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Re: Personalgroupware (PG Offline)

 

Larry,

Our group prefers to use the messages in one large Excel file.? About 9Mb for a mere 32,000 messages.

This way, exported from PGOffline as a CVS file, and then into OpenOffice, and excel file can be made.? This file than can be saved in a files location on Groups.io to download.? The file is easy to search for topics or words or just about anything really.

I have 3 groups merging into 1 here.? PGOffline give the flexibility, but a person must do the leg work to make it all happen.? Reading how these other group are doing direct transfers and their problems, I believe our actions are working better in the long run.

Next to the John Deere tractor group, our tractor group is the second largest at 4,294 members.?
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Scott,

How exactly do I tell Groups.io that I am ready? Do I click Update
Transfer button?
No, the green "Give Go Ahead to Transfer" button. See the screenshot at the bottom of Step 3 here:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

Step 4 you've accomplished, and when you click that button you should advance to the next screen, as shown in Step 5.

Note that the status message shown at the top of screenshot in Step 5 has been updated to be more informative, but I haven't run another transfer in order to get a fresh screen shot. If anyone out there is running a transfer and would like to send me off-list new screen shots (of any step in that page) I'll be happy to update the page.

Shal


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subgroups and members of the main group becoming membes of it

 

Can a subgroup be set up so that all members of the main group can
automatically be members of both the main and sub group once I create
it?

I plan on storing the old Yahoo messages in a subgroup, separate from
the main one.

If this is possible, how is that worked out, and if not, what's the
best way to get everyone to become a member of the subgroup? Some
members will no doubt be PC challenged, as is the case with many
groups.

Donald

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Re: Refund

 

Dennis,

How easy is it to get a refund if yahoo continues to change the rules
and glitch and I am not able to transfer a group for which I've
already paid the $220?
Easy. Just contact [email protected]

At this point it seems about the only thing that's likely to stand in your way is if you are unable to invite or promote the transfer agent in your Yahoo Group. See the "Test your ability to promote members in your Yahoo Group" in the Preparation section of GMF's transfer notes:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

The queue of groups waiting to be exported from Yahoo seems to be relatively short, and once past that stage the content that could be read from Yahoo is secure at Groups.io. So you should still have plenty of time before the Yahoo cutoff.

Shal


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Mr. Bowman,

OK, now I have made the [email protected] member a moderator and returned to the "Existing Transfer"?and I am ready to? transfer, and tell us that you are ready for the transfer to happen. How exactly do I tell Groups.io that I am ready? Do I click Update Transfer button? I just don't want to do something to mess it up. Thanks again.

Scott.


Re: deleting messages

 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 09:43 PM, WBennett wrote:

This is an established groups.io group from back in January 2018.

Important to know...for those who have recently transferred, the attachments were not transferred with your messages.

I know about the messages not counting towards the 1gig allocation. I was hoping that I could delete early messages, thereby deleting any attachments or insertions in them at the same time. There is no point in keeping the messages if the related attachments or insertions are removed anyway.

Sort the messages in inverse date order by clicking the Date link at upper right, then see?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/22411?for instructions on how to delete messages and/or entire topics. It is tedious.

If most of your attachments consist of photos, they might be more efficiently deleted from the Emailed Photos folder.

See also:?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Deleting%20attachments,%20files%20and%20photos

Bruce


Re: deleting messages

 

(Will this happen, or will the attachments stay in storage even though the corresponding message is no longer there?)
I just tested and deleting a topic (or message) deletes the attachment. In Photos, I can see the amount of storage going down after I delete some. Just go to Photos - menu on the left in your group home.

As far a jumping down a list, you can't jump ahead except the small amount displayed but you can change the number of items displayed on the screen. Go to your name in the top right corner. Choose Account, Preferences, change the number for Items per Page. (Some reported problems with infinite scroll.)
Be sure to Update Preferences at the bottom of the page.

I can¡¯t find any way to jump to the oldest message other than change the date order ¡­ is that correct?
Just by using the toggle beside word date - the little blue triangle.

Frances


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Re: deleting messages

 

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Thank you Frances¡­

This is an established groups.io group from back in January 2018.

I know about the messages not counting towards the 1gig allocation. I was hoping that I could delete early messages, thereby deleting any attachments or insertions in them at the same time. There is no point in keeping the messages if the related attachments or insertions are removed anyway.

There are no photo albums, just the folder of images inserted in the emails (and I¡¯ve already attempted to delete those on several previous occasions with problems about clicking on an image to open it does not open the selected photo but opens one or 2 further on. This problem has never been resolved despite a couple of emails to Mark a LONG time ago before the current Yahoo debacle, he didn¡¯t even respond to the last one.

There is no Wiki containing photos, no database¡­ all I have are messages with attached and/or inserted images.

The files area is only 84 MB in total, so is not really a problem.

I have looked through this groups Wiki and there is nothing (or I can¡¯t find it) which is helpful to my specific request.

So, once again, do I have to open each message to be able to delete it??

Win

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frances
Sent: Friday, 8 November 2019 12:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] deleting messages

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Win, good news! Messages don't count as part of your allowance.

What Is Counted Towards The Storage Limits For My Group?

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The following are counted towards the storage limits for your group:

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Files

Photos

Images in databases

Images in wiki pages

Message attachments

Messages themselves are not counted towards the storage limits, only any attachments.

Source:
/static/pricing#what-is-counted-towards-the-storage-limits-for-my-group

Removing content is tedious. If you view messages as topics, it is faster. But only remove old ones with attachments. If you migrated from YahooGroups, attachments weren't migrated.

See 5. What gets transferred using the Transfer Agent?

