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Re: Identifying Missing Messages after YahooGroups Transfer?
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 08:38 PM, Ron wrote:
Is there a way to export Groups.io messages in mbox format so I could 'diff' it against the YahooGroups mbox export and identify the oddities that way?Yes. In Admin>Settings, click the "Export Group Data" button at the top of the page. Bruce |
Re: deleting messages
Win, good news! Messages don't count as part of your allowance.
What Is Counted Towards The Storage Limits For My Group?
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The following are counted towards the storage limits for your group:
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Files
Photos
Images in databases
Images in wiki pages
Message attachments
Messages themselves are not counted towards the storage limits, only any attachments.
-- Source: /static/pricing#what-is-counted-towards-the-storage-limits-for-my-group Removing content is tedious. If you view messages as topics, it is faster. But only remove old ones with attachments. If you migrated from YahooGroups, attachments weren't migrated. See 5. What gets transferred using the Transfer Agent?
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Groups.io can transfer message archives, properly owned and properly threaded, (without attachments, however), photos, files, links and databases. Calendar entries are not copied at this time. Subscribers (members) are also transferred, maintaining their subscription options and ownership of each message and other group content.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups Frances FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers |
Re: GMF is busy busy!
Well, GMF messages went from 638 on Nov 4 to 1025 today, November 7.
All moderated! Frances -- FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers |
deleting messages
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMy group was at 94% of our 1 gig allowance. I have been deleting attachments as per instructions (very tedious), but via group discussion we decided to delete a large number of messages from the early days, thereby getting rid of the message and attachment at the same time. (Will this happen, or will the attachments stay in storage even though the corresponding message is no longer there?) I can¡¯t find any way to jump to the oldest message other than change the date order ¡ is that correct? Can I bulk delete messages, or do I have to open each one, click on More, then click on Delete Message? I want to delete about 2000 messages !! Keeping my fingers crossed, but I¡¯m not optimistic¡ Win |
Re: Multiple copies of the same message
Your original question this evening was:
And then what?
I just received 8 copies of what appear to be the same message. ?I've found the poster in the list of members, but there isn't any "More" menu or other useful controls.
In June 2018, Shal wrote: To look for messages from a specific person find a message from that person and used "All Posts By This Member" in the More menu. Or, find the person in the group's Directory (if available).
So, you are looking for more information about the sender of the posts? If you are the owner or the moderator with permissions, you can go to Admin, Members and see their display name, if set, their email address and subscription option they have chosen, and application date. If you click in the checkbox beside the name, you can activate the dropdown menu. In that same list, clicking anywhere on the name, email address, etc. opens a useful menu. Their subscription info, etc. but also several buttons - email delivery, notes, etc. Activity button has more searches, etc. Check it out. Hope this helps. Frances FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers |
Re: Multiple copies of the same message
I posted this under a question asking how to search for messages by author, because that is what I need to do to find out whether the multiple messages really exist in the database (and if so, I want to delete them) or it was just a hiccup by groups.io's sending system.
That earlier question is here: /g/GroupManagersForum/topic/21944638?p=,,,100,0,0,0::relevance,,%23search,100,2,0,21944638,ct=1&ct=1 The answer given there does not work.? Thus my, "And then what?" |
Re: Multiple copies of the same message
If the problem repeats, somehow your email address is in the group list multiple times. If it doesn't repeat, it's likely that a mail server went down (multiple times) and re-sent the same cache each time it was restarted. Twenty years ago this wasn't uncommon at all. Larry |
Re: Multiple copies of the same message
Open one of the messages in your group homepage.?
There is a "hamburger" menu that allows you edit, view source, lock topic, etc. If this isn't your problem, please ask again. Since you are brand new here, you might find the wiki useful. /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/home And especially?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation Frances -- FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers |
Re: Identifying Missing Messages after YahooGroups Transfer?
In YahooGroups (web interface), the URL of each message ends with the number of that message, and that number is incremental starting with "1" back at the beginning of the group and its first post.
In Groups.io, the upper right corner of the web interface says "1 - 20 of 13074" That is where I am getting my numbers from. Over the 20 years my group has been in existence, it's possible some messages have been deleted.? But 133 seems high.? I am the only one allowed to post, and I am the only owner/moderator.? If any had been deleted, I'd guess less than a dozen, not over 100! Is there a way to export Groups.io messages in mbox format so I could 'diff' it against the YahooGroups mbox export and identify the oddities that way? |
Re: Move messages AFTER group transfer?
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 08:14 PM, Ron wrote:
My question is, can I temporarily turn off the mailing out of messages from my Groups.io group, so subscribers don't see the same messages again?? And then once the missing messages are in, turn it back on, and proceed like normal?Ron -- Create a hashtag with the "no email" flag set, and add that hashtag to each such message. That will do what you want. Kinda awkward, I admit; but seems better than temporarily changing everyone's message delivery setting and then trying to change them all back. It will also help you find all the affected messages later, if for some reason things don't go as expected. Bruce |
Re: Move messages AFTER group transfer?
Not directly.? You'd have to forward or copy each one as an email from you, so much of the 'envelope' would be lost.I would like to do this.? I've got an announcement-only group. I am the only one allowed to post, and therefore have all of the original messages in my Sent mail folder on my computer that I can just forward in to Groups.io. My question is, can I temporarily turn off the mailing out of messages from my Groups.io group, so subscribers don't see the same messages again?? And then once the missing messages are in, turn it back on, and proceed like normal? Thanks. |
Re: Identifying Missing Messages after YahooGroups Transfer?
