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On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 06:28 PM, James Bean wrote:

One of the members of my group was able to make a copy of the message
archive of an old Yahoo Group that no longer has a living owner.

the odd ball file type Yahoo gives out

IF there can be a way to?IMPORT/UPLOAD messages to the sub-group?

There is a way:
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/22251

Lena

Frances,
? That is where I saw that attachments had 3.2 GB of image storage, but as far as I know it is a Basic (Free) list created in 2017.
That list owner has been complaining that a new list I created has an image storage limit because I limit attachment size and image size
while his list does not because most all their images are attachments to messages.? Maybe he actually now has a Premium list and his
image limit is now 10GB, but he hasn't admitted to that it isn't a Basic (Free) list.??

Perhaps the list type, Basic, Premium, Enterprise; should be listed on the Home Page and in the groups directory.? And avoid jumping
to conclusions.
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ken clark

www.shastasprings.com

Evidently bouncing messages or deleting images when 1 GB image storage is reached does not actually happen.? 3.2 GB of image storage is way, way over the 1GB limit and
the list is not bouncing messages, deleting old attachments, or preventing storing of message attachment images, image storage just keeps growing and growing.
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ken clark

www.shastasprings.com

There is no way to upload messages into a GIO group or subgroup and get them into the same form as the GIO messages.?

However, there is software that will convert mbox files to various other formats. An example is??.

Pete

On 11/9/2019 2:17 AM, Shal Farley wrote:

> a) I now have 1000+ members that are set to Moderated after first
> post. Unmoderating them one at a time seems .. painful, so there has
> to be a better way?
Use the feature as it was intended: wait until a member posts, and then approve his/her message.

Sure, I get that function. But I just transferred a fully functioning list. As I said, there should be a better way. I don't NEED to approve each post like they're new. They're not new. Fro lists bulk added from Yahoo, where I paid a pretty penny for that functionality, there's no point in not flagging all of them as not requiring moderation, and a lot of reason for those imported addresses to be flagged as not requiring moderation.

The only option is to have to manually reapprove 1000s of people? That's not a feature. That is, as I point out, painful. For each post I would have to manually go approve them. When they were already approved under Yahoo.

This is a transfer question. For those users migrated from Yahoo, I shouldn't have to go re-approve them manually. Or I should have an option to approve them all before or after the migration somewhere.

That will unmoderate him/her automatically, depending on your group's Unmoderate After selection. This minimizes your effort, and defers it until needed. And, because you can approve messages using the web or by email (reply to the Message Approval Needed notice), it is something you can do whichever way is easiest for you at the moment. Lurkers who don't post don't take up any of your time.

It doesn't minimize my effort, it creates a lot of NEW effort. On a list where people communicate, people post, and their message doesn't show up until I get around to approving it. That causes people to wonder why their email is delayed.

To say Lurkers don't take up any of my time is nonsensical. If everyone was approved, then none of this would take up any of my time. If I had the ability to apply bulk changes to the list, even this email wouldn't be taking up my time.


On most modern interfaces, where I can only see 20 people at a time (out of 1000s), I'm presented with an option when I Select All on the page for whether I want to select all users/all messages/all data. Then I just bulk approve/change all of them.

> b) I don't want new users to be moderated. Is there a path to this?
You must choose (at least) one of the boxes in the Spam Control section of your group's Settings page. So if not New Users Moderated, Restricted Membership is your next most likely choice.
Like approving messages, you can approve membership requests by web or email, whichever is most convenient at the moment.

Yes, swell I get that. Note I don't agree with it, because that's also a option that I should have available to me. It should be possible to permit people to just sign up. If that causes me spam, I could just change to a different moderation system. Given it hasn't been a problem for me, on a list that's existed since 1999, I'm not that worried about it.

> I want people to be able to join, and then not be moderated. That was
> a choice for us in Yahoo Groups, and it was never a problem.
Both unrestricted and unmoderated is not an option here. It may not have been a problem for your Yahoo Group, but many Yahoo Groups were overrun by spammers when their admins stopped paying attention. Groups.io does not want that happening here.

Well, most importantly, I wish I'd realized that philosophy before I migrated. Because that should be an option.

Heck, make it an option that it's renewable, or with a limit. But I should be able to have an unrestricted unmoderated group.

> Similarly, if I want to change the moderation setting for all
members, > I don't appear to be able to select all, just 20 at a time?
You can change the number of members per page, up to 100, using the Items Per Page setting on the Preferences in your Account. There is an "Infinite Scroll" option for that setting, but others have reported problems with that choice on some pages, so I don't recommend it.

