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Re: yG Privacy Dashboard download #yahooprivacydashboard #ioimportpl

 

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 04:20 PM, Susan B wrote:


Was the download divided into separate groups? And was each
Group separated into files and messages?
Yes, yes. File descriptions are missing, each file is separate with its own name in its folder (zipped).

We have to manually upload to a group here because there¡¯s an absentee
owner at the yahoo group.
You can upload the mbox file. Members can download the file and use Thunderbird or another mail client to read it and search in it.

We were going to just start forwarding each old message to the message
board here, starting with the oldest. It would be a daunting and very lengthy
task.
There are different types of forwarding. If "From" in a forward is of the person doing the forwarding then every message will be from that member. If "From" is preserved but that email address isn't currently subscribed to the .io group then the message will be moderated (assuming that "Allow Non Subscribers to Post" is checked in group settings) and thus out of order.

I'm thinking to write a program (in Perl language) to read a mbox and email each message to groups.io (direct-to-MX, requires your IP-address to have RDNS) in order. The program should be able to handle timeouts, temporary rejections (4xx) and use optional list of pairs: email address in yG archive -> current email address of that person subscribed to the .io group. Also an option to take list of email addresses of all current members, if "From" of a message in the mbox is not in the list then change "From" to some fixed address (like owner's) in order to avoid moderation.

I'm sure that somebody here will be able to describe step-by-step how to run a program in Perl under Windows using ActivePerl or something similar.
Re: message from Owner but with personal name

 

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 08:20 AM, Victoria wrote:
There is an inconsistency as far as sending a message by the owner address is concerned which you can choose in the "From"-field. When at the bottom of the message the personal name of the sender appears.
Your name will only appear at the bottom if you've set up a signature to be used and then only in some situations.? I may be misunderstanding though, so a screenshot could be helpful.

Duane
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Re: #transfer - can we transfer a second time if we have second thoughts about a category omitted in the first transfer? #transfer

 

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 08:19 AM, Bill Patterson wrote:
If I wanted to, though, could I (before the December 1 deadline) submit a second transfer request with just the "members" box checked?
You could, but there are at least 2 problems.? Anyone that's already a member of the new group wouldn't be transferred.? Their current information wouldn't be updated to link to the information from YG.? What many groups do is transfer everything.? Then those members that don't care to still be in the group can use the link in the email they receive to remove themselves.? You can change (and Update) your request if the transfer hasn't started yet.

Duane
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Re: yG Privacy Dashboard download #yahooprivacydashboard #ioimportpl

 

Lena
I just requested a download of my information from yahoo. You said you received all messages and files from groups you belong to. I read up on what mbox format is. Is this something you think I can upload to a group here? We want to put all our old posts, which contain very valuable information, into our new group here either on the message board or in the files. Message board is preferred. We were going to just start forwarding each old message to the message board here, starting with the oldest. It would be a daunting and very lengthy task.

Susan B

On Oct 26, 2019, at 2:53 AM, Lena <Lena@...> wrote:

The banner on yahooGroups pages links to


There I clicked "How can I keep my Yahoo Groups content?", got:
"Photos and files can be saved right from the Yahoo Groups site,
or you can download your data from the Privacy Dashboard"


On October 16 I clicked "Visit the Privacy Dashboard page", yahoo!, Groups,
the three blue dots to the right near the top,
the link to , "Email the code",
entered the code, Download.

Today (Oct 26) I got an email and downloaded a 1.4 GB file.
It contained Messages and Files from all groups I'm a member of, but no Photos.
Not only my messages, but all messages, including full email addresses,
in mbox format. Incliding GMF (76 MB zipped), YGOG, LH.
And all Files and Links.

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Re: yG Privacy Dashboard download #yahooprivacydashboard #ioimportpl

 

Lena
Was the download divided into separate groups? And was each
Group separated into files and messages?

We have to manually upload to a group here because there¡¯s an absentee owner at the yahoo group.

Depending on how this download is put together it could be a huge help to this group here.

