Ken,

I am a member of several groups, so I know about "Flame Wars" and so
forth. The usual response seems to be for a Moderator to step in say
"Take it off-list."

A flame war is one circumstance in which you might consider temporarily checking the Moderated box in the Spam Control section of the group's settings page. That way you can reject messages that are more heat than light. It is the ultimate fire extinguisher, if you want to use it that way. Or, simply causing message traffic to slow down (due to the time it takes you to get around to approving them) can substantially cool the flames.

But in normal times, I concur with your choice of New Users Moderated as adequate spam control.

This is what my Group Settings look like right now:

I'm not sure if you also need Restricted Membership. That's up to you as a matter of the group's "culture" - whether you're open to people of all backgrounds and level of experience who are interested in your topic, or whether you want to qualify members by some criteria. I don't know enough about your vision for your group to advise one or the other for this.

Having the group's messages visible to anyone can be a benefit to help and hobby groups where the subject matter is impersonal. It means, among other things, that people can find your group's messages in web search results on the topic, thus potentially growing the group.

There are other types of groups, such as my classmate group, where we discuss things we wouldn't want to see on a billboard, including our phone numbers and addresses and when we'll be attending a reunion, etc.

So the Visibility setting for the group's messages is something that you want to fit the nature of the group and the type of information its members share. It sounds like you've got the right choice for a technical group.

You might want to consider making the group's Wiki visible to the public as well, for much the same reason. Your type of group is unlikely to put any personal information in there, so this increases the material that might lead more people to find your group.

Shal


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I am still asking myself if monitoring a Group is how I want to
spend my remaining time on Earth.

Well, "monitoring" is the wrong word here. What you should be
doing is "moderating", i.e. step in when you are needed, but
don't do anything else (unless you are also going to be a
participant).

Samuel

On my own groups I typically respond to situations as the "list janitor". When I post as myself, I use my name to close the post. Eventually I suspect you'll find that what you do is watch the traffic and enjoy the threads. Most of what you might do is typically behind the scenes and no one notices.

Dano

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 10:01 PM, Dakotta Alex wrote:

Any ideas how to fix the one issue on tracking? (anyone)?

IIRC one of Groups.io's selling points (along with "no advertising") was (is?) "no tracking", although I have to admit I cannot find anywhere at the moment that specfically says either.

On that basis I'm not sure how Mark would react to someone operating tracking on a specific group or groups.

Chris

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 09:49 PM, Ken KM4NFQ wrote:

I do everything that I need to do on a computer with Free Open Source Software.

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That's fine but of no help when other members decide to upload photos. It's much better to get the "uploading" resizing setting right and that will keep everybody's photos to a sensible size.

Chris

There's also the free Irfanview that lets you resize by percentage,
dpi, or pixels.



Simple, easy to figure out and use, and small in size. Nothing too
fancy--it's not a Photoshop--but it can make some enhancements as
well.

It's been around a long time and keeps improving, and the price is
right! (free)

Donald


On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 12:58:56 -0800, "bret" <bmaverick@...> wrote:

A faster way to resize is to open the image in paint, pick RESIZE, key in 800 for the pixel width and then a SAVE-AS. This will usually drop the image size down below half the original size. Should you need to go smaller, use the 640 for pixel size or the smaller 480.

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On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 09:16 PM, J Forster wrote:

I don't see any applicablke tools. Where are they please?

Jhn; it's unremittingly tedious; trust me I know.

The process is as follows:

• Go to the photo the ownership of which you want to reassign.
• Click on the photo.
• Click on Edit
• Find the box called Owner
• Click on the drop - down arrow at the right hand side of the box.
  
  This brings up a list of all your members' Display Names, but not in alphabetical order.
• Using your keyboard enter the initial letter of the Display Name of the member to whom you want to assign the photo.
• Continue to enter that letter until the required Display Name appears. Overshoot and you will have to start again; AFAIK there is no reverse gear!
• Once found click on it and the photo will be reassigned to the new owner.
• Procede to the next photo and repeat until you realise that you shouldn't have started...