Great, so what you're saying is the workaround is lousy, and doesn't work really well. Even more support for a "select all" option somewhere.

I can semi-bulk approve everyone to not be moderated (100 at a time). OK, that's better than 20 at a time at least. I suggest that if that's the case, I should ALSO be able to just "Select ALL" on that interface. If I can do it a painful way, I should also be able to do it a simple way.

Rick

No this is a group created back in 2017 and then closed their YG site Christmas of 2017 after the list transferred.
Evidently they have not enabled the option to delete old attachments if they exceed the 1 GB storage limit, so they are allowed to exceed the 1 GB max image storage limit without
having to convert to a Premium list.? Members of that group are complaining on a list I just transferred that for the new list the photos are stored in Photo albums which limits the
image storage capacity to 1GB while if the images are attachments there is not practical limit.

? I'm not sure after downsizing 3 GB of images stored in YG photos in order to transfer images and fit?under the 1GB image limit, that I want to tell subscribers that it the images had instead been
stored as attachments they wouldn't have needed to be downsized.? Maybe I'll tell them that after the YG lists transfers end in December; this loophole will be closed.
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ken clark

www.shastasprings.com

Okay, the answer I hope!

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Managing-Attachments%2C-Files-and-Photos

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On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 04:24 PM, Frances wrote:

And a subscriber can't see the Direct Add feature.

Neither will a subscriber see a warning email to the effect that 80% of the storage limit has been reached.

Chris

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:05 AM, Frances wrote:

How about a feature like Direct Add. It is visible in your admin panel, in Invite.
Since I don't have access to Admin for a premium or enterprise group, I can't see it. But it is in the wiki -?
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Direct-Add-From-Yahoo

Sorry, I see in the original post of this thread, Ken asked "How can I tell if a list is Basic or Premium as a subscriber?" And a subscriber can't see the Direct Add feature.

Frances
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Re-booting fixed thx

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 03:58 PM, Frances wrote:

We send you a warning when you've reached 80% of your storage limit.

Trouble is that feature doesn't seem to be working, and IIRC Mark acknowledged that fact at some point.

Chris

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 05:01 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote

You do have a separate Welcome message set up and activated for this destination subgroup, right?

Bruce

Bruce,

Right. Each of the Welcome notices is "personalized" for the particular group or subgroup, including the subject line and various points in the body of the message, e.g., the group's email address, description of purpose, and the links to? the group's Home page and to "set your subscription settings." So, eleven different Welcome notices.

Robert R.

How about a feature like Direct Add. It is visible in your admin panel, in Invite.
Since I don't have access to Admin for a premium or enterprise group, I can't see it. But it is in the wiki -?
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Direct-Add-From-Yahoo

Frances


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The pricing page from Groups.io says:
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GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers

Ken -- Old attachments are only deleted automatically if you have it set up that way (Admin>Settings>Message Policies>Out of Space). And to be honest, I'm not even sure that works correctly.
The main "symptom" of being over quota is the inability to upload additional photos or files to those respective storage areas.

Bruce - this worries me. We're a premium group following migrating from yahoo, but going back to basic at the end of a year. Are you suggesting that the "delete old attachments" option may not actually do that??

Does anyone have any experience, positive or negative, with that option?

{Pete

Edward,

The browse function is actually carried out by the web browser calling some code on the device you're using (PC, 'phone etc.). So basically the problem is at your device, not the GIO side of things. Some things to try:

• Close your browser down completely and restart it, try the browse again
• If you can, try a different browser
• If you're on Windows, try restarting Windows; I have seen in the past that things break randomly when Windows applies updates in the background.

Derek

Hi Group;

I'm not able to add new photos to an existing album that was recently transferred from Yahoo groups.
It keeps locking up when selecting to browse for file.

Sincerely;
Edward Borg

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 03:05 PM, SP4149 wrote:

One Basic list is using 3.2 GBs for attachment storage of images?instead of the Photos?storage ( only 229 MBs). I thought when you used that much storage the attachments would be deleted automatically or you had to upgrade to Premium.??

Is this a group that has recently migrated from Yahoo, "recently" being defined since transfers had to be paid for.

If so it has the advantage of being Premium for a year, hence the generous amount of storage. I must say that 3.2 GB of attachments does sound rather a lot...?

I can't say for sure if a subscriber can differentiate between Basic / Premium / Enterprise other than by perhaps noticing how much of the allowable storage has been used up but I suspect not; others may know better!?

Chris