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 08:07 PM, Ron wrote:
The YahooGroups appeared to have 13207 messages in it at the time of export.? But the Groups.io import only has 13074 messages in it, leaving behind a mysterious 133 messages.Ron -- How did you determine the "expected number?" You cannot count on the message number of the highest message to be the same as the total messages present. I suspect these 133 messages were deleted from your Yahoo group before the export ever occurred.? Regards, Bruce |
Identifying Missing Messages after YahooGroups Transfer?
My YahooGroups -> Groups.io transfer completed today (woooo!)? See below for the progress I experienced.
The YahooGroups appeared to have 13207 messages in it at the time of export.? But the Groups.io import only has 13074 messages in it, leaving behind a mysterious 133 messages. Is there any way to identify what messages got missed, and why? Thanks. I think my export from Yahoo happened overnight (Sat26 into Sunday27). 10/27: Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 527 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Step 3 of 4] 11/05 (early): Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 302 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Stage 3 of 4]
11/05 (late): Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about?218?groups ahead of it in the queue. [Stage 3 of 4] 11/07 (early): Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 2 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Stage 3 of 4] |
Re: Deleting old links from the Databases section of an imported Yahoo Group
#database
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 08:06 PM, J. Willardston Smith wrote:
No. |
Re: Deleting old links from the Databases section of an imported Yahoo Group
#database
Bruce, thank you for your fast reply.? Now I know how to edit and delete individual tables. Our imported Yahoo Group folders of links form 19 tables of links in our new Groups.io home. Is there a way to delete all 19 tables simultaneously? Or must one delete each table one-at-a-time? There doesn't seem to be an option to delete all tables simultaneously in the upper-left of the Databases screen.? (I tried unsuccessfully to insert an image of the upper screen.? The only two options seem to be +Create Table and +Import Table.? But no option to delete all tables.) |
Re: How to approve "pending" members imported from YG?
Me, again. Still trying to figure it out. The list of members seems complete. But even some people already listed as members are "applying" and I have to approve. Is it possible that my setting -- to require approval of new members -- is gumming up the works? ? tx |
Re: Help with Yahoo group transfer - it appears to be stuck
On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 07:35 PM, Dog Health wrote:
It looks like transfer@... (not ) has accepted the invite but this is the status message and it hasn't changed in days. When I try to resend the invite to [email protected] it gets bumped as Invalid email address. When I try to resend the invite to transfer@... I get Already subscribed. This is the message I get when I click on my existing transfer. I cannot get a bead on where this is at or what I need to do, if anything. Can someone help please??The instructions on the transfer page at?/yahootransfer?say the following: 3. Send an invite?from your Yahoo Group?to? [email protected] ?(bold text in original)Are you trying to invite the transfer agent to your groups.io group? If so, that will not work, and it's no surprise that the status page screenshot shows that no invitation has been received. Hope this helps, Bruce |
Help with Yahoo group transfer - it appears to be stuck
Invite SummaryInvites Processed:?1 Invites Sent:?0
Invite SummaryInvites Processed:?1 Invites Sent:?0
It looks like transfer@... (not ) has accepted the invite but this is the status message and it hasn't changed in days. When I try to resend the invite to [email protected] it gets bumped as Invalid email address. When I try to resend the invite to transfer@... I get Already subscribed. This is the message I get when I click on my existing transfer. I cannot get a bead on where this is at or what I need to do, if anything. Can someone help please?? Easy Yahoo Group Transfer SetupMake sure you have sent an invite to your group for the user? [email protected] . We will send you an email once we've received and accepted an invite. If this message hasn't been updated within 6 hours of you sending your invite, please send another one. This notice will be updated when we have received your invite.Yahoo Group Email Address Groups.io Group? ? ?-? ? ?? ?? ?? ? ? ? ?? ?? ?DogHealth2? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ? ? ?? ?? ?? ?? ? ? ? ?? ?? ? Transfer Members Transfer Messages Transfer Photos Transfer Files Transfer Links Transfer Databases Send a message to your members when the transfer is complete Here is where I set transfer@... as a moderator... Email
Role? ?? ?? ?Member? ?? ?? ?Moderator? ?? ?? ?Owner?? ?? ?Owners have all permissions, while moderators can have specific permissions. Moderator PermissionsApprove Pending Messages Edit Archives Invite Members Create/Delete Hashtags Manage Subgroups Add or Modify Integrations Modify Group Settings Manage Paid Subscriptions/Donations Billing View Member List Approve Pending Members (also allows access to the member list) Ban Members (also allows access to the member list) Set Member Subscription Options (also allows access to the member list) Set Moderator Privileges (also allows access to the member list and allows setting member subscription options) Remove Members (also allows access to the member list) NotificationsEmail when there are messages needing approval. Email when there are members needing approval. Email when a member joins/leaves this group. Email when group storage limits are reached. Email when someone creates or deletes a subgroup. Email when someone reports a message. Owner EmailAll EmailsReceive every message that is sent to [email protected].Subscribers OnlyReceive only messages sent by subscribers.NoneReceive no messages sent to [email protected]. Email DeliveryIndividual MessagesYou will receive each message in an individual email.Full Featured DigestGroup up to 12 messages together as one email instead of being sent individually (rich formatting).Plain DigestGroup up to 12 messages together as one email instead of being sent individually (plain formatting).Daily SummaryA daily summary, delivered in the morning, of the group's messages from the previous day.Special Notices OnlyYou will only receive special notices from the moderators.No EmailYou will receive no emails. SignatureUse Signature For Web Posting Use Signature For Email Posting |