Thank you
Susan B

On Oct 26, 2019, at 2:53 AM, Lena <Lena@...> wrote:

The banner on yahooGroups pages links to


There I clicked "How can I keep my Yahoo Groups content?", got:
"Photos and files can be saved right from the Yahoo Groups site,
or you can download your data from the Privacy Dashboard"


On October 16 I clicked "Visit the Privacy Dashboard page", yahoo!, Groups,
the three blue dots to the right near the top,
the link to , "Email the code",
entered the code, Download.

Today (Oct 26) I got an email and downloaded a 1.4 GB file.
It contained Messages and Files from all groups I'm a member of, but no Photos.
Not only my messages, but all messages, including full email addresses,
in mbox format. Incliding GMF (76 MB zipped), YGOG, LH.
And all Files and Links.

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Lena
message from Owner but with personal name

 

Hi,

I know the multiple transfer problems are predominant at the moment and I don?t want to ask this in beta,. Maybe this has been discussed there already.

There is an inconsistency as far as sending a message by the owner address is concerned which you can choose in the "From"-field. When at the bottom of the message the personal name of the sender appears.

So to the members such a message isn?t really sent in the name of all owners and moderators but by the person whose name appears at the bottom of the message. To me this doesn?t really make sense.

Victoria
#transfer - can we transfer a second time if we have second thoughts about a category omitted in the first transfer? #transfer

 

I requested a transfer, but didn't check the box for members because our current YG membership includes an unknown number of people who are no longer active members but don't know how to unsubscribe.? For now I am relying on active members to tell me that they want to join, by requesting an invitation.?

If I wanted to, though, could I (before the December 1 deadline) submit a second transfer request with just the "members" box checked?? We only have 328 members.

Thanks

Bill
Re: Is there a uitlity/test/browse/practice group?

Sandi D.
 

I did something similar. I encouraged members in my YGs to create an IO login and look around. Many found IO groups that were of interest to them and joined them. That is really ideal as existing, active IO groups give new IO registrants a richer experience.?
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Re: yG Privacy Dashboard download #yahooprivacydashboard #ioimportpl

 

But when I logged in and got to the download page:

Your Yahoo Groups data

Your download request has been completed, but no data of this type is available in your account.

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Re: [email protected] isn't a member of my Yahoo group

Edward Borg
 

Well I went ahead and deleted the transfer request, started a new one and sent a new invite.
I hope this works this time.
Re: No longer moderator or owner #addmembers

 

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 09:49 AM, <kb4wyr@...> wrote:
What can I do to get this corrected?
A bit more information please...

  • When you say you created a Group was this in relation to a planned migration from a Yahoo group or was it done just to create a new group?
  • Were you already a Groups.io Account holder or did you set up an account as part of setting up a new group?
  • Was the email address you used as the one to set up the new group the same as that to which you inadvertently sent an invitation?
  • What "evidence" is there that you are no longer the owner of the new group?
  • Before sending out the invitations to join had any other person joined (for example at your request) and been made a moderator or co - owner?
It may be that there is nothing you can do directly to remedy the situation; the only indirect route will be to email [email protected] to explain the situation and ask if someone there can make the necessary changes to restore your ownership.?

Chris
Re: PG Offline users #pgoffline

 

Jim

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I am having that exact issue myself in not being able to log in on Yahoo.

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I also hope he gets it fixed as I have about 30 groups I want to update so I have it all in my databases.

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Jim

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Recently saw this sign in a store. ¡°Stressed is Desserts spelled backwards.¡±

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Pruitt via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 1:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] PG Offline users

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Hello Duane.

That would be a great feature.? I am also working with Wilson on another issue.? I downloaded his latest PGO but it refuses to log me into Yahoo groups to even see my group.? This is despite the fact that I use Waterfox (Firefox 56) as well as Firefox (v70.0).? The problem appears to be that despite not getting the Yahoo oath message (I refuse to accept their oath so when browser presents it I say do it later which will be the sixth Tuesday of never) in the browswer PGO must be getting it.? So Wilson or his new programmer will be working on a method where PGO opens the browswer if a problem occurs (like the oath pop up) so it can be cleared and then go back to PGO.? I just hope this happens before Yahoo groups deletes everything!? At this point I can't even use PGO.? Wilson did offer to grab my groups but that is a lot of data and I would prefer to do it myself.? I have not had any luck getting Python to run on my Windows 7 box and the other 2 or 3 Github utilities seem to be Python scripts and all have said they do not work that well anyway so PGO seems to be the only game in town at this point.

