The other thing to keep in mind is that yahoo is glitching and changing almost hourly.? I am in the process of moving four groups over, and sometimes yahoo lets the moderator do anything and at other times won't even allow the owner access to the group.? So on the groups I'm having trouble with, the other moderators and owners and I are trying repeatedly to get in and make the needed changes.? Sometimes we've succeeded; sometimes not.

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Mat,

I have recently set up a groups.io group, and am unable to post to it
via email
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Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 500 Invalid request, no reverse DNS for
109.203.100.47

The mail server connecting to Groups.io to deliver your message is failing Groups.io's test for its validity.

This has cropped up from time to time before, but I don't recall if there was a resolution. Maybe search for "reverse DNS" in GMF's and/or beta's Messages.

The simple answer might be to use a different email service. Beyond that I think you'd have to get some technical help from your email service.

Shal


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On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 07:48 PM, Steve Tyler wrote:

I have not seen any options available? to reconfigure the Home page, other than the picture. Are there any tools or options available that I've overlooked?

To customize the Home page beyond the basics, you need to have an Enterprise group, /static/pricing

Duane
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Dale,

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I have done this with a group and things are going pretty good as a free groups.io account.? In our case, the owner was locked out and couldn't get in, so with his permission, I started a new groups.io account.? There were about 27000 messages and about 400mb of photos and 32 mb of files.? We let people on the old group know about the new group and about 100 out of some 600 members on the old group joined up.? That also weeded out the inactive membership as the activity on the list hasn't dropped in the least.?

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The one problem we had was that occasionally someone would send their email to the group to xxx@... instead of "@groups.io,"most likely due to either the fact that they hadn't been keeping up with the group and hadn't seen the messages about the new group or they just got the address from their address book. ? Since there was no owner access to the Yahoo group, we couldn't shut down posting.? When that happened, we had a flurry of replys to the old group, none of which were included in our slowly building message archive at groups.io, and new members who hadn't been in the old group just didn't get them.? To solve this, I set up a mail filter that moved any messages for that group at Yahoo to a separate mailbox. ? As an owner of the new group, I forwarded them to the new group with a tactful note to not send messages to the Yahoo group.? We haven't had that problem for a while now and it will probably be less frequent now that there is no Yahoo web site from which to send mail.

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I downloaded all the group content using PG Offline.? I then went to the new group and uploaded first the files, which was easy as there weren't that many of them.? Photos were a bit harder, but it took me about an afternoon to load the photos and albums individually.?? Unfortunately you can't upload a whole album at once.? You have to create the album and then upload its contents.?? If you have a larger group, this job can be split up making it less onerous for the individual doing it.

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The final sticking point was the archive of past messages.? While I am still hoping for an easy way to port from PG Offline to Groups.io, I did work out an interim solution.

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I exported the messages to html files by year to keep the size of the HTML files to a reasonable size.? I set 5000 messages as the page size and didn't go over it in any year.?

Since I also do several websites, I created an index page for the HTML pages created by PG Offline and loaded everything in a corner of one of my websites and made it a subdomain that can be directly accessed by a reasonable length url.? One caveat though.? You need to rename the PG Offline file as soon as is created as the next years file will overwrite it.

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I know this won't work for everyone, but aside from the last issue of the message archive should be doable.? For that final step you need someone who can create a web page index and has a place to host it.

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Good luck and if you have any questions feel free to contact me off group.

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Dale Smith

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 09:21 PM, Dale Smith wrote:

Bruce,

Yahoo allows mail to be sent to addresses other than the sign in email for Yahoo groups.? Right now, my Yahoo groups mail is sent to the Yahoo sign in email.?? I can change the delivery to another email address without changing the Yahoo sign in email, such as the one I use for groups.io.?

My question is which address will groups.io use to either create a new account or associate it with an existing account.?? The Yahoo sign on address or the Yahoo designated email delivery address??? I think it is the latter.? Can you confirm?

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As Bruce said,?In groups.io, your email address is your account. So not your Yahoo sign in.?

If you are transferring a group, your own posts will be moved with the email address you used for Yahoo.?

You can change your email address easily in Groups.io
Bruce, I think, was also talking about waiting until any groups you belong to are moved.

You can also make an alias for sending posts to your groups - but you don't receive any at the alias address.?

Here's about changing your address, adding an email alias and merging accounts:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Profile-and-Email-Address-and-Merging-Accounts

I would change to your usual email address when things are settled for you.

Frances

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 09:28 PM, J Forster wrote:

In the interval between the scrape and upload messages continue to be posted to the Yahoo group.
There messages will not be scraped and uploaded.

Is there any way to download the interim messages and upload them to the correct place?

Also, relatedly, the scraping missed a few messages because of Yahoo spazzing.
Can these be manually downloaded and inserted into the new message files in the correct places?

Unfortunately you can't do a lot. You can download them and save them as files in your new group, forward them (but without the right member's name).?
See for ideas - 10 b) and 10 c) -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups

You need to announce to everyone that your Yahoo Group has moved. Put everyone on moderate.?

The transfer wiki page says:?


Frances
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This may have been asked before and I apologize if that's the case.

Groups.io scrapes a Yahoo group and then ques it for upload to he new group.
In the interval between the scrape and upload messages continue to be posted to the Yahoo group.
There messages will not be scraped and uploaded.