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Groups.io can transfer message archives, properly owned and properly threaded, (without attachments, however), photos, files, links and databases. Calendar entries are not copied at this time. Subscribers (members) are also transferred, maintaining their subscription options and ownership of each message and other group content.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups

Frances

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Re: Multiple copies of the same message

 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 09:36 PM, jdgalt wrote:
Is there a way to tell the groups.io system to keep only the latest
version of each edited message?
Well, that's kinda what happens anyway.

In the online message archive, only the most recent version of a message will display. But if it's been edited, you can click on the blue Edited tag at upper right to show what changes have been made, and when.

As far as emails are concerned, every time a regular subscriber edits a message, it is sent out again to those who are on Individual Emails delivery. If that is objectionable, you need to train people to get their edits right the first time, or simply disable message editing entirely in your settings (Admin>Settings>Message Policies>Disable Editing Messages).

Bruce


Re: Multiple copies of the same message

 

On 11/07/2019 06:26 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 09:19 PM, jdgalt wrote:

None of which is the command I need: "Find his Messages."

Click on that member's record, anywhere in the row, to open it. On the
User Name row, click "View Profile." When the profile page opens, click
"All Messages by this Member."

Or if you already have one of his messages open, click open the "More"
hamburger menu at bottom right and select the menu entry with the same name.
Thanks, that worked!

Now that I see it, it looks like he posted a message and then edited
that same message over and over again.

Is there a way to tell the groups.io system to keep only the latest
version of each edited message?


Re: Owner setting for files

 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 09:27 PM, Susan B wrote:
We¡¯re finding that group owners can only move or delete their own files.
Susan -- Look at the Home button at upper left. Is there a blue Owner badge next to it? If not, you are not logged in as an Owner.

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Group-Content-Is-Missing?for further info.

Bruce


Re: Owner setting for files

 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 08:27 PM, Susan B wrote:
group owners can only move or delete their own files
Then they're not owners.? An owner can use any function on a group if it's enabled.

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Owner setting for files

 

We¡¯re finding that group owners can only move or delete their own files. We need to be able to do the same for all files. Is there a setting we¡¯ve missed to enable this? We have some files yahoo wouldn¡¯t let us delete and others that members put in the wrong categories.

Thank you.
Susan B


Re: Multiple copies of the same message

 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 09:19 PM, jdgalt wrote:
None of which is the command I need: "Find his Messages."
Click on that member's record, anywhere in the row, to open it. On the User Name row, click "View Profile." When the profile page opens, click "All Messages by this Member."

Or if you already have one of his messages open, click open the "More" hamburger menu at bottom right and select the menu entry with the same name.

Bruce


Re: How to approve "pending" members imported from YG?

 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 06:42 PM, Gina Pera wrote:

But even some people already listed as members are "applying" and I have to approve.

Is it possible that my setting -- to require approval of new members -- is gumming up the works?

They're probably applying from an email address other than the one that got transferred since those automatically became members.? Those people can also sign into their account and change their email address.

Duane
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Re: Multiple copies of the same message

 

You didn't quote the part you MIGHT want:
So, you are looking for more information about the sender of the posts?
If you are the owner or the moderator with permissions, you can go to Admin, Members and see their display name, if set, their email address and subscription option they have chosen, and application date.

If you click in the checkbox beside the name, you can activate the dropdown menu.

In that same list, clicking anywhere on the name, email address, etc. opens a useful menu. Their subscription info, etc. but also several buttons - email delivery, notes, etc.
Activity button has more searches, etc.
If you aren't the group owner or a moderator with the permission to see Members in Admin, you can't do this.

I can see all of your messages, starting from your subscription to GMF at 8:26pm this evening.

Frances
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Re: Multiple copies of the same message

 

So, you are looking for more information about the sender of the posts?
If you are the owner or the moderator with permissions, you can go to Admin, Members and see their display name, if set, their email address and subscription option they have chosen, and application date.

If you click in the checkbox beside the name, you can activate the dropdown menu.

At that point, the only dropdown menu I see is "Actions", which has in it the options
?? Remove
?? Ban
?? Send Message
?? Change Email Delivery
?? Change Moderation

None of which is the command I need: "Find his Messages."


Re: deleting messages

 

You might want to ensure you picked the right option for you about?
Go to Admin, Settings. Scroll down to Message Policies. Out of Space gives you some options.?
Delete old attachments is the option I choose, rather than bounce email.

Also from the Plans and Prices page:

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We send you a warning when you've reached 80% of your storage limit. You can configure your group to either bounce messages when you've reached your storage limit, or to automatically delete old attachments to keep you under the storage limit. Photos and files are never automatically deleted.

Frances
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Re: Identifying Missing Messages after YahooGroups Transfer?

 

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 08:38 PM, Ron wrote:
Is there a way to export Groups.io messages in mbox format so I could 'diff' it against the YahooGroups mbox export and identify the oddities that way?
Yes. In Admin>Settings, click the "Export Group Data" button at the top of the page.

Bruce


Re: deleting messages

 

Win, good news! Messages don't count as part of your allowance.

What Is Counted Towards The Storage Limits For My Group?
?
The following are counted towards the storage limits for your group:
?
Files
Photos
Images in databases
Images in wiki pages
Message attachments
Messages themselves are not counted towards the storage limits, only any attachments.

Source:
/static/pricing#what-is-counted-towards-the-storage-limits-for-my-group

Removing content is tedious. If you view messages as topics, it is faster. But only remove old ones with attachments. If you migrated from YahooGroups, attachments weren't migrated.

See 5. What gets transferred using the Transfer Agent?
?
Groups.io can transfer message archives, properly owned and properly threaded, (without attachments, however), photos, files, links and databases. Calendar entries are not copied at this time. Subscribers (members) are also transferred, maintaining their subscription options and ownership of each message and other group content.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups

Frances
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