Thank you.

Jim Pruitt
Re: Erroneous "help" info (?)

 

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:39 AM, Rich Janis wrote:
Is the Help info wrong, or is my group not configured properly?
Neither as far as I can see!

Firstly set up an "Invite" message in Admin > Settings > Member Notices. It is one of the options under Notice Type.

Then go to Admin > Invite. There is a (fixed) template Invitation To Be Sent as the first item on that page, followed by Customize Message. At the bottom of that section (above Emails) is a box called --Notices-- with a drop - down arrow at its right hand end. Use that drop down to add the Invite Message that you composed initially. Note that you can set up more than one Invite Message, and when you use the drop down you can pick whichever invite message is the most appropriate.

Hope that helps...

Chris
Re: Erroneous "help" info (?)

 

On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 05:39 AM, Rich Janis wrote:
Is the Help info wrong, or is my group not configured properly?
The Help page is a bit behind.? This was changed not too long ago.? For type Invite, you can set up as many as you'd like, or none.? If you have at least one, it will be in the Notices box on the Invite page in the Customize Message area and you can choose to insert it into the standard invitation.? If you have several, you can choose which one of them to use.

Duane
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Erroneous "help" info (?)

 

According to the Help page, an "Invite"-type of?Member Notice can be "activated". Unlike the "Welcome" and "Pending Subscription"?notices, though, there is no "Active Message" option for my custom "Invite" notice. Apparently, all I can use it for is a place to store text to then copy and paste into an invitation screen.

Is the Help info wrong, or is my group not configured properly?

Thank you,
-rich
Re: yG Privacy Dashboard download #yahooprivacydashboard #ioimportpl

 

I made the same request around that time and received a download link today.
yG Privacy Dashboard download #yahooprivacydashboard #ioimportpl

 

The banner on yahooGroups pages links to


There I clicked "How can I keep my Yahoo Groups content?", got:
"Photos and files can be saved right from the Yahoo Groups site,
or you can download your data from the Privacy Dashboard"


On October 16 I clicked "Visit the Privacy Dashboard page", yahoo!, Groups,
the three blue dots to the right near the top,
the link to , "Email the code",
entered the code, Download.

Today (Oct 26) I got an email and downloaded a 1.4 GB file.
It contained Messages and Files from all groups I'm a member of, but no Photos.
Not only my messages, but all messages, including full email addresses,
in mbox format. Incliding GMF (76 MB zipped), YGOG, LH.
And all Files and Links.

--
Lena
No longer moderator or owner #addmembers

 

I think I created this problem, here are the steps I took.

1.? I created a group.
2.? I uploaded a list of members to invite.? I failed to remove my email address from that list.
3.? I was sent an invitation to the group.?
4.? I clicked on the link to accept the invitation on the website.
5.? I am no longer Owner of the group.

What can I do to get this corrected?
Re: Importing CSV Database files

 

Linda,
That was innovative idea about importing a database. It gives me something to work with. Thank you for taking the time to help me with this.
Sincere Regards,
Jim Martin

On Fri, Oct 25, 2019, 11:58 AM Linda Lawrie <lklawrie@...> wrote:
I'd suggest creating a Database on and then exporting it to a json file.? then, you could maybe use that as your template?? Possible that creating the database that way -- and then you could import the data in csv.
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Back when transfer was free, imported our databases.? I was then able to use that guidance to create json templates.
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So, not sure that will help but may let you see certain characteristics of each cell.
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Linda

[Mod Note: The current, paid transfer also imports databases. See?/yahootransfer, "What We Transfer"]
Re: Transfer steps

 

OK thank you Shal. It makes sense. Yes all my other settings are fine. People are working out the kinks on their end but are finding it very easy to change their subscriptions.?
I'll work on my patience.? LOL
Thank you again!

Susan
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