Re: Transfer status of Yahoo members?
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Any plans to add relational database functionality, or is it already present and I'm missing it?
Use case example. We host a yearly gaming event where people like to mark what games they'd like to play so they can self-organize.? Ideally, this includes the following tables:
1) Games
2) Players
3) Want to Play (a join table, noting each instance of? ?Player + Game they want to play)
We can accomplish this with a "flat" table of games and a column of "Players" where people can add their names/initials, but that's prone to errors (people accidentally erasing previous players, etc.)
Also open to hearing of other options to address this.? Thank you!
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Re: reading exported Groups.io group data
Thanks, Bill.
I will try this in the next couple of days.
Much appreciated.
Isis
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Re: member reimbursements
I (for my group) and other groups I'm joined with have just solicited paypal payments.
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 8:23 AM Jeff < jeff@...> wrote: Good morning Our group, [email protected] is made up of members living in Europe and North America, for the most part. We will be upgrading to the premium level. Those funds will be provided by one of our owners. We would like to set up a mechanism for reimbursing him by our members. What is the best way to do that? Thanks Jeff Sully ? ? ?
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Re: Subscribing by email failing for one user
Thanks Chris.
I have confirmed with the member involved that he is using Microsoft Office Outlook as his email client.
Mark
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On 25 October 2019 13:18:44 BST, "Chris Jones via Groups.Io" <chrisjones12@...> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 08:06 PM, I wrote:
This was reported to BT a few weeks ago but AFAIK there has been no resolution to it yet.
I have just confirmed that the above remains the case. I have contacted the person who reported the problem to BT but he has heard nothing more either directly or via a backdoor route. To be best of my understanding the problem is one that might spark a bit of interest from Ofcom (for non - UK readers Ofcom is the "media" regulator) if only because BT has failed to report back to the originator even though he has a log number for his report.
I carried out a quick test this morning and can confirm that the misrouting is still happening.
Chris
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Re: Can not get transfer request to show up in the "In Process" list
ok, Thanks Duane, I didn't skip any step, did you really think a person that finds issues with one of this groups help page (miss placed period) is the sort of person to skip a step? Can you tell me the best location to report problems with your account, is it the bug reporting link support@..., or should I use the beta group? I think I know why everything went south and is in limbo land but I think I need something in my account reset. Darci
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another question regarding transfer
I am not tec stupid, but ..
I have made IOtransfer a moderator.
The next step in the instructions says:
After you have made the [email protected] member a moderator, return here, select your Existing Transfer transfer, and tell us that you are ready for the transfer to happen. Your group must be signed up for the Premium Yearly plan. ?(which I did pay for)
in the green box at the top, it says: The transfer process has been updated.
Is that it?
Trying hard to not bother all the wonderful answer people, but ¡.
With thanks
Rhoda Ezell
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On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 04:49 AM, Bill Burns wrote:
read Mark's own account of groups.io, which has been live for just over
five years now:
Wow!? Shows how the memory plays tricks.? My group started on ONElist in May1999 and I would have sworn blind that we were on that for at least year before it merged with eGroups, and then a year or more before the Yahoo takeover!? I'm sure time went slower back then than it does now! I'm sad to say that the group that was actually my intoduction to ONElist doesn't seem to be making the move to Io. Penny
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Good morning Our group, [email protected] is made up of members living in Europe and North America, for the most part. We will be upgrading to the premium level. Those funds will be provided by one of our owners. We would like to set up a mechanism for reimbursing him by our members. What is the best way to do that? Thanks Jeff Sully ? ? ?
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Re: Subscribing by email failing for one user
On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 08:06 PM, I wrote:
This was reported to BT a few weeks ago but AFAIK there has been no resolution to it yet.
I have just confirmed that the above remains the case. I have contacted the person who reported the problem to BT but he has heard nothing more either directly or via a backdoor route. To be best of my understanding the problem is one that might spark a bit of interest from Ofcom (for non - UK readers Ofcom is the "media" regulator) if only because BT has failed to report back to the originator even though he has a log number for his report. I carried out a quick test this morning and can confirm that the misrouting is still happening. Chris
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Re: Odd situation - Yahoo says transfer@ has accepted, status doesn't
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On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 02:43 AM, Su wrote:
I got emails from Yahoo saying that [email protected] had accepted invitations to both groups that I am getting transferred.
Yahoo has no way of knowing that a transfer is going on. Are you sure this didn't come from groups.io?
But I have NOT yet received an email from Groups.io, nor does the transfer status indicate that it has been accepted. (i.e. it still reads "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite.")
You should continue to wait until this status changes. Due to the way transfers are being managed now, it seems there may be some delay after groups.io accepts the invitation and your transfer advances to the next step of the process.
Is it OK to go ahead and promote the user to Moderator on the Yahoo groups?
