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Re: Yahoo Transfer Question

Nancy Goldman
 

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Can the subgroup be password protected from the main group? ?In other word the main group be the general membership and the sub being the board?

Nancy

Nancy Goldman

On Nov 3, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 10:25 AM, Nancy Goldman wrote:
Would we be charged the $220 twice to convert over to Groups IO?
If you transfer to separate groups, then yes.? If you transfer to a main group and a subgroup, then no.

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Accepting Donations #donations

 

I have a standard group. Can I ask my members for donations to maintain the group?

Norman Berns


Re: Maintaining intended text formatting on 'message footer'

 

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 12:41 PM, Dave D. wrote:
Traditionally I've always put a little ASCII (text) art in the sigs for my groups previously. GIO seems to strip any extra empty spaces out, when you try to do this in the 'message footer' option, thereby ruining the formatting of the art. Anybody have any idea how to possibly prevent that?
Dave -- You can try switching the group settings to Plain Text Only ("Message Formatting" block), but that won't work if the recipient's email client is rendering your work using a proportional font. So I suggest this instead:

Click the "hamburger" menu open at far right to show the Advanced Toolbar, followed by again clicking far right icon to open "Source code" mode.

Having done that, you must use a monospaced font, and inhibit the normal collapse of consecutive whitespace characters in HTML.?So what you will have to do is specify the font using some kind of inline CSS style (style="font: 15px consolas;" or courier or something like that should work) and then wrap the entire section of ACSII art in <pre> </pre> tags to keep it from collapsing.

Be sure to also check "Force HTML emails" and UNcheck "Normalize HTML emails" in your Settings.

If you do all that, I think it will work.

Good luck,
Bruce


Re: Donations - Where is the Money #donations

 

I haven't dried the donation service within Groups.io, but I can tell you two things in answer to your questions:
  1. Stripe is an industry leader, perhaps THE industry leader for accepting credit cards, so it is trustworthy and solid.
  2. Credit card companies generally charge 2.9% or more (up to 3.4% for Amex), plus $0.30 per transaction; that is Stripe's transaction.? I have seen other web providers charge up to 3% more on top of that as their own service fee, which many deem reasonable.? If Groups.io charges only 5% and that has the 2.9% plus $0.30 already built in, then I would say that is very reasonable.? The alternative is that you create your own website and do your own programming to allow it to work in conjunction with Stripe or Square or Paypal or whatever other processor you want to you.? Unless you are bringing in a ton of donations, it probably isn't worth doing your own programming.

Howard


Maintaining intended text formatting on 'message footer'

 

Traditionally I've always put a little ASCII (text) art in the sigs for my groups previously. GIO seems to strip any extra empty spaces out, when you try to do this in the 'message footer' option, thereby ruining the formatting of the art. Anybody have any idea how to possibly prevent that?


Re: Subgroup for Email Only #subgroups #email

 

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 11:58 AM, Derek Milliner wrote:
Slightly awkward I admit, as you'd have to invite members (assuming you make it a restricted group not listed in the parent)...
Members already in the parent group can be Direct Added to a subgroup, regardless of payment plan (Basic, Premium, or Enterprise). They do not have to be invited.

Regards,
Bruce


Re: Subgroup for Email Only #subgroups #email

 

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 10:58 AM, Derek Milliner wrote:
Edit - the invite process would only be needed if you're using a basic rather than premium group.
Actually, you can direct add members from the main group to a subgroup even on the free groups.

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Re: groups.io - language selection

 

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 07:28 AM, Martin Cleaver wrote:
I too was looking for the "language" field in the setup. I can't believe that this platform is solely available in English.
Well, it's only been around for 5 years... ;>)? It started very small and is growing more rapidly than expected with the YG announcement.? There has been discussion on the beta group around having other languages, but it's a complicated procedure.? I expect that it will happen one day because Mark wants this to be a world class email group service.? Hopefully he won't get burnout from the transfer deluge!

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Re: Subgroup for Email Only #subgroups #email

 

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 10:26 AM, Tiffiney Oatman wrote:
Is it possible to create a sub email group only. Meaning I don't want to create a whole entire complete subgroup site, I just want to create a sub email group and put individuals into that email group so that emails can be sent and received to only a subset of members.
Tiffiney -- You can set up a subgroup and disable virtually all of the features there (calendar, files, photos, wiki, databases, etc) in Settings. This might be useful to handle email traffic within a committee or board of directors or other subset of a larger group. Please note, however, that the retention of messages in the message archive of the subgroup cannot be disabled. If you want those to go away you'll have to periodically log in and delete them manually.

