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Shal, thank you.
Should I send your suggestions to the Beta group as a wish list? Or will you?
Or any other comments, folks?

Frances

How's Life?

? I request an RSVP for a group meeting, am I missing something that sends an email to the admins when someone RSVP's and/or changes their RSVP?

Have a great day!
Richard

Frances,

The emailed special notice doesn't show that it is special notice.
That would be a good thing so that group members aren't asking why
they are getting email from the group.

There's the difficulty of choosing a marking that is acceptable and intuitive for all groups. Perhaps a second subject tag could be added, e.g. "[GMF][Special]".

Absent that it is pretty much up to the group admins to establish and follow a convention for their group. I've often seen ADMIN: used as a subject line prefix for special notices.

Are Special Notices held for later delivery like the digest?

Not supposed to be, it should go immediately as ordinary postings do.

And speaking of Digests - members set to digest receive the Special Notice immediately also, as a separate email (possibly also included in the Digest, I'll find out later).

can you click in the email footer to follow a thread that is sent as
special notice if you are set to Special Notice only?

Interesting question. The message has the standard footer - with the default subscription settings that means it has a link to mute the topic, but not one to follow it.

However if in your Subscription, under Advanced Preferences, you've chosen Following Only then the footer has a link to follow the topic (instead of mute it). But it isn't effective because the replies are not themselves special notices - apparently the Special Notices requirement supersedes the Follow.

Until or unless the feature, recently discussed in beta@, to make Special Notice replies also Special Notices is implemented.

So, maybe we should suggest:

1) That following a special notice topic should supersede the requirement that the replies also be Special Notice.

2) That subscribers set to Special Notice default to Following Only behavior rather than All Messages (since they clearly do not get All Messages).

Shal

On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 09:43 am, Chuck Kraly K0XM wrote:

We have a facebook group for our club. I would like to integrate it to the forum. I have tried every which way, to no joy.

Log OUT of Facebook.? Try to reach your page.? It needs to be publicly available.? If you have to log in to see it, g.io integration won't work.

-- Jim

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 07:13 pm, J_Catlady wrote:

If the addition of a hashtag is not treated as a subject change, the locking may work even after its addition, since it's the subject change that subverts the locking. I will let you know.

It seems that you CAN add a hashtag without subverting the locking (or moderation) of a thread, since the tag is not treated as part of the subject line.

Still, you won't ever be able to lock threads via email, since you can't add tags via email even if there WERE a hashtag feature that locks threads.?
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J

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 06:41 pm, J_Catlady wrote:

adding such a hashtag to an existing topic via the web will not successfully lock it, since replies via email to the originally-named-topic email will still get through

Actually I'm in the process of testing this. If the addition of a hashtag is not treated as a subject change, the locking may work even after its addition, since it's the subject change that subverts the locking. I will let you know.
But either way, you still have the other two problems: no such hashtag feature (yet), and inability to add hashtags via email).?
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J

On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 06:11 pm, Shal Farley wrote:

I don't think you can do add a hashtag to an existing topic, except through the web site (Edit Topic). So the example of closing a topic by email wouldn't work.

Shal,

It's true that you can't (successfully) add a hashtag via email. But you can't lock a topic using a hashtag anyway, even if you add it via the web.

First, there's no such hashtag feature yet. It was one of my requests/suggestions on beta yesterday. You can set a hashtag duration, and set it to lock after that duration, but the minimum duration is one hour. There's no hashtag setting that will lock a topic.

Second, even if there were such a hashtag - one that locks a topic immediately (which there isn't) - adding such a hashtag to an existing topic via the web will not successfully lock it, since replies via email to the originally-named-topic email will still get through.

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J

Sarah,

Anyway is there a list of hash tags for list management that only
admins can apply to threads etc?

No. You create the hashtags at need.

Click on Hashtags in the left column of your group, then on the "Create Hashtag" button at the bottom of the hashtag list.

At the bottom is a list of checkboxes that you can use to give each hashtag the management functions you wish. The help page gives you a little more information about these functions:
/static/help#hashtags

I want to know in case I have to manage from the road and cannot
visit the site on my phone etc. an example might be if I want to
close a topic etc.

