On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 04:42 PM, Jerrie wrote:
but? all messages from all groups come with the full headers and no ideal who the sender is untill I open the message, this has been happening for a few weeks. before I could see who the message was from and the top of the messages was normal. I use Windows Live mail
Jerrie, Is it possible that there has been a change in the way Windows Live mail works and you are being shown the full headers instead of seeing the mail in text view? Here's a website that shows ways to get into viewing full headers. Perhaps you have fallen into that "trap". ? -- Gerald
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Re: How much time does it take to manage a group?
Thank you for your reply, Jim.
The thing is, my Group is not being transferred from anywhere else. Also, I do not think that there would be any situation that I can classify as an 'emergency'.
I have had computer hard drives crash with gigabytes of data that was not backed up. Sure, I had a sinking feeling in my stomach for a few minutes, but then kept on living. I replaced the hard drive and kept on trucking.
If goes belly up and disappears overnight, with all data lost, it's gone. I cannot think of it as an emergency. I will just keep on living. But not everyone thinks that way.
So thank you for your suggestion. ;-D
Regards,
Ken, KM4NFQ "Not Fully Qualified"
On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 3:39 PM Jim Fisher < ejf@...> wrote: I've just been moving some small, very old, groups from Yahoo to here. I had
never before had occasion to use a special notice, but it was perfect for
letting members know about it before it happened. Before doing so I checked the
member list (fortunately notr too big) and changed those on no mail to special
notices, and wished I had banned no mail to start with. I strongly recommend
doing it that way. You never know what emergency may arise.
Jim Fisher
On 17 Nov 2019 at 11:25, Ken KM4NFQ wrote:
> Thank you for your reply Duane.
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> I cannot, for the life of me, imagine an 'emergency' situation where I
> would need to contact everyone subscribed to the Group?
> This is just one of those things that I do not understand.
> It is an Internet email group. What could possibly go wrong?
> I cannot imagine that my Group will have anything that people cannot live
> without.
> If goes away, it goes away.
> No electrons will be harmed. No lives will be lost. ;-D
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Re: Open / Read Rates (Analytics of Mailed Messages)
On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 08:40 PM, Dakotta Alex wrote:
I would want this for marketing purposes.
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I run recruiting / hr groups on yahoo currently and have a lot of software companies asking me to send ¡°advertising emails¡± to my subscribers. ?
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Unfortunately I don¡¯t have the read / open / forward rates to know how much I should charge.
Now I am not a lawyer but my initial instinct that what you are planning to do may be in conflict with the Terms of Service, specifically Conditions of Use sections 1.5 and 7. I am perfectly prepared to be wrong about this, but I do recommend that you verify that what you are planning to do is consistent with the published ToS. Chris
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Re: Resizing Images (was: How much time does it take to manage a group?)
Ken,
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A faster way to resize is to open the image in paint, pick RESIZE, key in 800 for the pixel width and then a SAVE-AS.? This will usually drop the image size down below half the original size.? Should you need to go smaller, use the 640 for pixel size or the smaller 480.
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There are FREE programs that can take a folder of images/photos and resize, save and put into a common file type all in one pick.? You just select a default setting or enter the resizing manually.?? This saves a HUGE amount of TIME.
Here are two of many programs out there ...
Flexxi - Batch Image Resizer?
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Batch Image - Batch Image Converter, Resizer?
So doing a hundred to a thousand images in a batch program would take a mere few minutes instead of hours upon hours of resize, clip, paste, and save.
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Bret
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Re: Picture Attributions Changed
On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 02:55 PM, J Forster wrote:
In the Yahoo group, the pictures were most all taken and posted by members.
In the Groups pictures, some of the pictures are attributed to the appropriate members, but a large fraction are now (wrongfully) attributed to me.
If the person that posted the picture is no longer a member of the YG or they were bouncing and didn't get transferred, then 'ownership' was passed to you.? No way to get around it, so another transfer would have the same results.? If they do rejoin at some point, you can give them ownership using the tools on the site. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Re: How much time does it take to manage a group?
Thank you so much for your reply Allison.
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That is exactly what I was looking for: how much time do you spend on your group.
Less than 5 minutes a week sounds very encouraging!
Defaults sounds good too.
The less I have to tinker with it, the better.
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Regards,
Ken, KM4NFQ "Not Fully Qualified"
On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 3:42 PM Allison Coates < allison@...> wrote:
Hi Ken,
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I mostly lurk here on GMF. I'm a group owner of a small group (less than 60 folks, and messages fewer than a dozen a week.) Like you? I have no emergency situations in my group's future.
