Re: accidentally changed domain name?
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On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 04:45 PM, Edward Borg wrote:
Only one transfer and it hasn't started because I can't make ([email protected]) a moderator.
Are you sure you have permission (if you're not the group owner) on Yahoo to change the settings?? If the invitation has been accepted to the YG, it will be a member and will show up in the activity log there.? Since you're saying it's not in the log, something is missing from your story. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Thanks Mark, I'll give that a try tomorrow, it getting close to dinner time here in Florida. I only installed the app today, so am on a learning curve. Thank goodness this forum with expert members is here.
Peter.
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You can download all the member's email address's, options etc etc and save it in a data base that can be played with and such.? If you have a free account with groups.io this is the way to move members over real easy.? Just cut and past the information into your members invite panel and bulk send out.? The only thing that you can not do is move over the message data base.? The pictures and files you can yourself.? However the groups.io file and folder panel is rather primitive and not very fast when you have say 2,000 pics to move which I have to do on some accounts.
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The messages are on your machine and automatically saved in a database.? Look for this file:
C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\PG Offline 4\ygroups.db3
where <username> is the username you are logged into your Windows system with.
I didn't understand this at first, and exported the messages to an SQL file.? Totally unnecessary.? You can quit PG Offline, and when you restart it, it will re-open the database.? Select the group name in the left pane, then hit the refresh button and you'll see all your messages.
Edit: A simpler way to get to the data folder is select Open Data Folder in the File menu.? I then copied that db3 file off to Dropbox to share with another person who had PG Offline.? File/Open can be used to access the file.
It's a great little product.
Mark
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Messages can be EXPORTED in 4 different file formats.? But you will have to pay the $25 license fee since it is a trial version you down load and install.? You can off load files, folders and links to your computer from the program but are limited to I recall 1,000 messages in the trial version.? Must pay the $25 which when you look at it is a really good deal, considering.
As long as the files were downloaded to your computer, the files are embedded in the program.? Turn computer on or off makes no difference.? Just go back to the program and the files are still there to be accessed by the program.
I had to do the learning curve myself and down loaded 7 YG several times to make sure I did it right.
No I am not related to PGO, just using it.
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Correct and if YG members are still posting there, you can log in with PGO and it will amend your existing download and and the newest messages to it.? Same with any other files you can download, they will get amended with the latest added to what you already have downloaded.? But that is what is on YOUR computer.? If Groups.io has already downloaded a mirror of your site site and YG members add more posts or what not afterwards, those additional are only on YG.? Any corrections are up to you to fix.? Come the 28th that will no longer be an issue since YG locks out any further information being added to your YG site.
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One other issue I found with YG and PGO, I was unable to get Windows 7 64 bit to run PGO smooth enough to spend nearly 40 hours online downloading all the YG sites.? It kept hanging and locking up, same on several Windows 7 computers.? So I programmed a HP laptop in Windows 10 and used the internal 10 browser, it down loaded smoothly.? Just remember to turn off the sleep mode and power down mode.?
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In my experience the messages were COPIED from the group and are still accessible at the old site.
On 10/25/19 5:50 PM, pbrixey wrote:
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Today, using PB Offline I downloaded 50,000+ messages, but cannot find a way to save them to my hard drive. I still have the app open, I did not want to close it in case all the messages
disappeared.
Any suggestions and help would be very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance Peter B.
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On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 04:55 PM, Diane wrote:
I paid on Oct 18th and haven¡¯t heard anything yet, if that helps.
Diane -- What else have you done? Simply paying will not get your group transferred. Bruce
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As of this date, using PGO, if you want to download everything from YG you will have to accept the )(*& oath click.? It took me 2 days of trying to get around it and as soon as I took the Devil's click I could go in and down load 7 different groups.? OK with me because come the 1st of January I am deleting all yahoo accounts and the Devil's oath.? I could access YG using PGO but it is YG that is blocking the downloads, not PGO.? That is YG is blocking access using a download program since they know what is going on now.? Just to log into YG and manage accounts on line, I have been delaying the Devil's oath since it first started and I have had to manage the YG accounts daily since 2001.
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Today, using PB Offline I downloaded 50,000+ messages, but cannot find a way to save them to my hard drive. I still have the app open, I did not want to close it in case all the messages disappeared.
Any suggestions and help would be very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance Peter B.
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Re: accidentally changed domain name?
The subgroup actually shows up. The main group does not. I changed the email from main@aah-announce?to aah-announce@aah?. That aah domain name does not exist and the group doesn't show up now. -Betsy
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Only one transfer and it hasn't started because I can't make ([email protected]) a moderator.
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I think the question is (at least for me) - how soon before we get the notification to give the go-ahead? That¡¯s for when io accepts the member request at Yahoo right?
Diane
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Re: Features & Setup Questions
Art, it might be easier to answer just subgroup questions here. Your other questions have been talked about recently, except for the lock on Yahoo account and when will Yahoo actually delete files. You might try? /g/IHateYahooGroups/topicsAs far as subgroups are concerned, have you looked at the wiki? /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroupand /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/SubgroupsYou asked:
Do I need to create subgroups with identical names or will the transfer automatically create subgroup?
