which is what we
want.

Well, there is, as Dano pointed out: even if posted in the same thread the correcting message doesn't hide the erroneous information. Someone finding the original post wouldn't necessarily know that they should read down the thread to see if there is a correction later. But that has a much lower importance in a group which is primarily read by email, and the archive is not treated as a repository of knowledge.

This points to my "One size does not fit all" mantra.

I haven't experienced a group where most edits are trivial, but within such a group, I imagine the people doing the trivial edits are primarily reading by web, without an appreciation for how their edits impact the members that read via email.

In its way this is comparable to the post-trimming conflict that crops up in some Y!Groups: members who read individual messages often don't appreciate the impact long trails of bottom quotes have on people trying to read by digest. The founder of Y!GMF, for example, wanted to solve that problem (and a host of others) by having a control which would allow him to disable posting by email in his groups. I, being primarily email oriented, have always been glad that Yahoo never saw fit to give him that option.

-- Shal

Vickie,

I don't see a like option for any of your messages. Not even in the
group Beta page
so I am adding it here..

Just Ro's messages? or anyones?

I'm seeing the Like link at the bottom of Ro's posts, just to the left of the Reply link, same as anyone else's, on both GMF@ and beta@. I don't know of any way that feature can be turned off, and especially not for a specific poster.

Or am I misunderstanding you?

-- Shal