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It's taken me the original 20 minutes to create the group, and I spend less than 5 minutes a week moderating mesaages. When I read GMF, I learn a ton and think "oh, I should do that", or "what a good feature. we could do that!" but I've not gotten around to it, and life goes on. I'm not following the best practices, I know, but my group doesn't need me to. the defaults from are a-ok.
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What I do know is no one harangues me about yahoo post problems, lost messages, strange inabilities to sub or unsubscribe. It's painless.
So fear not!
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Allison Coates
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On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 02:42 PM, Jerrie wrote:
this has been happening for a few weeks. before I could see who the message was from and the top of the messages was normal. I use Windows Live mail
Sounds to me like you changed a setting in your program.? On Thunderbird, I can set whether I see Normal or All headers. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Picture Attributions Changed
In a transfer earlier today, the attributions of a lot of photos changed.
In the Yahoo group, the pictures were most all taken and posted by members.
In the Groups pictures, some of the pictures are attributed to the appropriate members, but a large fraction are now (wrongfully) attributed to me.
Any ideas how to remedy this, other than deleting all the pics and re-transferring?
Thanks.
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Re: How much time does it take to manage a group?
The answer to that is "It depends."? How large is the group and do you plan to moderate every post?? Is the group on a contentious topic that is likely to get people all bent out of shape and make ugly remarks and personal attacks?? The groups I own and moderate are not very time consuming at all.
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Re: Open / Read Rates (Analytics of Mailed Messages)
On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 02:40 PM, Dakotta Alex wrote:
So I was hoping to find a service I could track this.
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I'm not all that familiar with the process, but you'd probably need something like Constant Contact.? There's no tracking on GIO. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Re: Multiple e-mail problem
Hi Frances,
I was able to delete the ¡°wrong¡± account.?
I am not an owner or a moderator of the group in question. I have contacted the group owner to see if she can check on my membership in the group to see if I am indeed subscribed under both e-mail addresses.?
Thanks for your help.?
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On Nov 17, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Frances <frances@...> wrote:
?On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 11:15 AM, Ginger Iorizzo wrote:
Since I deleted the account with the "wrong" address will my messages now go to the hotmail address, or is there something else I need to do???I can't see the
membership list on that group to know if I am subscribed under two different e-mail addresses.??
If you can't see Admin, Members, you are not logged in as Owner. Perhaps as a moderator with limited permissions? But you still have to find your owner email address. (Assuming you are the owner).
Frances
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FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups
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No this is the only group I get a digest from but? all messages from all groups come with the full headers and no ideal who the sender is untill I open the message, this has been happening for a few weeks. before I could see who the message was from and the top of the messages was normal. I use Windows Live mail
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Re: How much time does it take to manage a group?
Hi Ken,
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I mostly lurk here on GMF. I'm a group owner of a small group (less than 60 folks, and messages fewer than a dozen a week.) Like you? I have no emergency situations in my group's future.
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It's taken me the original 20 minutes to create the group, and I spend less than 5 minutes a week moderating mesaages. When I read GMF, I learn a ton and think "oh, I should do that", or "what a good feature. we could do that!" but I've not gotten around to it, and life goes on. I'm not following the best practices, I know, but my group doesn't need me to. the defaults from are a-ok.
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What I do know is no one harangues me about yahoo post problems, lost messages, strange inabilities to sub or unsubscribe. It's painless.
So fear not!
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Allison Coates
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On Sunday, November 17, 2019, Ken KM4NFQ < km4nfq@...> wrote:
Thank you for your reply Duane.
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I cannot, for the life of me, imagine an 'emergency' situation where I would need to contact everyone subscribed to the Group?
This is just one of those things that I do not understand.
It is an Internet email group. What could possibly go wrong?
I cannot imagine that my Group will have anything that people cannot live without.
If goes away, it goes away.
No electrons will be harmed. No lives will be lost. ;-D
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Nevertheless, I have noted the 'No Email' and 'Special Notices Only' options. Thank you.
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A friend of mine just subscribed to my Group so I could see what happens and how much time it would take to do whatever I need to do.
It is really effortless.
In this case I logged in to the Group dashboard and approved the new member manually.
However, the email I received said I only needed to reply to the email to do the same thing.
So really, that shouldn't take much time at all.