Is there any way to download the interim messages and upload them to the correct place?

Also, relatedly, the scraping missed a few messages because of Yahoo spazzing.
Can these be manually downloaded and inserted into the new message files in the correct places?

Thanks

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Bruce,

Yahoo allows mail to be sent to addresses other than the sign in email for Yahoo groups.? Right now, my Yahoo groups mail is sent to the Yahoo sign in email.?? I can change the delivery to another email address without changing the Yahoo sign in email, such as the one I use for groups.io.?

My question is which address will groups.io use to either create a new account or associate it with an existing account.?? The Yahoo sign on address or the Yahoo designated email delivery address??? I think it is the latter.? Can you confirm?

Dale

Steve, you can edit the text, but I don't believe you can't change the format. With the Advanced Toolbar (the hamburger menu), you can style it, choose fonts, size, colour. There is also source code - you may be able to do something there.

It is in Admin, Settings, scroll down for Description.

Frances


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Sorry if this is basic, but I couldn't find an answer on a quick search. I'm in the process of migrating several Yahoo! Groups sites to Groups.io, and I have not seen any options available? to reconfigure the Home page, other than the picture. Are there any tools or options available that I've overlooked?

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 08:12 PM, Dale Putnam wrote:

Basically, how do you move a group that doesn't have an owner, and there are no moderators to allow permissions or a new

position to anyone?

Dale -- Without these permissions, you cannot use the Easy Group Transfer, and will have to migrate group content manually.

More information at?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups, item #10.

Bruce

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 07:53 PM, Dale Smith wrote:

Thanks, but will changing the Yahoo mail delivery address to the same as my groups.io address set it up for future account transfers to enroll me under that groups.io account?

Dale -- In groups.io, your email address is your account. If a future transfer moves your Yahoo address, that account will be set up all over again, possibly requiring a second merge operation. I don't know your personal situation with respect to how many groups you are in, what email address you have subscribed in each of them, or the likelihood of any of them being migrated later. I can only point you to the available tools, and leave the timing up to you.

Good luck,
Bruce

Bruce,

Thanks, but will changing the Yahoo mail delivery address to the same as my groups.io address set it up for future account transfers to enroll me under that groups.io account?

Dale -- You can merge your own accounts, but you cannot merge someone else's.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Profile-and-Email-Address-and-Merging-Accounts?for instructions.

Bruce

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 06:15 PM, Dale Smith wrote:

I was using a different email for my Yahoo groups than I did for groups.io.? Now that several of those groups have transferred, I have two Groups.io accounts.? Is there a way to merge them, presumably best done after this rush of transfers is completed, or do I just have to join the groups with my main groups.io account.?

Dale -- You can merge your own accounts, but you cannot merge someone else's.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Profile-and-Email-Address-and-Merging-Accounts?for instructions.

Bruce

I was using a different email for my Yahoo groups than I did for groups.io.? Now that several of those groups have transferred, I have two Groups.io accounts.? Is there a way to merge them, presumably best done after this rush of transfers is completed, or do I just have to join the groups with my main groups.io account.?? I would like to keep my ownership of photos and files if possible.?? Should I change my Yahoo main account email to match the groups.io email or is just changing the delivery email enough.? (Which one does groups.io transfer use.)? Any suggestions?? These are accounts where I am only a member.? My own groups I moved over long ago.

Dale Smith

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 06:06 PM, Suzanne H wrote:

I was looking for the transfer set up page that Bruce spoke of and found?/edittransfer?start=1? I don't see any option to opt out of having a notice sent to everyone upon transfer.

Suzanne -- You have to click the green "Start Group Transfer Process" button. Once you actually have a transfer initiated and are at the "invite the transfer agent" step, at that point the screen will refresh and you'll see the extra opt-out checkbox.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups#Step-2-E28094-Set-Up-and-Start-the-Transfer-Process?for screenshots.

Bruce

On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 05:49 PM, Suzanne H wrote:

How do I get to the transfer set up page you mention if I have already requested the transfer but I'm still in the queue.? Can I change anything at this point?

Suzanne -- It appears that you've already given the go-ahead to transfer and are counting down your place in the upload queue. That being so, it's too late to change the entries in the checkboxes. If you want to make any changes now you will have to contact support ([email protected]).?

The folks on the yahoo list know the group is being transferred and have been supportive.? The reason I want to postpone the welcome email is that I got the message below from in an email after I initiated the transfer request.? If there is anything I have to do manually or try to figure out how to clean up, I was hoping to do that before the welcome message was sent.

While that's fine, it's also rather unlikely.?

To be clear, the checkbox refers to the transfer completion notification, not the welcome notice. As for the latter, I'm not longer certain it would be sent in any event.

I think I've read about some folks who have had to request the transfer be done a second time to get satisfactory results - or have I misunderstood this?

This was more common in the past, but there haven't been many recent reports to that effect. Most of the discussions of "missing content" in the past three weeks have been from those who simply needed to wait for the message indexing to catch up, or who read the number of topics on the group home page and mistook that for the number of messages. And if a few files or photos are left behind, it's usually easier to move the stragglers manually (if you can get to them at all) than it is to request a new transfer.