Yes...but don't click the "Give Go Ahead to Transfer" button until the status changes (not sure that you can, anyway).
Are any particular mod permissions needed?
No.? Hope this helps, Bruce
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Re: Odd situation - Yahoo says transfer@ has accepted, status doesn't
#transfer
On 25/10/2019 5:38 pm, Su wrote:
What does this mean? I got emails from Yahoo saying that [email protected] had accepted invitations to both groups that I am getting transferred. But I have NOT yet received an email from Groups.io, nor does the transfer status indicate that it has been accepted. (i.e. it still reads "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite.")
Is it OK to go ahead and promote the user to Moderator on the Yahoo groups? Are any particular mod permissions needed?
Thanks,
Su
Although the step-by-step implies it's meant to be fairly instantaneous between making the agent a mod and getting the option to progress, it seems to take half a day before the system generates the email prompting you to decide to authorise the transfer.
[Mod Note: This reflects recent changes to the way in which transfers are queued. It remains advisable to refrain from attempting to give the transfer the "go ahead" until you receive the email.]
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Go to Admin the billing, look for the options.?
I did the same thing. Just a note, I signed up under the old monthly pricing last week, and when I went to change to Yearly the only option was the new pricing. I went ahead and did that, and then got a note later saying I would only be charged the old plan price of $110, on the next billing cycle.?
Your results may vary
God luck Kent
Yes, it's my own fault.? I signed up for the one month plan and then found I needed to sign up for the 1 year plan in order to do the transfer from my Yahoo group.? How do I change that?
Cecelia Mercer
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Re: Subscribing by email failing for one user
Mark, Yes, it says whether they accepted the invite by web or email, but not
whether an email client or webmail was used, I think? In principle it could find out by tracing the Received fields in the message header, but I can't imagine implementing that check just to identify this edge case. Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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Su, I think it should be somewhere else - at least mentioned in the
Member Notices page, but not sure what the protocol is for that. Post it as a suggestion in beta. But perhaps wait a few weeks first: Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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Re: Subscribing by email failing for one user
Hi Chris
Yes, it says whether they accepted the invite by web or email, but
not whether an email client or webmail was used, I think?
I did an experiment and emailed to the
[email protected] address
from my email client (Thunderbird through 1and1 POP3) and it did
accept his invitation for him.? Not that secure really, but at
least he is now subscribed!
Mark
On 24/10/2019 22:55, Chris Jones via Groups.Io wrote:
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On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 10:26 PM, Mark Cubitt wrote:
I can maybe ask some of them how they applied too.
Your Activity Log should tell you that!
Chris
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Re: Subscribing by email failing for one user
Hi Yes, the activity log says whether an invite accepted by web or email, but I don't think I can tell whether it was sent by an email client (POP or IMAP) or via webmail? Further extract below for the user I mentioned in initial post in this thread.? The email they sent was to: [email protected],?but the final recipient in the returned email was : Final-Recipient: RFC822; <[email protected]>Mark details.txt
Reporting-MTA: dns; re-prd-fep-046.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net
Arrival-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 07:19:12 +0100
Received-From-MTA: dns; re-prd-rgout-001.btmx-prd.synchronoss.net (10.2.54.4)
Final-Recipient: RFC822; <[email protected]>
Action: failed
Status: 5.3.0
Remote-MTA: dns; lb02.groups.io (173.255.221.194)
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 510 5.1.1 Your email address, xxx@..., is not subscribed to that group. To subscribe, send an email to [email protected], or visit /g/scottishmoths
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Re: Odd situation - Yahoo says transfer@ has accepted, status doesn't
#transfer
Yes this happened to me too.? The actual events and emails from Groups.io seemed to be slightly out of synch.? But the emails did catch up after 12 hours or so.
My understanding (and from the email you did not get yet) is that you can uncheck all the boxes on the moderator permissions.? It just needs to be moderator with no detailed permissions.
On Friday, October 25, 2019, 02:43:11 AM EDT, Su <randsjmj@...> wrote:
What does this mean? I got emails from Yahoo saying that [email protected] had accepted invitations to both groups that I am getting transferred. But I have NOT yet received an email from Groups.io, nor does the transfer status indicate that it has been accepted. (i.e. it still reads "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite.") Is it OK to go ahead and promote the user to Moderator on the Yahoo groups? Are any particular mod permissions needed? Thanks, Su
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Re: Odd situation - Yahoo says transfer@ has accepted, status doesn't
#transfer
And is it OK to start both transfers (to different subgroups) at the same time? I didn't see that thing about one group at a time until just a few minutes ago. :-(
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Thanks. I added the extra info to the Quick Start document that Duane linked. I think it should be somewhere else - at least mentioned in the Member Notices page, but not sure what the protocol is for that.
Su
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