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The options I have under Members > Pending Approval > Actions are:
Approve
Reject
Claim
Send Message
Ban
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The only one I am not sure about is 'Claim'. But I am pretty sure it is explained in the Wiki or somewhere.
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Anyway, approving new members shouldn't take much time at all! Great!
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Regards,
Ken, KM4NFQ "Not Fully Qualified"
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Hey Duane,
Thanks for letting me know that I can use the address without "main" in it and still have email end up at the same place.
One thing more, can you let me know what will happen to the email archive if I delete the subgroup?
Since the group name will revert to the original name without "main" in it, will it affect the archived messages or no?
Best,
Karen
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Re: Open / Read Rates (Analytics of Mailed Messages)
Yes.
I would want this for marketing purposes.
I run recruiting / hr groups on yahoo currently and have a lot of software companies asking me to send ¡°advertising emails¡± to my subscribers. ?
Unfortunately I don¡¯t have the read / open / forward rates to know how much I should charge.
So I was hoping to find a service I could track this.
Thanks, Dakotta?
On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 7:43 PM Sarah k Alawami < marrie12@...> wrote:
Can you give a use case as to why you would need this in the first place? Are you doing this for marketing purposes, branding, etc?
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP.
On 17 Nov 2019, at 9:38, Dakotta Alex wrote:
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Hi - does anyone know if we can access analytics (read/open rates) to all messages being shared?
I'm curious to know how many of my members actually open the emails or forward them, etc.
Thanks!
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Re: A few general questions
On 17 Nov 2019 19:32, Samuel Murray wrote: On 17 Nov 2019 18:57, Dakotta Alex wrote about *integrating WordPress*: 3. I want to integrate the sign-up process on my WordPress site, is that easy to do?
Do you mean that you want people who have signed up to your WordPress site to automatically become members of your Groups.io group?? And be automatically removed from your Groups.io group when they deregister or are removed from your WordPress site? Wait... the enterprize package offers support for Auth0 single sign-on. Would this be something that might interest you? Sorry, I know very little about what single sign-on systems entail. /static/pricingSamuel
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Re: How much time does it take to manage a group?
I've just been moving some small, very old, groups from Yahoo to here. I had never before had occasion to use a special notice, but it was perfect for letting members know about it before it happened. Before doing so I checked the member list (fortunately notr too big) and changed those on no mail to special notices, and wished I had banned no mail to start with. I strongly recommend doing it that way. You never know what emergency may arise. Jim Fisher On 17 Nov 2019 at 11:25, Ken KM4NFQ wrote: Thank you for your reply Duane.
I cannot, for the life of me, imagine an 'emergency' situation where I
would need to contact everyone subscribed to the Group?
This is just one of those things that I do not understand.
It is an Internet email group. What could possibly go wrong?
I cannot imagine that my Group will have anything that people cannot live
without.
If groups.io goes away, it goes away.
No electrons will be harmed. No lives will be lost. ;-D --
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Re: A few general questions
On 17 Nov 2019 19:24, Derek Milliner wrote regarding *tracking open/read rates*: Dakotta wrote:
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/24030
1. Can i track (open / read rates)? I'm not aware of anything to track read rates on the Web forum. For practical purposes there is no feedback from email clients opening messages without doing something like adding web bugs (somewhat anti-social) I have the same opinion as Derek, in that the only way that you would be able to track whether people opened the mail is using a web beacon (though unlike Derek I don't object to it). There is no way to add the web beacon to posts made by others, unless you set all messages to moderate and then manually insert the customised web beacon into the message before allowing it to be sent to the group. Nothing prevents you from putting a web beacon in your own mails -- but since the same message will be sent to several people, the web beacon that everyone receives with that message will be identical, so it won't tell you *which* people opened the mail, only *how many* people opened it. You also can't put a web beacon in the footer, because the footer is plain text (in "HTML" view, the footer is somewhat formatted but you can't control the formatting yourself). I know of no feature available to higher paying users of Groups.io that would allow such a thing. Samuel
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Re: Owner died - how can I transfer yahoo-group without being able to add a new moderator?
#owner
#transfer
Hello all, For some reason or other I was able to use the Easy Transfer Route as a moderator of my Yahoo Group. ?I sent an ¡°invite¡± to Groups.io from my Yahoo Group, which allowed them access my Yahoo Group and do their ¡°magic¡±. ?I know that one size doesn¡¯t fit all but it did work in my case. ?I believe the address I used was: ? [email protected]?... ??
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