I don't think you can do add a hashtag to an existing topic, except through the web site (Edit Topic). So the example of closing a topic by email wouldn't work.

Shal

Aleksandar,

I tested in your group and you can see.

I do indeed.

And I'm more convinced, looking at the source, that it came from your email interface. The boundary marker that separates it from the message bodies:

Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary="_B716E74D-7A6D-4E1A-A7AE-430B2B75007D_"

is of the same format as the marker that separates the message bodies (plain and HTML) from each other:

Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="_945C41F1-806F-41E8-BE8B-D84011A2A67E_"

That seems an unlikely coincidence for two separate origins.

I was wrong about the color. it isn't white or transparent, it is a pale steel blue.

To really nail this, send another reply to the test group but this time cc me directly. Then I'll be able to compare the via-group copy with one untouched by Groups.io. If you'd like to see also CC yourself at another address (NOT the same gmail address as you're sending from).

Shal

Hello, I have not read the KB yet, I'm at work, but when I get off I'll look for the answer unless someone beats me to it.

Anyway is there a list of hash tags for list management that only admins can apply to threads etc? I want to know in case I have to manage from the road and cannot visit the site on my phone etc. an example might be if I want to close a topic etc.

Take care and have a happy wednesday. It's off to work I go.

I tested in your group and you can see.

2017-10-18 23:27 GMT+02:00, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...>:

Aleksandar,

No, I just mean that nobody attached this PNG, and I called it false
positive.

It could also be attached by the sender's security scanner or other software that mediates his/her email traffic.

Its irritating that we cannot do anything to prevent this PNG, but
Windows 10 mail app is widely used in our community.

I haven't seen it before, but I don't know if anyone here or in my other groups is using the native Win10 mail app. I do see the occasional ad text and/or image attached by members' email interfaces.

I think that another group platforms not generating this PNG from the
same client.

Also I tried a few conversations from the app with my contacts and
PNG wasn't there, definitly.

Interesting. Is it possible that the other list was plain-text only and quietly dropped the image?

That doesn't explain why you don't see it in direct conversation. Though I think the image is blank (possibly transparent) so it would be easy for someone to not notice it.

Feel free to contact me off-list to see if I see it directly, or play with it in my test group,


Shal

No, I just mean that nobody attached this PNG, and I called it false positive.

Its irritating that we cannot do anything to prevent this PNG, but Windows 10 mail app is widely used in our community.

I think that another group platforms not generating this PNG from the same client.

Also I tried a few conversations from the app with my contacts and PNG wasn't there, definitly.


18.10.2017. u 22:09, Shal Farley je napisao/la:

Aleksandar,

I am not sure is it Groups bug or app bug, but, as we are sending
messages using Windows 10 integrated mail app we have this kind of
attachments.

I presume you were talking about the image (PNG, 708 x 1 pixels) that was attached to your message? I'm betting that's coming from the posting member's email interface.

It was a PNG file, not a remote image, so it isn't used for tracking. It is only 148 bytes long but I wasn't entirely sure that the content is benign so out of caution I (moderator) trimmed it before approving your message.

I am just wondering could we do something to prevent false positive
attachments?

What do you mean by "false positive"? Is the image causing a spam filter to quarantine the messages? Or an anti-malware program?

Shal

Hello,

I am not sure is it Groups bug or app bug, but, as we are sending messages using Windows 10 integrated mail app ? we have this kind of attachments.

?I am forwarding to you my message and you can review.

I am just wondering could we do something to prevent false positive attachments?

Toby,

Could be - forgot to mention that the ICS file in question was the
one emailed to members when you check "Send invite to group".

Confirmed. In my test case I got three errors:

1. Lines not delimited by CRLF sequence near line # 1
2. Missing required TZID property near line # 6
3. At least one STANDARD or DAYLIGHT property must be defined here near line # 6

I'll go ahead and submit to support.

Ok, good.

Shal

re:?Or you and I aren't doing the same thing.
Could be - forgot to mention that the ICS file in question was the one emailed to members when you check "Send invite to group". The file has LF line terminators (Unix style) not CR/LF (Windows style). But file does not import to google calendar and yields this message - "Failed to import events: Unable to process your iCal/CSV file.." even after changing LF to CRLF.
I'll go ahead and submit to support.
Thanks
Toby