Are subgroup memberships automatically transferred or do they have to be confirmed?--?
After the bulk transfer, can the subgroup names be changed?
Are features such as Wikis and Databases on a subgroup or parent group basis?
? ?Are they limited to one per group/subgroup or can multiple such objects be created?
? ?Are they globally accessible or only from and within the associated subgroup?
Are settings unique and independent for each subgroup?
Conceptually, are subgroups unique and independent groups except for the parent group requirement?
Can I define an identifying string for each subgroup to prepend to a post's subject?
? ?For example [xyz-abc], [xyz-def], [xyz-ghi] for three different subgroups?
? ?If so, do the strings have to match the subgroup names?
I can tell you that the features - wiki, databases, files - are separate in the main group and subgroup.?
The settings between parent group and subgroup appear to be separate.
You can choose whether parent group members can see subgroup files, etc.
Probably someone else will tackle this!
Frances
FAQ on Moving from YahooGroupsGMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers
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There is a little bit in this guide to group formation: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation
And you might consider a Group Guidelines notice.
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The Group Guidelines notice is a unique type that provides a convenient and versatile way to communicate and maintain the group¡¯s posting and conduct guidelines, if any. It has the following features and options:
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- can be sent automatically on the first of each month as a message to the group, with an option to include members subscribed via Special Notices Only
- As each new month is issued, the old one can be automatically deleted from the group (so there aren't several versions there) if you set the #Guidelines hashtag to one month duration. ?You can also set the hashtag to Locked, further down the page on the hashtag definition so that no one can reply to it. ?If the hashtag doesn't exist, it will be created the first time they get sent or you can create it ahead of time to adjust settings.
- can be sent automatically to all new group members
- can be sent manually by a moderator to a group member at any time, in case the member needs a review of the guidelines
- appears under its own "Guidelines" tab at left on the group¡¯s pages, with an option to be visible either by group members only or by the public
- For more information, see the Help pages.?/static/help#membernotices
The other page on the wiki has examples -?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Group-Rules
Frances -- FAQ on Moving from YahooGroupsGMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers
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I actually meant in the GMF Wiki. There is a link on the main page for "Member Notices", but the linked document doesn't say anything about Group Guidelines.
Thanks,
Su
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Is there a uitlity/test/browse/practice group?
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Hello Folks,
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We will be initiating our groups' transfers soon, and in
the meantime I want to nudge the users to go ahead and create their GIO account,
and also browse around using the?browser interface, join a group and get
some experience using the web interface.? Obviously I don't want them to
join our relocated groups yet, first because they are currently empty, plus I
don't want folks getting in and start sending messages, uploading files, etc,
not anyway until the transfer takes place and is done.
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I also don't want to tell them they can join
this group for a bit so they can practice navigation
and the like and get a feel how the web interface works, this is a forum for us
obviously.? So is there like some "uitlity/test/browse/practice" public
group that anyone can join so they can browse around?? It can be a
read-only group?if there is one like that, they don't have to post messages
right now.
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And before someone suggests it, yes, I can create a
basic test group for our group and after it is setup I can point them there, but
then I would have to spend the time to "populate" that group with at least a
screenful of topics (to give them the opportunity to scroll), then reply to some
of those?topics to create threads, upload some files, photos, etc, etc,
which can take quite some time, which I'm trying to avoid!
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Cheers,
Christos
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Features & Setup Questions
Questions, questions, questions! Yahoo set off a Tsunami. Hopefully, these won't be too much. to get answered
I just created a parent group and plan on migrating ~seven subgroups from Yahoo. There are about 8000 member entries but, excluding overlap, only about 3000 unique members, 75,000 messages and 20MB in about 130 files - no photos, attachments or databases.
Transfer
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Do I need to create subgroups with identical names or will the transfer automatically create subgroups?
Are subgroup memberships automatically transferred or do they have to be confirmed?
After the bulk transfer, can late poster and straggler info be transferred?
About how long will the actual transfer take? From request to initiation?
Does anyone know if we can put a lock on the Yahoo message boards after the transfer?
Does anyone happen to know if Yahoo will be deleting their message archives on Oct 28 or the Dec date?
After the bulk transfer, can the subgroup names be changed?
Features
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Are features such as Wikis and Databases on a subgroup or parent group basis?
Are they limited to one per group/subgroup or can multiple such objects be created?
Are they globally accessible or only from and within the associated subgroup?
Are settings unique and independent for each subgroup?
Conceptually, are subgroups unique and independent groups except for the parent group requirement?
Can I define an identifying string for each subgroup to prepend to a post's subject?
For example [xyz-abc], [xyz-def], [xyz-ghi] for three different subgroups?
If so, do the strings have to match the subgroup names?
Thank you for your assistance.
Namaste', Art
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Duane
Bruce
Frances