Hope this helps,
Bruce


Re: Chat issues with Chrome Web Browser

 

I think the chat feature would be used more, if members knew someone wanted to chat. What about the idea of the chat tab changing color or blinking when the chat room was in use?

Don


Re: Bouncing email address

 

Am 03.11.19 um 17:49 schrieb W9WIS:
It occurs in all the groups I subscribe to
It looks like you have at your mailhoster setup a forward to this old address. This is not a groups.io problem, but some setting at your mail service.


Re: Subgroup for Email Only #subgroups #email

 
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Tiffiney,

I suspect the answer is no - I had a quick look at a couple of options? but no go. Any particular reason you didn't want to set up a subgroup? Slightly awkward I admit, as you'd have to invite members (assuming you make it a restricted group not listed in the parent)...

Edit - the invite process would only be needed if you're using a basic rather than premium group.

Derek


Re: Bouncing email address

 

Further... If I type in that tgi@...?address on all the affected groups I get "tgi@... not subscribed in groups.io"


Re: Bouncing email address

 

Not an owner or moderator. It occurs in all the groups I subscribe to, including this one I just subscribed to minutes ago. The message I sent above bounced with this notation...

10:45am reply to sender/group 5.1.1 smtp; 550 5.1.1 [R2] Recipient tgi@... does not exist here.


Re: Bouncing email address

 

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 10:44 AM, W9WIS wrote:
The bounce notice is an email address not associated currently with my groups.io account. It's an address that I had used years ago.
If this is after a transfer, that address was probably stored in the YG information and got transferred with all the rest.? If you're the group owner (or moderator with permission) you can look in the Member list to find that email address.? If it shows up, you can delete that member entry.

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Re: reply to sender/group

 

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 11:25 AM, Herb Gellis wrote:
Set group policy on emails to "Reply to Sender". Send an email from my Thunderbird client to the group. When I received the message, it had two issues: (1) When I hit Reply in Thunderbird it set up the message to reply to the GROUP, not me the sender (2) The options at the bottom of the message still only had the limited set (View/Reply online, Mute, Group Owner, Unsubscribe), So, as a result I still had no way to reply to sender.
Herb --?The reply-to setting you put in your group affects only the Reply-To: field in the outgoing message header. If your email client fails to honor that convention, then it may instead send your response to the From: address.

You also didn't say whether you receive messages as individual emails or as a digest. It matters.

Many people here use Thunderbird and I'm sure someone will step up and tell you what settings you can change to get it to operate properly.

Regards,
Bruce


Bouncing email address

 

I keep getting bounced email notices, although I seem to get all the messages. The bounce notice is an email address not associated currently with my groups.io account. It's an address that I had used years ago.? Why are emails being sent to this non-existant email address ?? I'd just let the bounce process go on until no email is sent to that address, but it seems like it's assocyaed with my current account and I don't want that account affected ?

Regards,

Mike


Re: Yahoo Transfer Question

 

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 10:25 AM, Nancy Goldman wrote:
Would we be charged the $220 twice to convert over to Groups IO?
If you transfer to separate groups, then yes.? If you transfer to a main group and a subgroup, then no.

Duane
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Re: Transferring Yahoo group after October 28

 

There is no way to export them to MBox format? This will retain pretty much everything as Idid this when goign from mail man to io.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. .
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On 2 Nov 2019, at 19:04, Bruce Bowman wrote:

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On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 09:59 PM, Larry wrote:
I clearly need to have a way to parse these and reformat the output to match groups.io. I was able to extract the email address using a similar technique, but it was far simpler, and I don't know exactly what groups.io needs. Is there a sample at groups.io of what the upload file should look like to import messages.

Larry -- The groups.io interface provides no function that will allow you to import these messages to your group's message archive, all indexed, searchable and attributable to the original posters. Most folks doing a "manual" transfer have been printing old messages to a PDF or converting it to HTML and subsequently uploading the archive to the group's files area. Hopefully others can provide additional options.

Bruce?

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Yahoo Transfer Question

Nancy Goldman
 

My club, GBAEC (Greater Boston Area Earthdog Club) has a Yahoo email for the general membership and one for the board.? Would we be charged the $220 twice to convert over to Groups IO?? We did a test run with you last year and unfortunately, never signed up. Other things seemed more important at the time.? Now of course we are under the gun much like you.
We are a small club with limited funds but we do maintain a website with GoDaddy.? I as President, along with my board, am trying to figure out the best vehicle for our file storage.

Nancy Goldman