Chris

Thanks Frances. Without search it was becoming slow, and impossible to merge messages beyond page 9 since the system returns you to page 1 after performing a merge.?

I've found a workaround to get past this.

1. Navigate to the page you want to start merging on, i.e. Page 14
2. Start the merge process as you normally would using the drop down to start merge, and then drop down to merge into. You are now on page 1.?
3. Instead of slowly paging forward back to page 14. Just do this... hit the browser back button twice, then refresh. You are now on page 14 and can see results of the merge.
4. Repeat steps above to perform your next merge.?

This works, but still think allowing a merge after a search would be ideal. I'm guessing the devs are pretty busy with all the Yahoo Group migrations right now. But would love to offer this suggestion to the team to see if they can include this in a future release of Groups.io.?

Also be aware that web beacons don't work in certain email clients.
The one I use has a sandbox of sorts when it renders HTML in messages
that won't let the beacon work.

It also prevents certain types of malware from executing from within
the message unless it's an attachment and I click on it. I use Forte
Agent, which may be on it's final iteration but it's a fantastic
Usenet newsgroup reader as well as a decent email client.

I still use it because of those security features.

Donald

On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 19:47:38 +0100, "Samuel Murray"
<samuelmurray@...> wrote:

Nothing prevents you from putting a web beacon in your own mails -- but
since the same message will be sent to several people, the web beacon
that everyone receives with that message will be identical, so it won't
tell you *which* people opened the mail, only *how many* people opened it.

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Duane,

I don't see any applicablke tools. Where are they please?

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On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 04:42 PM, Jerrie wrote:

but? all messages from all groups come with the full headers and no ideal who the sender is untill I open the message, this has been happening for a few weeks. before I could see who the message was from and the top of the messages was normal. I use Windows Live mail

Jerrie,

Is it possible that there has been a change in the way Windows Live mail works and you are being shown the full headers instead of seeing the mail in text view?

Here's a website that shows ways to get into viewing full headers. Perhaps you have fallen into that "trap".
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On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 08:40 PM, Dakotta Alex wrote:

I would want this for marketing purposes.

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I run recruiting / hr groups on yahoo currently and have a lot of software companies asking me to send “advertising emails” to my subscribers. ?

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Unfortunately I don’t have the read / open / forward rates to know how much I should charge.

Now I am not a lawyer but my initial instinct that what you are planning to do may be in conflict with the Terms of Service, specifically Conditions of Use sections 1.5 and 7.

I am perfectly prepared to be wrong about this, but I do recommend that you verify that what you are planning to do is consistent with the published ToS.

Chris

Ken,
?
A faster way to resize is to open the image in paint, pick RESIZE, key in 800 for the pixel width and then a SAVE-AS.? This will usually drop the image size down below half the original size.? Should you need to go smaller, use the 640 for pixel size or the smaller 480.
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There are FREE programs that can take a folder of images/photos and resize, save and put into a common file type all in one pick.? You just select a default setting or enter the resizing manually.?? This saves a HUGE amount of TIME.

Here are two of many programs out there ...

Flexxi - Batch Image Resizer?
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Batch Image - Batch Image Converter, Resizer?

So doing a hundred to a thousand images in a batch program would take a mere few minutes instead of hours upon hours of resize, clip, paste, and save.

?

Bret

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 02:55 PM, J Forster wrote:

In the Yahoo group, the pictures were most all taken and posted by members.
In the Groups pictures, some of the pictures are attributed to the appropriate members, but a large fraction are now (wrongfully) attributed to me.

If the person that posted the picture is no longer a member of the YG or they were bouncing and didn't get transferred, then 'ownership' was passed to you.? No way to get around it, so another transfer would have the same results.? If they do rejoin at some point, you can give them ownership using the tools on the site.

Duane
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On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 02:42 PM, Jerrie wrote:

this has been happening for a few weeks. before I could see who the message was from and the top of the messages was normal. I use Windows Live mail

Sounds to me like you changed a setting in your program.? On Thunderbird, I can set whether I see Normal or All headers.

Duane
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